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Apparently, while our library is closed they have decided to purchase additional ebooks. I've gotten two notices now that books I requested in the past are now available through the library. One I'm super excited about. The other I already bought.
I have to admit that I am quite enjoying some of the Corona songs that are coming out of this. They are so entertaining. People are really creative. (Fair warning, there is some cursing in the following videos.)Here's one of my favorites: https://youtu.be/ojrtwXqqc6g
Here's another one he did that is also really funny: https://youtu.be/3xt58OVnmXU
There are a lot of other people with great videos out there now too.
Travis wrote: "How many people are in the UK there's like 8 million people on a 2 mile chunk of land called NYC. That's the real issue. We aren't terribly worried up here in the rural part. It's down there that's..."UK has 66.4 million people. London is 8.9 million.
I wonder how London and NYC compare on a side by side comparison. Not for this I mean I'm actually just curious. I knew London had a lot of people tho. Unfortunately most of London I'm familiar with was written by like Dickens or had Sherlock Holmes running around itDoes it have the skyscrapers?
May need to Google Earth some stuff now
So about the time the first US case showed up I said well we've spent weeks watching this thing travel around the globe. Hopefully we don't make the same mistakes. But what I gather from you Sarah is we're thinking up the same things that have been tried and didn't work and that's very troubling.I mean we had a fair warning and prep time. Dang
Travis wrote: "I mean we had a fair warning and prep time. Dang "That is the infuriating part.
I just saw pics of the London Tube! People are packed like sardines! I know it's extra crowded because there are fewer tubes in operation and timetables have slimmed down, but do all these people have essential jobs that need them to travel to work?
I know! I just saw them too. Exactly Peggy - they can't all be essential workers. The problem is, although a lockdown was declared, it wasn't totally clear for businesses to work out if they should remain open or not. It mentioned shops etc but what about other businesses such as builders, printers, warehouses etc. I'm guessing they'll have to bring more clarity or up the lockdown restrictions even more. Rob has gone to work today. They have a skeleton crew and have a rota so only 3 people max at work each day which means he only has to do 2 days this week. But still. It isn't essential work. Hopefully, they'll tell them they won't have to go in soon. My dad gets to stay at home now, although he's kind of on-call and may need to go in to sort out parts if the engineers need any. Two people at his work are now self-isolating :-(
Just a little PSA: You should not be wearing any rings, bracelets or watches right now. The nooks and crannies in jewelry are prime real estate for harboring bacteria and this virus loves to linger on metallic surfaces. If you do wear your rings, you should clean them as often as you wash your hands.
I don't think well be far behind you with a lock down Sarah, given the way people were behaving at the weekend. My househousehold is pretty much in lockdown already. Pete is working from home and we go out to shop or exercise. I'm praying that they define "essential businesses " it will include WiFi companies!
Kristie wrote: "I have to admit that I am quite enjoying some of the Corona songs that are coming out of this. They are so entertaining. People are really creative. (Fair warning, there is some cursing in the foll..."OMG! Those were so funny!! Thanks for sharing.
Jayme wrote: "Just a little PSA: You should not be wearing any rings, bracelets or watches right now. The nooks and crannies in jewelry are prime real estate for harboring bacteria and this virus loves to linger..."I took my rings off last week for that very reason. I was struggling to clean underneath and then it dawned on me that the virus could get trapped there.
Margo wrote: "I don't think well be far behind you with a lock down Sarah, given the way people were behaving at the weekend. My househousehold is pretty much in lockdown already. Pete is working from home and w..."It wouldn't surprise me. Especially as you were ahead of us on school and pub closures.
Yes I have been enjoying the corona songs too. People have a lot of time on their hands now so there will no doubt be more to come.
I've just read the news paper about the Netherlands and the UK. It's a relieve that the governement is taking this a bit more serious. Also, 5 states in the US are in lockdown. I can't imagine what a view this gives in NY!
I don't have time to check the news today. Some days I don't have time for Corona talk as long as it still isn't impacting my health. You wouldn't believe the issues I had trying to locate some bedding for my cows . I have a feeling this isn't Corona as much as all the strikes and blocking up the railroads in Canada for the past month or two. Nothing worse than calling and hearing were out and no clue when we can get more
And then our president says the doctors would shut down the world if they could. The economy can't take this. The us will be back in business next week enough alreadySo apparently the pandemic will just end because emperor Trump says it's time to go back to work
Why didn't the rest of your countries just call an end to the pandemic lol
Understand Travis, some days it's too busy.Last night the PM held a press conference. People should stay at home and socially distance. Okay. Except if you have an essential job. Again, okay. What is an essential job? All jobs, except hospo that got closed on Monday.
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I'm sorry?
... Most confusing message ever. And then, the party was all tweeting messages today reinforcing this like it was a fact. If you are employed, you are essential as economy, but not health, and the fact we need 80% of the pop to self isolate otherwise in 2 weeks we are Italy. But work coz of money! And Economy! And...
Completely negated the term "essential job" now. It's now meaningless at a point of national crisis. Idiots.
I went into work today after that to shut my office down. 10 days in to the new job, go me. Set up a meeting at 3, but we got shutdown by the uni before that. Shut until July, unless we are researching COVID-19. Locked out of offices from the weekend.
Lexx started at home today, so has set up an office on our dining room table. 5 monitors so far. It's pretty full on, but we'll make it work. I'm just more worried about the fact we have a baby rooster who is crowing all over the place and we may not be able to locate him to a farm due to social distancing if he annoys the neighbours.
Priorities, right?
Latest here is that the growth in number of people infected decreases, due to the measures that were taken 2 weeks ago. However, intensive cares are under a lot of stress. With the models they made, they expect more patients (1100) than there are beds 975) by next week. They can still increase the beds (maximum was set to 1500 in crisis times, although normally there's a lot less), but of course also need medical machines. However, the models also say that the peak will be 2200 people on ICU at the end of May. Good news is that that's still some time away so hopefully more beds and machines can be arranged (it remains the question though whether health care can cope with these numbers). But, wow, to think that we're taking so many measures now, and such a high peak is not expected until late May!
Your uni is projecting a longer timeline in July, Rusalka. You all might be the first to call it.
Here schools are still closed until April 6. A study has been set up to investigate the role of children in transmitting the virus and the minister of education wants to await those results before he decides on reopening of schools. It could be 6 weeks before the results are in, so I expect schools to stay closed after April 6.Some unis here said last week already that they were switching to online teaching until the end of the academic year, unless the situation would change drastically (in a positive way) and we can all lead our regular lives again in May.
For info, we've called off all of Semester 1. Semester 2 starts in July. Our technical restart date is 28 June I think. Which is where the nice restart date comes in. But we are planning for 18 months at this stage just in case, That is insane, frankly. Who knows though right?Our uni was like - We have a research lab into Covid-19. We are recommending this. We're not doing that. We have to do what we preach. See you, bye.
Oh. P.S. Schools are apparently completely safe. Although they have no soap. But fine. Send your kids to school. Oh and teachers who are compromised still have to work so people can go to jobs. Jobs are the most important things. Over teachers lives, or grandparents lives. Jobs. Money. Growth. Business. Money.No. Soap.
Maybe we all should die...
Got it, it’s based on semester start - I was wondering, although who knows, that may sync with COVID-19...
So idk if it's federal or state mandated for ny but my wife says it came through were basically following Italy with triage to treat. Anyone over 60 is not to have a ventilator we don't have the supply . And we haven't even peaked they're just looking ahead
I'm thinking they made that decision early to try to scare ppl into staying home since no one can follow directions
I have heard that some states are beginning to ticket people not complying with the social distancing. I have an evil idea. Why not fine them and use the fines to help all the people who can not work. I feel so bad for restaurants and small businesses.
I like that ideaRenee. Hit people in the pocket book and they start to listen. And pass it forward.I have sign on barn now to call first don't enter. My feed company is gonna mail a mailbox for me to mount for delivery slips. Now it's just who will listen. You won't believe how many times you put a biosecurity sign up saying not to enter and no one listens. I had one up on the old door for years. Not one person complied so when we put the new door on the sign went in the trash with the old door
Everyone thinks their exempt.
And then I had to sign a paper at a government building no less. I got there. I called. Asked if I come inside or they come out. Guys like come inside why are you calling me if you're outside. I said you literally have a sign on the door saying don't enter call. He said oh right. You're the first person that actually did that since we out it up
Travis wrote: "Why didn't the rest of your countries just call an end to the pandemic lol"I'm sure Xi Jinping is wondering why he didn't do it last December. :)
Renee wrote: "Why not fine them and use the fines to help all the people who can not work. I feel so bad for restaurants and small businesses."This is a great idea, Renee.
Travis wrote: "I'm thinking they made that decision early to try to scare ppl into staying home since no one can follow directions"I always knew that people would have a hard time staying inside, but it is hard to believe how stupid some people can be. Yesterday a young man was fined in Buenos Aires, Argentina, for not respecting the mandatory quarantine. He was catching Pokemons.... in Pokemon Go... How can someone be SO stupid???
Sounds like your government Rusalka is following the UKs logic. Although it's not massively logical. When we went into lockdown on Monday it wasn't exactly clear what was essential vs non-essential.One of the big conference centres in London is being set up as a field hospital. I think they have plans for one in Birmingham and Manchester too.
We had a massive jump in deaths yesterday.
My friend sent a meme showing a display of hand sanitizer. The placard said, "$4.95 for 1st bottle", $95.00 for each subsequent bottle". Maybe that would reduce hoarding.My grandson is keeping watch for when hand sanitizer comes in. He stocks shelves at the grocery store and said they haven't received any in weeks.
I'm not an expert on hand sanitizer. But the price of oil is way down so they don't want to blend ethanol into the gas. I heard they have all this ethanol made for the oil refineries who aren't taking it so they're gonna use a bunch of it to make hand sanitizerBeing I have no clue how one makes hand sanitizer I don't know how legit this is but it's what I've heard.
However people more in the know than me I saw comment the world could never use the amount of hand sanitizer that that much ethanol would make
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I think they had signs like that in Denmark too, except the second bottle was something like $430. I'm sure it works, although if you're really desperate you just go in multiple times.
A lot of our distilleries are switching from alcohol to making hand sanitiser. It's alcohol based, but not sure which one. But ethanol to me sounds okay as a layman.First day at home today. Lexx remarked it was so much easier at home without me, and we have months of this!! But seriously, we stayed in until 3.
Then a rumour started circulating that we would be on full on shut down from tomorrow arvo. Drove Lexx to work so he could pick up speakers and a few other things, and ride his bike home so it wasn't locked at work for months. I bought his last birthday present (next week), got some grog (limitations in store now. You can get 3 cases of beer but only 18 bottles of wine. Wrong), and swooped passed Ikea to grab a few things I needed for indoor projects I've been meaning to do for months.
Not the best isolating, but been home one morning and Lexx has done one thing we've needed him to do for 9 months. If this keeps us occupied for a few weeks, then awesome. May need to go and get more wine though tomorrow... We got to the end of our supplies, so it's not a stockpile just a very badly timed restock.
I've read an article from the Netherlands that they found the virus in wastewater. So, it said that the virus is found in our poo.About the schools: in a week we have Easter holidays and I hope there will be school again after that, but I'm not sure. I mean, I'm worried about the lessons that my son is missing, all the new things he needs to learn, but there's no communication about that from the school. He only gets tasks to not forget what he already learned.
I try to avoid most of the news about it, because I'll get too worried. I only watch the news on one channel, I read the newspaper where I'm subscrided on and check it's website.I'm so frustrated about Trump and Bolsonaro taking this so lightly!
@Rusalka: you live in Australia? That's just irresponsible what they' re deciding. But it's economics above lives, it seems. I don't understand it really.
Saar The Book owl wrote: "@Rusalka: you live in Australia?."I do.
The thing is here that businesses are making tougher calls than the Gov (see Lexx), or research institutions investigating the disease/virus are making tougher calls than the Gov (see me), or a lot of my friends are ignoring our Gov and listening to Jacinda over the pond in NZ instead of our muppet and deciding to do the same tough calls like staying home and pulling their kids out of school.
It's the other 50% of the pop I worry about.
10 Amazon workers have tested positive and the virus can live for 24 hours on the cardboard boxI'm posting this in the other chat too. Seems important
I wonder if it'll have an effect on the Amazon orders. Our bookstore has a poster hanging in the window that it's not needed to order on Amazon, because they're open.
I guess infected people have been caught licking items in stores to infect people. What the hell bad dystopian novel are we living here
We don't have any bookstores and the libraries are all closed
Travis You are right about the licking things. I just read that here a man was licking things in a Walmart. The idiot posted it. He is being charged with terrorism. I hope they convict him,
Insane.We've had several people who say they are infected and then deliberately cough into someone elses face. Some just randomly, but also people who were for example angry at a police officer.
I guess your true character comes out in a crisis.
Just saw a man was arrested for coughing in someone's face in new Jersey
I'm waiting for a test. I have a lot of the symptoms that are flagged here plus I'm in an at risk group. Personally I think it is hayfever and asthma but better safe than sorry. I'm feeling grotty at the moment but early spring and early autumn are always my worst months.
Not sure what the waiting time is in my county, in Dublin a friend of mine is waiting 9 days with no word.
I'd better get used to the sight of my bedroom walls......
Coughing in peoples is a thing here too. Our Minister for Heath said on the news last night that a couple coughed on him while leaveing parliament last night. It should be treated as attempted murder.
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Going to find out if we can bring work with us tomorrow."
Ditto for Michigan. My new neig..."
People are calling cops since Saturday and with the 3 weeks lockdown, the calls are going to increase. They now have the right to separate groups of more than 2 and give fines.