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message 101: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I agree


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Tbh for me it depends how they die. Like if it’s meaningful? Then yes, give us that. But half the time characters are killed in such ways that are dumb that of Cassie killed one of them on that way I would be mad.
But either way, am I the only one who doesn’t care for Mina that much? I mean she legit has no interesting thing about her besides who her parents are. Like there are tons of young kids with actual personalities that don’t get hype just bc they don’t have Tessa and Jem as parents and it’s lowkey annoying


message 103: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Yeah but she’s a baby so we don’t know much about her yet


message 104: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Ummmm I think you're clearly forgetting that Mina is a baby........😂
Of course she wouldn't have anything interesting yet since she's literally just been born. What personalities/special abilities are you expecting a baby to have xD???


message 105: by May (new)

May (theladymidnight) Yeah, she still has time to grow and develop some unique traits :)


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Lmao duh, that’s what I’m saying- she’s a baby and super hyped up which makes zero sense bc she has zero personality yet


message 107: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
☀︎El In Oz☀︎ wrote: "Lmao duh, that’s what I’m saying- she’s a baby and super hyped up which makes zero sense bc she has zero personality yet"

Ohhh okay
I personally feel like she isn't hyped up that much, I honestly don't care much about her (dont kill me!), because I never really shipped Jem and Tessa.


Queen Jenna the III (queenjennatheiii) | 51 comments Truthfully, I would rather Magnus die than Tessa, because she is just the best. Also, Alec was never exactly my fave character, so I wouldn't mind. It would kill me for Max and Rafe to be left parentless, though. I love them so much. For the book series, though, it would be easier if Tessa died. Magnus is always there to help, while Tessa isn't exactly the biggest role. But I would never say that Tessa should die.

Also, when Cassie said that she didn't say one of the TMI 6 would die, but also didn't say they would all live . . . well, technically, didn't Clary already die? That confirms her statement without killing anyone we actually love. She didn't specify which world, did she?

Finally, I don't care Mina is hyped up, *SPOILER* Livvy legit tried to take away her personality and soul. I mean, now Mina has her own personality, so I'm super hyped to see who she turns out to be. Also, with Kit as her sort-of brother, SOOOO many things could happen. TWP will give us answers, but I also hope it never comes, because then Shadowhunters will end. NOOOOOOO.

Although it would make me happy if Will, Jem, and Tessa got back together.


message 109: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I want a reunion so badly for the herongraystairs


message 110: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Right?! Will would be so happy... my heart would really be destroyed in the best way if that happened


Queen Jenna the III (queenjennatheiii) | 51 comments I mean yeah . . . I guess so. I would be sobbing while smiling. As long as Will is happy. . .


message 112: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Queen Jenna the III wrote: "I mean yeah . . . I guess so. I would be sobbing while smiling. As long as Will is happy. . ."

Yep


message 113: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I'm not saying Tessa should die, but I would sacrifice my favorite literary character for the happiness and well-being of my OTP, second favorite literary character, and cutest literary family


message 114: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
In a perfect world, no one would die, and we all will go to sleep happy. Sadly, Cassie would never do that...


message 115: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Being the final series installment, Cassie has plans for all the characters who are still around to face the greatest threat they've ever faced, and the characters from different generations of the Shadowhunter Chronicles will have to unite and join forces in the biggest battle they'll ever have to take it down, and that something will happen that will change the nature of Shadowhunters and what they mean. She has also stated that "It will bring the Shadowhunter Chronicles to an end. The Shadowhunter world will change forever.

Reading this gave me goosebumps


message 116: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
This series will be loosely related to TLH


message 117: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I think it'll have a Jesse dynamic, maybe?


message 118: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Tessa HC (onceuponabookworm) wrote: "Being the final series installment, Cassie has plans for all the characters who are still around to face the greatest threat they've ever faced, and the characters from different generations of the..."

Omgg you're right😰 Reading that makes me so scared😫


message 119: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Tessa HC (onceuponabookworm) wrote: "I think it'll have a Jesse dynamic, maybe?"

Yeah, I feel like Jesse being brought back from ghost to human will have something to do with Livvy's problem as a ghost. Maybe?


message 120: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Yeah I think so too


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Idk why but I have a suspicion taht there will be a curse from TLH time taht comes into effect TWP ime


message 122: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Yeah that’s a good guess. I feel like Belial will curse the Blackthorns or something because of Jesse or Tatiana and that will affect Dru and Ty. Maybe something to do with Jem too so Kit will be involved


message 123: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I think something related to Belial too coz I've noticed Belial demons mentioned in city of glass too. So I think he isn't really destroyed by the end of chain of thorns.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments I mean we know he isn’t since he’s in a GOTSM short story that takes place in 1935 I believe


message 125: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments exactly. he appears again and again. he or his demons. and as much as I love the Blackthorns, it really is hard to believe how they're such a united family being descended from Tatiana. Even if there were more Blackthorns, I really want a little story of them.


message 126: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I'm also curious about what Tatiana might have done being an iron sister. coz if she weakens even a little weapons, many shadowhunters can die due to that.
and I'm curious about this Belial demon too coz man! he doesn't die does he? no, coz he's a greater demon. okay, fine. but dude, why can't you just be weak like Lilith for at least a hundred years?


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Lmao true, he’s actually a good demon since he knows what he’s doing
And I honestly am kinda doubting there’a only one Lightwood line. I mean we have six in TLH and you’re telling me only one of their liens survives till TMI? I don’t think so


message 128: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments so right. I think it's kind of a flaw since Cassie wrote tmi first. now she just has to create something that lives upto the future book that was actually written first haha


message 129: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
What if the Lightwoods married into other families, and only Gideon and Sophie’s line continued to tmi?


message 130: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments that can be true as well.
also, the two characters with mixed bloodlines and high importance in this series are gonna be Kit being the heir and the last Herondale and Ash being the heir of the two courts plus Ty because he's got to pay the price for necromancy


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Technically the only Lightwoods who are alive in TMI times descend from Cecily and Gabriel through Christopher


message 132: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Wait really? I thought it was because of Sophie and Gideon because Alec’s middle name is Gideon


message 133: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Oh yeahh and Emma's middle name is Cordelia, so who is she descended from?🤔


message 134: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Cordelia and James would be my guess, but Cassie said we can’t trust the family tree anymore, but maybe that still stays the same?


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Well Izzy and Alec are from Cecily and Gabriel bc they get the ruby necklace and Alec has eyes that remind him of Will that he got from Cecily/ Anna. And Izzy May have got her whip from Anna as well.
Emma is probably from the Carstairs baby that Sona is pregnant with bc Cordelia would take the Herondale name when she married James and they have to continue the Herondale line.
Lucie will hopefully resurrect and marry Jesse to continue the Blackthorn line (either way Jesse continues it).
And either Matthew or Charles continues the Fairchild line.


message 136: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Yes Jesse definitely continues it, I wonder what happens to Grace


message 137: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I very much agree to @El'z thoughts. they make a lot of sense.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Thanks @Beenish!
Well the family tree has Grace marry Christopher. This obviously may not be true, but it honestly seems likely. Cassie has said they have more interactions in COI so she probably is building h up that


message 139: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Riiiiiiight. Okay I get it now


message 140: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments while rereading I'm actually noting down the similarities of kids and thinking who'd be who's lol .. I'll make my own family tree


message 141: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
haha maybe I'll join you


message 142: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments also, Tessa, Alec's middle may be Gideon in rememberance of Gideon?


message 143: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Now that I think about it that's actually possible... hold on I'm gonna go look up who Robert's parents are


message 144: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Andrew Lightwood and Pheobe Gladstone


message 145: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Andrew's parents are Isidore and Catia Lightwood


message 146: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Okay so Isidore is the child of Grace and Christopher, and Catia's last name used to be Montverde


message 147: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Grace+Christopher Montverde Family
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Isidore + Catia Gladstone Family
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Andrew Lightwood + Pheobe Gladstone
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Robert Lightwood +Maryse
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Alec, Izzy, Max


message 148: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Okay that did not come out like I thought it would


message 149: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Basically Grace and Christopher had Isidore who married Catia and they had Andrew who married Pheobe who had Robert who married Maryse who had Alec, Izzy, and Max


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Yes and Isabelle’s middle name is Sophia for remembrance of Sophie
I think that the girl Isidore is French though?? From her name? If


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