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Rachel Paige  Hamlin I have a weird question and I wanted to see what others thought of it.
The sword of Griffindor absorbed basilisk venom when it was stabbed through the roof of said creatures mouth, and that's why it can destroy horcruxes. That's true.

Phoenix tears are the only cure for basilisk venom.

What would happen if Fawks cried on the sword of Griffindor?
Would the basilisk venom be expelled?
Would the sword be filled with healing powers?
Would both substances be driven out of the sword?


Mary ♥ I think that both powers would have been driven out of the sword.Like Chemistry!But in a Hp way!!!!Something that made me LOVE chemistry (it reminds meh of Potions)


Rachel Paige  Hamlin That's what I was thinking too. The venom and the tears would both react and vanish, otherwise you could stab people with the sword and it would heal them, which would be... Bizarre...


Mary ♥ I know!!!:))))XDXDBut yeah,Rowling left lots of mysteries behind like :Why Harry didn't go back with Hermione's Time Turner and beat Voldemort before even his parents die?No one else would be hurt!And Rowling also left lot of pain...I bared it when she killed Hedwig,I bared it when she killed Dumbledore,I bared it even when she killed Sirius.But Severus...I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER.And Remus and Tonks..I DENY that they died


Rachel Paige  Hamlin She released on pottermore that time turners can only go back a limited ampunt of time, so you can't go back years


Carole From how the time turner worked in POA when they went back three hours, it was necessary to live through those three hours to return to their present time. If that is the case, when Harry went back in time to kill Voldemort he'd have to stay there for the number of years he went back.


Hannah Well the sword takes in that what makes it strong so wouldn't it also make sense that it would keep both? And if it didn't it may not even take in the tears because it would get rid of the basilisk venom and weaken the sword. And it wouldn't take in the tears if they would counter-act the venom because then it would be weaker and it only takes in what makes it stronger.


Mary ♥ Rachel Paige wrote: "She released on pottermore that time turners can only go back a limited ampunt of time, so you can't go back years"



Oh yeah!Pottermore.Of the best sites ever!!!


Ruby Phoenix tears have healing powers, but the sword doesn't need healing; thus, the basilisk venom in the sword would stay.

As for the sword having healing powers, I don't think it would make an impact on it because how would you be able to tell if a sword has healing powers? Kind of ironic. Anyway, I think the basilisk venom would stay and the sword maybe would take in the healing powers (and special stuff happened when you knight people or something.)


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Izzy I agree with Ruby, but in a different way. The sword is an object, so it wouldn't need to be healed because objects don't need healing. Therefore, all the venom would stay inside the object and would still be able to kill horcruxes. Or destroy them


Rachel Paige  Hamlin Hungergames19 wrote: "I agree with Ruby, but in a different way. The sword is an object, so it wouldn't need to be healed because objects don't need healing. Therefore, all the venom would stay inside the object and wou..."

But would the sword be considered "broken" for having poisen in it?
You can't heal an object, but you can fix them. Basilik venom usually makes an object broken beyond magical repair, so would the tear fix the sword?


Sarvenaz Rachel Paige wrote: "Hungergames19 wrote: "I agree with Ruby, but in a different way. The sword is an object, so it wouldn't need to be healed because objects don't need healing. Therefore, all the venom would stay ins..."
Agreed


Jonnathan As far as I remember Griffindor 's sword absorbs what makes it stronger. The purpose of a sword is to be a weapon and don´t think Fawks tears makes the sword stronger as a weapon, so it won't absorb it.


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Ruby Rachel Paige wrote: "Hungergames19 wrote: "I agree with Ruby, but in a different way. The sword is an object, so it wouldn't need to be healed because objects don't need healing. Therefore, all the venom would stay ins..."

Rachel Paige is right: basilisk venom does break horcruxes and things beyond repair. Only my logic is that the sword cannot be "broken" by basilisk venom because it is a special weapon, goblin-wrought. Hermione says that that material takes in what makes it stronger, so logically, instead of the venom poisoning the sword, the sword will absorb the venom. It's very interesting because the sword itself does not damage things just by touching them, like venom: it has made itself into a safe container FOR the venom so that its destructive power can be used at will, safely.


Julia I think the Phoenix tears and basilisk venom would cancel each other out. There's no way something can be both destructive and healing. Yet both can be considered something that makes the blade stronger.

Break this into two questions:
- What happens if the blade absorbs basilisk venom: We already know this.
- What happens if the blade absorbs phoenix tears (without the venom): I think it would adopt some degree of healing powers. It's hard to imagine this with a sword, but one can imagine healing powers on a scalpel? A needle? Any medal instrument used to treat wounds? If the sword was used to cut a leg that needs to be amputated, perhaps the leg would heal instead.

So consider those two options, and we put them together. If the two substances are absorbed in equal magical concentrations, than they would cancel each other out. If there's more venom than tears, some of the destructive power of the venom would linger, but be weakened. If there's more tears than venom, the destructive power would all be cancelled out and some healing powers would linger.


Rachel Paige  Hamlin Julia wrote: "I think the Phoenix tears and basilisk venom would cancel each other out. There's no way something can be both destructive and healing. Yet both can be considered something that makes the blade s..."

That's what I think. Beautifuly said, Julia!

It is weird to think of a sword healing things, but then again, isn't everything in Harry Potter a little weird?


Arbré Écorce A sword is divided into two parts the hilt and the blade. Perhaps holding the hilt one the sword absorbed the healing tears would bestow magical healing on the holder of the sword. Phoenix tears heal more than just basilisk venom so perhaps the sword would put the tears into the holder while the venom goes out into whatever the sword strikes.


Rachel Paige  Hamlin Arbré wrote: "A sword is divided into two parts the hilt and the blade. Perhaps holding the hilt one the sword absorbed the healing tears would bestow magical healing on the holder of the sword. Phoenix tears he..."

That's an interesting thought! That could be, maybe the sword does heal through the hilt. That would be more plausable than stabbing someone to heal them.


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Ruby It could also be that the power in pheonix tears does not translate into any power that the sword could use-- kind of like plugging a window into a power outlet.


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Time turners cause time travel paradoxes if you use them to change the past.


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