Hugo & Nebula Awards: Best Novels discussion

Falling Free (Vorkosigan Saga, #4)
This topic is about Falling Free
23 views
Challenges - Discussion > Vorkosigan 7 -- Falling Free--note--numbers are OUR reading order only

Comments Showing 1-19 of 19 (19 new)    post a comment »
dateUp arrow    newest »

message 1: by Kateblue, 2nd star to the right and straight on til morning (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kateblue | 4796 comments Mod
Here's where to talk about Falling Free


Antti Värtö (andekn) | 966 comments Mod
Another early one without any Vorkosigans. I liked both Ethan of Athos and Falling Free quite a bit more than the early Miles stories - except "Mountains of Mourning". Perhaps it's because the heroes are closer to my own age, so they are now relatable? Cordelia and Aral were also very good characters: perhaps LMB writes middle-aged characters better than young ones?

I don't know, but either way, this was pretty good. The plot was very predictable, but the constant troubles and emergencies Leo had to deal with made the book a real page-turner.


Nick Imrie (nickimrie) | 137 comments Antti wrote: "I don't know, but either way, this was pretty good. The plot was very predictable, but the constant troubles and emergencies Leo had to deal with made the book a real page-turner."
I agree with this, one of the joys of SF is competent people solving problems. I think The Martian is probably the best example of it. But Falling Free does it very well too. The tension is expertly rachetted (view spoiler) up and down with:
Oh no, something is broken, how will we fix it in time?
Phew, we fixed it.
Oh no, someone is delayed, how will we get them on time?
Phew, we got them.
Oh no, some resource is limited. How will we work around that?
Phew, we have arranged a clever work around.


Lee at ReadWriteWish (leeatreadwritewish) | 70 comments I really enjoyed this book. The reviews were pretty low and I was a bit worried but I gave it 4 1/2 out of 5. I loved Leo. If I think of all the inspirational fictional teachers, he'd have to be up there with my favs.

The tech seemed to be at the correct stage, for the time period of the universe. The rapidly changing and outdated technology idea felt realistic. I find it amazing how many serious themes LMB manages to squeeze into these books. She covered basic human rights, ableism, racism, workers’ rights, slavery and sexual abuse perpetrated by someone in a position of authority. (Actually, the last one there was pretty disturbing and I've put it down to how LMB added it with such a light touch.)

I guess Bruce as a baddie might have been a little one-dimensional at times and there might have been a couple of things that were resolved a little too easily too (view spoiler). But neither issue worried me too much.

It was very fast paced and LMB's trademark humour was really evident.

There was even some romance for my soft heart but not too much for those who aren't interested to whine.


Nick Imrie (nickimrie) | 137 comments Lee wrote: "I loved Leo. If I think of all the inspirational fictional teachers, he'd have to be up there with my favs."
Yes, agreed! He's a wonderful character. I enjoyed his mental commentary on Bruce!
This felt very much like an 'engineer's book' - most of my friends who are engineers have a particular hate for useless meddling adminstrators, so I think Bruce is probably the perfect bad guy for the story even if he is a bit mustache-twirling.


Antti Värtö (andekn) | 966 comments Mod
Lee wrote: "I guess Bruce as a baddie might have been a little one-dimensional at times and there might have been a couple of things that were resolved a little too easily too"

Yes, my thoughts exactly. I was disappointed how Bruce was just a simple villain: usually LMB writes better and more interesting antagonists.

And there definately were few problems that resolved themselves much too easily. The fewer pages there were left, the easier Leo & co could solve their problems. It reminded me of Shards of Honor, where near the end Cordelia gets away from Beta Colony more easily than I would've expected.


Lee at ReadWriteWish (leeatreadwritewish) | 70 comments Yeah, that was the only thing that was disappointing about the book. LMB built all this tension and then resolved it so quickly and easily.

I was reading some reviews and other readers said they could really tell it was written in 1987 and that the themes it was addressing were relevant to those times but, I don't know... I think a lot was still relevant today (unfortunately).


Cordelia (anne21) | 97 comments I liked this one. Gave it 4 stars. Leo was great as a character and the Quaddies were wonderful. It was good to see them leave a life of slavery and start a life living on their own terms. I agree, problems did get solved a little too easily. But isn't that life in the 'age of space opera'.


Allan Phillips | 3677 comments Mod
I listened to this one on audio last year. It was the first I listened to by the guy who does most of the books. Didn’t like him at all. Now that I’ve listened to several others, he’s grown on me and I associate him more with the voices. This one was a little too soft for me though.


Lee at ReadWriteWish (leeatreadwritewish) | 70 comments Allan wrote: "I listened to this one on audio last year. It was the first I listened to by the guy who does most of the books. Didn’t like him at all. Now that I’ve listened to several others, he’s grown on me a..."

Ha! The first book I listened to with him, he really annoyed me. Then, suddenly, with the second book I really started to like his voice. And the funny thing is I've seen other people say this so many times since: that they initially hated him and then ended up loving him. He's got some secret power over us! LOL


message 11: by Antti (last edited May 02, 2020 01:03AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Antti Värtö (andekn) | 966 comments Mod
Oh man, was that Grover Gardner, the same guy who narrates LMB's Penric novellas? I haven't checked, but that sounds exactly like him. I couldn't almost finish the first book because I hated his voice so much, but now I couldn't imagine anyone else doing the voices for the series!


Lee at ReadWriteWish (leeatreadwritewish) | 70 comments Antti wrote: "Oh man, was that Grover Gardner, the same guy who narrates LMB's Penric novellas? I haven't checked, but that sounds exactly like him. I couldn't almost finish the first book because I hated his vo..."

Yep, that's him. It's weird, isn't it!!!?


message 13: by Kateblue, 2nd star to the right and straight on til morning (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kateblue | 4796 comments Mod
I finished this up and had not realized how much of it I had forgotten. Not much to say about it. I had forgotten all the engineering in space parts--they were pretty fun.


message 14: by Joe (new) - rated it 4 stars

Joe Santoro | 261 comments I think I would have enjoyed this more if I hadn't just read Moon is a Harsh Mistress... they're very similar. This one seemed..., brighter. I think it's the characters, which are great as usual. I really liked Silver especially.

It definitely was a quick page turner, but I definitely felt like this could have been its own series instead of tenuously tying it to this universe. I wouldn't mind a sequel.


message 15: by Kateblue, 2nd star to the right and straight on til morning (last edited May 19, 2020 09:28PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kateblue | 4796 comments Mod
See, for a long time it was not tied to the Vorkosigan universe. At least I thought it was considered a standalone.

Wait and see


message 16: by Joe (new) - rated it 4 stars

Joe Santoro | 261 comments lol! Maybe this will turn out to retroactively be a side story I wanted to hear about!


message 17: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new) - rated it 4 stars

Oleksandr Zholud | 5534 comments Mod
I started it yesterday and I like it - the book has an old (60s) SF feel and this is refreshing. Even with Heinleinian "the more children the better" attitude


Caitlin O'Neill (ktdid42) | 102 comments i finished this one yesterday and really enjoyed it. i agree with everyone else that Leo was fantastic. i would've loved a teacher like him in engineering school that cared so much for his students. Joe i agree i recently read the moon is a harsh mistress and i saw the similarities but agree this one was brighter, i also liked the characters better in this one.


message 19: by Gabi (new) - rated it 3 stars

Gabi | 565 comments (Very) slowly catching up.
I liked this one. The idea of the quaddies was fascinating and repulsive at the same time. I would have wished for more discussion about the ethical side of the story. But as a fast adventure type story it worked well.

I'm with those of you who found the villain too cardboard like. He's the reason why I rounded down my 3.5 stars.

LOL ... and I'm also in the same group with folks who didn't like the narrator at first. I'm still not a fan of him, but somehow in the meanwhile he just belongs to the books.


back to top

unread topics | mark unread


Books mentioned in this topic

The Martian (other topics)