Allegiant question

Tris alive of course, and through all the book Tobias not being so mad and depress for being "genetically damaged" and being so much more time with Tris.

well after enjoying the first two books and looking forward to this one for months, i have to say i was completely disappointed by this book and its ending. a lot of things would have made it better. i accept that not every story has to have a happy ending and i can even accept the killing off main characters if it hadnt happened the way it did. after all the close calls and everything tris had been through in the previous two books, it almost didnt seem believable that she could just be taken down so easily like that. her dying wasnt shocking since she was always putting others before her, but she deserved a somewhat better death than that.

I honestly think a better plot twist would have been finding out that Tris was actually Jeanine's daughter. It does mention in the series that they look really similar, more so than Tris and her actual mother, and that Tris' dad was best friends with her in their childhood. It would be something that no one had seen coming that could have changed the entire story. Four somehow not being Divergent was a plot twist I refuse to believe.

Kill Caleb instead. When he realizes that Tris would die to save him, his manhood should kick in . . . finally. Instead he lives on, never fully comprehending family or love. Freaking moron. She's your sister!

If tris did not die

I thought that maybe she would die in childbirth. That way Tobias would have a part of her with him always. And also his mom would be a grandmother. I would've liked that ending better.

I don't have a problem with Tris' death since it satisfied the theme of sacrifice/bravery, and since you could see it coming a mile away, if she had survived it would have kind of seemed unrealistic. As much as I loved her and Tobias together, her death does fit the story. The thing I didn't like, and what would have ended the series better, is whole concept that the faction system is a way to recover from the war and overseen by others etc etc. That just seemed really...I don't know how to describe it, but it seemed to make all of Tris and the other characters' efforts and accomplishments in Divergent and Insurgent seem meaningless. It felt like there was a huge disconnect between Allegiant and the other two. I think because the goals for the characters in Divergent/Insurgent vs Allegiant were very different. It felt like as readers we had grown close to Tris and the characters and were rooting for them to defeat the Erudite and maybe either make a better system or take down the faction system and celebrate being divergent/being different/being more than one faction. Then suddenly at the end of Allegiant that whole goal is meaningless since we now see that the faction system that was Tris' enemy is now nothing more than a shall, and Tris, who has become so strong, is now just a pawn in a big experiment. That's the kind of impression I got, anyway. Also, I wish Tris' death had more meaning as well. I wish it was necessary as opposed to something she decided to do to save her brother who had betrayed her. That was a bit of a let down.

I would have been okay with Tris surviving. She just needed to live and then Tobias and her would be so happy together. :'(

I thought it was a perfect ending to the series. We already saw how Tris dealt with loss and hardship, but seeing Tobias struggle to cope with loss addressed a whole other issue not previously alluded to in the book. It offered the reader two huge things in my eyes. 1) Unlike every other young adult fiction novel it let the reader know that life doesn't always have happy endings and that what you want to have happen isn't exactly what will happen 2) That when something happens that is uncomfortable the answer is not suicide (memory serum essentially) but rather it is to push through the discomfort and live to preserve the good memories while looking for the new. Tobias was the broken one in the relationship and to see him overcome adversity of losing the only person he truly loved had a larger impact than Tris overcoming loss because she always found some good. Yes I would have loved to see them both survive, but I couldn't think of a more impactful way to resolve her series.

If Tris died twice.

If Tris didn't die.

I would have had Tris and Tobias die. Technically, death is the only way to really END a story.

If Tris didn't die.

I liked the way it ended. I mean, it was kind of dumb, but I've been disliking the series the entire time and "dumb" was better than "boring". And I was sad that Tris died, but by that point I didn't like her very much. I mean, death is never good, but I like that a YA author had the courage to make a twist. Was it gimmicky? Maybe. But I like gimmicky. It's a nice change of pace.

If I heard how Allegiant ended after reading only Divergent, I would laugh and then cry. But after the disaster that was Insurgent... I'll take this any day.

I envisioned one of two possibilities while I waited for Allegiant. 1) It was some sort of experiment (minus the ridiculous and vastly scientifically fallible genetic garbage, not to mention plot holes), for a purpose that would be revealed. Perhaps as entertainment similar to the Truman Show on a wide scale, to see how these people would do in this type of society. 2) I thought possibly it was some sort of training facility. Like, the country was at war or something, and set aside Chicago (possibly other cities), as a place to train soldiers to be recruited when needed. Or farmers or politicians... or even repopulation if things went very badly...whatever. But mainly for the soldiers.

Tris NOT dying, that's for sure. You get this strong character and then you kill her off? That's a no.

A totally different book, not involving Tobias sounding like a wimpier and more hormonal version of Tris, bu******t genetics, and the most pointless death in YA that I know of.

If Tobias died instead.

I don't think there really could have been a different one from the author's perspective: she had proven Tris' dauntless/bravery and it was time to prove her abnegation/sacrifice - the ultimate sacrifice.

Better for me would have been a much more meaningful sacrifice for the poor girl. But again, it's a more symbolic sacrifice that it was for such a worthless reason.