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Another early one without any Vorkosigans. I liked both Ethan of Athos and Falling Free quite a bit more than the early Miles stories - except "Mountains of Mourning". Perhaps it's because the heroes are closer to my own age, so they are now relatable? Cordelia and Aral were also very good characters: perhaps LMB writes middle-aged characters better than young ones?
I don't know, but either way, this was pretty good. The plot was very predictable, but the constant troubles and emergencies Leo had to deal with made the book a real page-turner.
I don't know, but either way, this was pretty good. The plot was very predictable, but the constant troubles and emergencies Leo had to deal with made the book a real page-turner.

I agree with this, one of the joys of SF is competent people solving problems. I think The Martian is probably the best example of it. But Falling Free does it very well too. The tension is expertly rachetted (view spoiler) up and down with:
Oh no, something is broken, how will we fix it in time?
Phew, we fixed it.
Oh no, someone is delayed, how will we get them on time?
Phew, we got them.
Oh no, some resource is limited. How will we work around that?
Phew, we have arranged a clever work around.

The tech seemed to be at the correct stage, for the time period of the universe. The rapidly changing and outdated technology idea felt realistic. I find it amazing how many serious themes LMB manages to squeeze into these books. She covered basic human rights, ableism, racism, workers’ rights, slavery and sexual abuse perpetrated by someone in a position of authority. (Actually, the last one there was pretty disturbing and I've put it down to how LMB added it with such a light touch.)
I guess Bruce as a baddie might have been a little one-dimensional at times and there might have been a couple of things that were resolved a little too easily too (view spoiler) . But neither issue worried me too much.
It was very fast paced and LMB's trademark humour was really evident.
There was even some romance for my soft heart but not too much for those who aren't interested to whine.

Yes, agreed! He's a wonderful character. I enjoyed his mental commentary on Bruce!
This felt very much like an 'engineer's book' - most of my friends who are engineers have a particular hate for useless meddling adminstrators, so I think Bruce is probably the perfect bad guy for the story even if he is a bit mustache-twirling.
Lee wrote: "I guess Bruce as a baddie might have been a little one-dimensional at times and there might have been a couple of things that were resolved a little too easily too"
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I was disappointed how Bruce was just a simple villain: usually LMB writes better and more interesting antagonists.
And there definately were few problems that resolved themselves much too easily. The fewer pages there were left, the easier Leo & co could solve their problems. It reminded me of Shards of Honor, where near the end Cordelia gets away from Beta Colony more easily than I would've expected.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I was disappointed how Bruce was just a simple villain: usually LMB writes better and more interesting antagonists.
And there definately were few problems that resolved themselves much too easily. The fewer pages there were left, the easier Leo & co could solve their problems. It reminded me of Shards of Honor, where near the end Cordelia gets away from Beta Colony more easily than I would've expected.

I was reading some reviews and other readers said they could really tell it was written in 1987 and that the themes it was addressing were relevant to those times but, I don't know... I think a lot was still relevant today (unfortunately).

I listened to this one on audio last year. It was the first I listened to by the guy who does most of the books. Didn’t like him at all. Now that I’ve listened to several others, he’s grown on me and I associate him more with the voices. This one was a little too soft for me though.

Ha! The first book I listened to with him, he really annoyed me. Then, suddenly, with the second book I really started to like his voice. And the funny thing is I've seen other people say this so many times since: that they initially hated him and then ended up loving him. He's got some secret power over us! LOL
Oh man, was that Grover Gardner, the same guy who narrates LMB's Penric novellas? I haven't checked, but that sounds exactly like him. I couldn't almost finish the first book because I hated his voice so much, but now I couldn't imagine anyone else doing the voices for the series!

Yep, that's him. It's weird, isn't it!!!?
I finished this up and had not realized how much of it I had forgotten. Not much to say about it. I had forgotten all the engineering in space parts--they were pretty fun.

It definitely was a quick page turner, but I definitely felt like this could have been its own series instead of tenuously tying it to this universe. I wouldn't mind a sequel.
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See, for a long time it was not tied to the Vorkosigan universe. At least I thought it was considered a standalone.
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I started it yesterday and I like it - the book has an old (60s) SF feel and this is refreshing. Even with Heinleinian "the more children the better" attitude


I liked this one. The idea of the quaddies was fascinating and repulsive at the same time. I would have wished for more discussion about the ethical side of the story. But as a fast adventure type story it worked well.
I'm with those of you who found the villain too cardboard like. He's the reason why I rounded down my 3.5 stars.
LOL ... and I'm also in the same group with folks who didn't like the narrator at first. I'm still not a fan of him, but somehow in the meanwhile he just belongs to the books.