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It’s been interesting to see how different parts of the world has been dealing with all this. It is so overwhelming and yes fatigue has set in. I am scheduled to get my first shot this morning. There is a bit of guilt to be getting it when others who are more vulnerable have yet to be offered it. We registered with our fire department on Friday, my age group became eligible Monday and they called us Tuesday to give us our time. It should be that easy for everyone and it’s very depressing that it’s not.
Don't feel guilty Marnie, you certainly haven't caused the problem. It is all political. The worst situation I've seen is India who have a plant producing vaccine but are watching it all being shipped out to other countries when hardlt any one there has had the shot. I shudder to think whats happening in parts of Africa and Asia
When I rule the world it will all be distributed according to need untill then, I'm just glad that I'll be getting my shot this year ;-)
I'm still not out of the post covid woods. My tonsillitis come back again. This is my third antibiotic in a row and this time the big guns are iut, it's a reserve one. It's very strong and it's having all the nasty side effects that you've ever experienced from an antibiotic :-( There is no evidence that the virus is the cause of me not being able to shake off this throat infection but ........
I hope this antibiotic does the trick for you Margo.
I hope the AB will make you better, Margo.
Thanks Saar. I think this one has worked. My throat is much better but I still have low energy levels. It's frustrating but, as Roz says, I'll have to give it time.Saar, how is the vaccine rollout going where you are? It's causing havoc here. So much squabbling between different sectors as to who should have priority. Government have decided to do it strictly by age which pushes me, along with all asthmatic's, further down the list. I'm so fed up with hearing about it that I don't care anymore.
That's good to hear, Margo, just step by step and your energy will be back. I know it's a huge cliché, but you need to listen to your body.It's no better here with the vaccines. There's a lot to do about Astra. Now, it can't be used for persons under 55+ for a month, due to the tromboses. The problem is, I and a lot of other collegue's got the first shot. Now we're wondering if we're going to have the next by the end of May. It is now allowed also to be on the reservelist and now the high risk patients can be vaccinated, but you should figure it ouot yourself if you're a high risk patient, because the doctor doesn't always know it...
But, Maro, if you've got asthma, then you're a high risk. So you should get priority? It's not logic that it isn't.
Whilst asthma means you're more at risk of catching covid and it exasberating your symptoms which could lead to hospitalisation and long term effects, the evidence suggests that we are not that high risk when it comes to mortality. Which is what the vaccine roll out is focusing on. Deaths. Which is rather unfortunate. When I've had flu before, it has knocked me out for up to 3 months, god knows what covid would do. Well, if Margos' experience has anything to go by, then it's a lot longer. I was lucky enough to get a vaccine for other reasons than my asthma. I would still be waiting otherwise and I'd be a hell of a lot more stressed than I am now. I don't think I could have coped what with all the upheaval I've had this last couple of months if I'd had that to worry about as well.
Lord Sarah, if you'd been worrying about getting covid on top of everything else that's going on with you you'd be taring your hear out. I'm so happy you got the jab :-)I have about 4 of the conditions that are flagged as high risk but yet I survived the virus while perfectly health people didn't. It's a strange one! I'm not worried personally as I recon I've built up a few antibodies. If I'm offered the Astra one I might refuse it given my Stoke history, but I'll talk to my GP first. I know it's a statistically insignificant chance of causing stroke but I had a very unlikely (massive) stroke when I was 38 so I'm not willing to take ANY risk.
@Sarah: glad you've got the vaccin. That's one stressy thing you can miss.@Margo: it's good to talk to your doctor first.
The husband is getting his vaccine today. He was able to book via the NHS after they announced anyone over 45 can make an appointment. Just me to go now. He is very nervous as so many of our friends have been ill after having the vaccine. He is a terrible patient so I really do hope he has no side affects.
Good luck with your husband's vax today, Anna.Lexx got vaccinated yesterday. They strongly recommended that the AstraZenica vax here not get used for under 50s. However, there are no other vaccinations for people in Australia who aren't healthcare workers or living in aged care homes that aren't AstraZenica. The government didn't invest in other options.
Looking at the data, the blood clots are occurring at a pretty low rate, and only 25% of those with clots are dying. The numbers work out to about 1 in a million, or 25 in Australia. Lexx decided that getting vaccinated with these small odds was a much better option than running the risk of being immunocompromised and catching Covid.
So far he's a little tired today, and has a tickle, but nothing major. I've told him he has to be average, and not one in a million for 10 days. Strict instructions to be ordinary.
That's not very smart that the governement didn't invest in other vaccins. I hope Lexx doens't feel bad a lot. Here, in Belgium, Astra is now on hold until May 1st for under 55. Normally I'll get my second shot at the end of May.He will follow your instructions, Rusalka ;)
Yeah the blood clot risk is very low but with every medicine, even rare side effects have to be listed. I think it's a bit crazy it has been pulled though.Great to hear Lexx had his done.
Fingers crossed for your husband Anna. Side effects seem to vary massively, i'm sure he'll be ok.
Saar, you have hit the nail on the head. We have Pfizer for healthcare workers and aged care residents, but the rest of us are in the AZ basket. I don't know why, it is actually a public health disaster. The government was promising us all to be vaccinated by the end of the year, and the borders reopened. It is the perfect example of why you under promise and over deliver. They were supposed to deliver 4 million doses before the end of March (before they stopped AZ) and they delivered 600 000. This week it was supposed to be 7 million doses, they have done 1.4.
There is talk now of us not being fully vaccinated until 2023, and borders shut that whole time. It will completely, honestly, kill our tourism and education industries which are in the top 5 industries in the country. I agree entirely with keeping the borders closed until this is under control or we are vaccinated. But this is another cluster F by our incompetent government who just cannot plan or follow advice from experts.
Thanks! He is fine and he is one of the Moderna guinea pigs! So far he feels fine, just a sore arm.
I think the UK has been quite lucky with its vaccination program, but I may be wrong? I know Canada is behind. My Dad who is 70 had his first vaccine last Wednesday. He was given the Pfizer one. My Mum is due next week, (turns 70 this year).
Three of my friends, (all under 50), have had the Astra vaccine and apart from the expected aches, fever etc., they have been OK. Please to hear Lexx is doing well.
I think the UK has been quite lucky with its vaccination program, but I may be wrong? I know Canada is behind. My Dad who is 70 had his first vaccine last Wednesday. He was given the Pfizer one. My Mum is due next week, (turns 70 this year).
Three of my friends, (all under 50), have had the Astra vaccine and apart from the expected aches, fever etc., they have been OK. Please to hear Lexx is doing well.
AstraZenica is not one of the approved ones here in the US, but Johnson & Johnson is, and it has been suspended the last few days, also for problems with blood clots. All of these made me a little uneasy because I've had problems with blood clots during my pregnancies, had to use medication for that, and actually had two miscarriages for that reason. I'm ok off pregnancies, but I know it's something my body tends to do "wrong", given the right conditions.Two vaccines had this problem, and I can't understand what the reason is and it is something that might happen with the others (the information given is so vague), so I have decided to wait and talk to my doctor about this before getting the vaccine, which theoretically I can schedule now, starting this week.
Sandra, I'd probably talk to my doctor first too if I knew I was prone to the side effects. Hopefully, you can get one of the vaccinations without that being an issue, though they may suggest Pfizer or Moderna for you.I just had my second dose of Pfizer a couple of days ago and I'm doing fine. I have a headache, bit of a migraine today, but I am prone to them and don't know if it's even related. I had missed some sleep and gotten little water for a couple of days, so that could do it too.
I was just reading an article about women's issues as side effects of the vaccine. They are often left out of reporting or ignored as unrelated. They were saying some women had side effects of a very heavy flow the month following the injection or perimenopausal symptoms. It made sense as they explained that women's reproductive systems are very sensitive to changes in their system. They are still looking for participants for the study to report their experiences.
Rusalka weote regarding Lexx: "I've told him he has to be average, and not one in a million for 10 days. Strict instructions to be ordinary. LOL!!!
Cherie wrote: "Rusalka weote regarding Lexx: "I've told him he has to be average, and not one in a million for 10 days. Strict instructions to be ordinary. LOL!!!"
How did I miss this?? LOL This is hilarious! Typical Rus. :)
My uncle went into residential care yesterday. As far as heis concerned it's 2 weeks respite care but our GP doesn't think he'll come out. He's got very weak and is losing power in his muscles, its been getting very difficult to look after him at home. This is probably as a result of covid escalating the progression of his cancer.Covid dictated that he couldn't see most of family and friends since his cancer diagnosis, I'm his only family visitor. Now heis in this place that only allows 2 one visits per week due to covid.
I can't write here the words I am thinking about covid and about cancer.
Rusalka wrote: "Saar, you have hit the nail on the head. We have Pfizer for healthcare workers and aged care residents, but the rest of us are in the AZ basket. I don't know why, it is actually a public health dis..."But that's just insane...You can shut a whole country down until 2023...There's talk that people in Africa and other non - western countries who don't have enough money to buy vaccins will be vaccined until 2023. I mean, that's just non - realistic.
Margo wrote: "My uncle went into residential care yesterday. As far as heis concerned it's 2 weeks respite care but our GP doesn't think he'll come out. He's got very weak and is losing power in his muscles, its..."My thoughts are with you, Margo. It's sad that contact is so limited...
When my grandma was sick and looking like she'd die they allowed all the family in with no restrictions and then she was doing better so they kicked them all out and went back to 1 person in the room at a time and visiting hours applied and then she looked like she would die and they lifted the rules and let them back in again. This was all over 5 day period before she went home under hospice. But it was crazy how the rules changed day by day in family visitation. And we've all been vaccinated too. Well I wasn't there but I've been vaccinated but I mean since everyone there had their vaccination card you'd have thought they'd been ok to all be in the room together
Travis, it's crazy not to let you in when you'd all been vaccinated! That must have added a lot more anxiety to her as well as to all of you.Saar, thank you.
I'm sorry to hear about your uncle, Margo. Covid makes everything so much harder. Huge hug.
It's hard to follow the logic of the always changing rules for everything. If there is even logic behind it all
The rules do change daily. I was allowed one visitor and it had to be the same visitor throughout. I asked for an exemption for my dad. He turned 92 on April 4th and was anxious to see me. They put the request in to management and it was denied. They told me the only exception was life or death situation. The day that I was discharged, the rules were changed again because the province was returning to stage one lockdown and it was the last day for any visitors. The nurses were preparing for no visitors. I had been moved from ICU to the neurosurgical ward and many patients require extra help that their families were providing. There were 7 of us discharged from the units and 7 people awaiting our beds. The nurses were really busy.
Margo wrote: "My uncle went into residential care yesterday. As far as heis concerned it's 2 weeks respite care but our GP doesn't think he'll come out. He's got very weak and is losing power in his muscles, its..."Oh Margo, I am sorry to hear about your uncle. Although it sounds like the right move so he can get the care he needs if it was getting tricky at home. And I know you have a lot going on in your home too. However the lack of visitors is sounds very hard for everyone.
Thinking of you all lots. I can't imagine dealing with these compounding issues with the pandemic, it's hard enough in "normal" times.
Saar The Book owl wrote: "But that's just insane...You can shut a whole country down until 2023...There's talk that people in Africa and other non - western countries who don't have enough money to buy vaccins will be vaccined until 2023. I mean, that's just non - realistic."I dunno. We've managed pretty well for the past 12 months and proven we can do it easily.
Trade still happens. Essential travel with compulsory quarantine is in place. The country is massive and we are all going on holiday within the country. A travel bubble with NZ just opened up so we now have finally gotten them as our 9th state (hahahaha).
It will only be until all of the Australian population is vaccinated is what I've heard. And I think that is exactly what all our governments should be doing, not worrying about economics or stocks. However, we have a weird disconnect here where they are worrying about the economy except in the major industries i mentioned before. So those who directly rely on people coming from elsewhere in the world, the government is covering it's ears, closing it's eyes, and lah lah lah lah lah - ing. Too hard, ignore it and it will go away.
The federal government here has completely and utterly bungled everything else to do with the pandemic and vaccination process, but I completely agree with keeping the borders closed - as much as I want to go travelling. I just cannot understand why vaccinating 25 million people is going to take so long when scientists developed multiple vaccines for an unknown disease in 9 months.
Lexx update - still ordinary.
Rusalka wrote: "Lexx update - still ordinary. "Glad to see he's cooperating! lol
Very sorry to hear about your Uncle Margo.
Thanks all. I have so much more free time at the moment I don't know what to do with myself. Oh wait, housework! It's actually a good thing that noone is allowed into my house right now as it's a bit of a pig sty!!
Housework is the least important thing in the world. Although it's great to do in order to feel like you've achieved something :P
It is really interesting how vastly different everyone's restrictions are in each country. I know this has been discussed before, but it still floors me sometimes. I am in the southern US and we are cleared to vaccinate everyone 16 yrs and up. My husband and I both got vaccinated early due to being front line workers with Moderna. We got our second dose the same day, but had very different side effects. He only had some fatigue and a sore arm. However, I had fever, chills, headache, body aches, and fatigue.
I have a conference for work in July at Disney World which is up and running with restrictions in place. I really feel bad for those who rely on tourism for their livelihood.
So sorry to hear about your uncle, Margo. ❤️
Margo wrote: "I'm still not out of the post covid woods. My tonsillitis come back again. This is my third antibiotic in a row and this time the big guns are iut, it's a reserve one. It's very strong and it's hav..."I used to get tonsillitis all the time. They said I was a ‘carrier’. I ended up having to have the tonsils removed (my sister did too at that same time). She found out that they grow back. Unbelievable. I hope the medicine works for you since I lived that scene before. I hope you don’t have to get them removed but I have been pretty lucky not to get it or strep throat any more.
Sorry to hear about your Uncle, Margo.
So, Michigan just extended our stay at home for remote workers from May to October. I’m one of those people who are not thrilled being at home all the time. It feels disheartening to know it is extended until October.I get my second shot coming this week and maybe that is another reason why it feels sad. Knowing that you think that you are one step closer to some new normalcy but then your State extends it out 6 more months. I’ve been home since last March. Sigh....
we are still in lockdown with a 8pm curfew. Thank you /$?/$ people who still thinks covid is a conspiracy. (One gym owner is responsible for 500 cases). Vaccination is really slow here. I heard we will get more vaccine dose so pace may pick up.
yesterday I went downtown to get my laundry detergent bottles refilled and stopped to get my favorite white tea at the tea shop. (a once a year thing) It felt like special day out. Really, laundry soap. woohoo...
Jannene, I can see how that would feel like taking a blow at this point. You're hoping for some forward momentum, not a step back. So frustrating. lol, Esther. We have spoken here many times about how things feel different, like silly little things feeling special or a day out being more tiring than usual. I suppose a once a year tea stop is a special day out.
I totally agree! We had our book club meeting outdoors today, in a local park, after many months of zoom meetings and it felt wonderful.
Kristie wrote: "Jannene, I can see how that would feel like taking a blow at this point. You're hoping for some forward momentum, not a step back. So frustrating. lol, Esther. We have spoken here many times abou..."
LOL hat sentence was confusing. it is the type of tea that we get once a year. The tea stops I do online nowadays. But you got the gist. Little errands that we did routinely that now have a special day feeling.
Sandra wrote: "I totally agree! We had our book club meeting outdoors today, in a local park, after many months of zoom meetings and it felt wonderful."We are considering this for our next meeting! Just waiting to see if the weather will cooperate. It's going to be so strange to see people in person again.
My local club has started meeting on an outdoor walking track. Most of them are loving it, but a bit hard for those of us with intermittent mobility challenges 😞
I hear you Jenn! We are only allowed 2 households to meet outside and it must be in a puplic location. Out side meetings not ideal in the irish climate!
Lies! I got sunburnt in Ireland....
Much to Lexx's hilarity.
At least in my part of new York we really don't have many restrictions other than wear a mask and social distance. And weird rules like bars can only be open until 10pm. As if getting drunk before 10 or from 10-2am really changes anything. Some schools are remote yet our school is small enough in people but large enough in building space that we've had in person school all year. We're like one of the only schools in the state open open
Well, here the restrictions will be lifted in steps, starting over a week. I hope they don't come back again.
Jenn wrote: "My local club has started meeting on an outdoor walking track. Most of them are loving it, but a bit hard for those of us with intermittent mobility challenges 😞"Oh, that's too bad, Jenn. The woman who hosts our bookclub recently had a knee replacement and is due to get her other one replaced in a couple of weeks, so she will definitely not be scheduling anything like that. I'd love to get out to do some walking about now, but I don't think book club would be the appropriate time anyway.
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Uruguay have been doing remarkably well since the beginning of the pandemic, and it even never had an strict lockdown..."
It's due to the British mutation: apparently you get sick faster, it's more conatgious and younger people get sicker. Also, you need oxygen faster. A friend of mine works at a Covid - department and she had last weekend 6 patients. The day before yesterday they all moved to intensive care and the covid - department is now full again.