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message 51: by ECH (new)

ECH (_ech) I am amused that the MIT tech review got a nomination for a short category. Harkens back to a past life of mine.

And I find it interesting the Black Leopard Red Wolf is listed under horror.


message 52: by Silvana (last edited May 29, 2020 08:27PM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments I was surprised looking at the novel categories as there are no fan favorites (Hugo and Nebula noms too) like A memory of empire, 10k doors to January and Gideon the Ninth.

But then, I remember they have The First Novel category. I wonder if that category does not exist, would those three novels be included in the novel categories or not.

Sad that A Little Hatred and The Bird King did not make the cut.


message 53: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Another list that ignores Tchaikovsky :(. But at least this one finally has Newitz and Thompson as nominees.


message 54: by Jacqueline (new)

Jacqueline | 2428 comments The Nebulas get announced this weekend don't they?


message 55: by Raucous (new)

Raucous | 888 comments Yes - The Nebula Award ceremony starts on Saturday at 5pm PDT:

https://events.sfwa.org/watch-the-neb...


message 56: by Leticia (last edited May 30, 2020 02:59AM) (new)

Leticia (leticiatoraci) This time I read two of the finalist story collections, Snow White Learns Witchcraft: Stories and Poems by Theodora Goss and Meet Me in the Future: Stories by Kameron Hurley and I liked them both and rated both 4,5 stars.

I am also currently reading the anthology New Suns: Original Speculative Fiction by People of Color by Nisi Shawl and tough it has impressed me less, my rating will be more towards 3,5-4 stars, it has a couple of good stories too.


message 57: by Chris (new)

Chris | 1130 comments The Nebula Award for Best Novel went to A Song for a New Day by Sarah Pinsker.

https://nebulas.sfwa.org/award-year/2...


message 58: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Hugo voter packet is available to download.


message 59: by Leonie (new)

Leonie (leonierogers) | 1221 comments Silvana wrote: "Hugo voter packet is available to download."

Am currently downloading! :)


message 60: by Silvana (last edited May 30, 2020 08:40PM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Leonie wrote: "Silvana wrote: "Hugo voter packet is available to download."

Am currently downloading! :)"


:) My Kindle is overfloweth!

This year there are so many Netgalley links.


message 61: by Kari (new)

Kari | 73 comments Chris wrote: "The Nebula Award for Best Novel went to A Song for a New Day by Sarah Pinsker.

https://nebulas.sfwa.org/award-year/2..."


That's really interesting, considering the timely premise. Anyone read it? What did you think?


message 62: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10434 comments I read it in February, so I can't really say how it would feel to read now, but I'd definitely recommend it!


message 63: by Kari (new)

Kari | 73 comments Anna wrote: "I read it in February, so I can't really say how it would feel to read now, but I'd definitely recommend it!"

I put it on my TBR right before all this happened, and then couldn't bring myself to read it afterwards. But I definitely will get around to it. I read one of her stories in Uncanny and enjoyed it a lot.


message 64: by Oleksandr (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 927 comments Kari wrote: "That's really interesting, considering the timely premise. Anyone read it? What did you think?"

I've read it earlier this year in another group. I liked but not loved it. As for a debut novel it is quite strong, but I like her novellas more. My review can be found here - https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 65: by Jacqueline (new)

Jacqueline | 2428 comments The Arthur C Clarke Award finalists have been announced.

They are

The City in the Middle of the Night  by Charlie Jane Anders (Titan)
The Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley (Angry Robot)
A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine (Tor)
The Old Drift by Namwali Serpell (Hogarth)
Cage of Souls by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Head of Zeus)
The Last Astronaut by David Wellington (Orbit)


message 66: by Gabi (last edited Jun 19, 2020 07:37AM) (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments My heart just leapt for joy seeing the nomination of "Cage of Souls". This novel is criminally unheeded and it is soooo good.

And now I have to have a look at "The Old Drift". It sounds interesting, but it is shelved as history.

ETA: Just learned from Hank that "Cage of Soul" apparently isn't available in US. No wonder nobody talks about it ^^'.


message 67: by Hank (new)

Hank (hankenstein) | 1230 comments I could buy the hardback in the US for $31 or the paperback for $17 but that seems a bit silly.


message 68: by CBRetriever (new)

CBRetriever | 6113 comments Hank wrote: "I could buy the hardback in the US for $31 or the paperback for $17 but that seems a bit silly."

I lucked out and could get it with my remaining amazon.fr account for 1.29 euros. Maybe if Adrian Tchaikovsky has a website or a Facebook or Twitter account someone could ask him about it?


message 69: by Kari (new)

Kari | 73 comments Gabi wrote: "My heart just leapt for joy seeing the nomination of "Cage of Souls". This novel is criminally unheeded and it is soooo good.

And now I have to have a look at "The Old Drift". It sounds interestin..."


Oh, Gabi, that looks amazing! Is it a standalone or does he plan to do a series?


message 70: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Hank wrote: "I could buy the hardback in the US for $31 or the paperback for $17 but that seems a bit silly."

That is ridiculous indeed! Tchaikovsky is the only author I pay the higher novel price for novellas, but even there € 10 is my absolute limit. For novels I turn to the audiobook if they exceed the € 10.


Kari wrote: "Oh, Gabi, that looks amazing! Is it a standalone or does he plan to do a series? "

It is a standalone. Feels a bit steampunky even though it takes place far in the future.


message 71: by Damir (new)

Damir Salkovic | 4 comments The Old Drift is a fantastic read. I'm a sucker for novels by African writers, but this one really knocks it out of the park. Highly recommended.


message 72: by Chris (new)

Chris | 1130 comments The Locus Award winners were announced: https://locusmag.com/2020/06/locus-aw...

Best Science Fiction Novel: The City in the Middle of the Night, Charlie Jane Anders

Best Fantasy Novel: Middlegame, Seanan McGuire

Best First Novel: Gideon the Ninth, Tamsyn Muir


message 73: by Silvana (last edited Jun 27, 2020 08:35PM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Chris wrote: "The Locus Award winners were announced: https://locusmag.com/2020/06/locus-aw...

Best Science Fiction Novel: The City in the Middle of the Night, Charlie Jane Anders..."


So happy for Charlie Jane and Yoon Ha Lee.

Currently watching the video, the hosts were hilarious.


message 74: by Leticia (new)

Leticia (leticiatoraci) I must confess that I don't agree with many of the category winners... One that I'm happy to see winning tough is New Suns: Original Speculative Fiction by People of Color


message 75: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Deadline for Hugo voting is extended: https://twitter.com/CoNZealand/status...


message 76: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Damir wrote: "The Old Drift is a fantastic read. I'm a sucker for novels by African writers, but this one really knocks it out of the park. Highly recommended."

Fantastic. It's in my TBR and the price is reasonable.


message 77: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
Just so I can get this out of my system, here's what I want to win for Hugos and what I think will win:

Best Novel:

I'm leaning Middlegame for my choice.
But I think Memory Called Empire will win.

Best Novella:
I think it should be Anxiety is Dizziness of Freedom
I predict This is How You Lose the F***ing Time War will win.
* (I added word to that one)

Novelette:

I think this one's anyone's guess. 3 really strong contenders and a couple others by big names. For my money, the real fight's between Emergency Skin and Omphalos.

Short stories were weakest this year. I'm leaning "As the Last I May Know"

Graphic Novel's gonna be Monstress, almost guaranteed.

I think Good Omens is gonna win long form dramatic. Short form will likely go to one of the Watchmen eps.

Lodestar...so, Deeplight is one of the best books I've read this year? But it's not really YA--it's for mature teens, doesn't have a romance, and follows basically none of the tropes of YA. So I think it deserves an award but maybe not a YA one? Next favorite was Minor Mage.

What do you all think?


message 78: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments I had my guesses (better say " hopes", cause I don't really understand what criteria work for the winners in most cases) in msg #39

- City in the Middle of the Night
- Anxiety is ...
- Omphalos
- As the last I may know


message 79: by Hank (new)

Hank (hankenstein) | 1230 comments Want to win:
Gideon the Ninth
Anxiety is the Dizziness of Freedom
Omphalos
?
The wormwood trilogy

Think will win:
The City in the middle of the night
Anxiety
Emergency Skin
?
The expanse


message 80: by Christopher (last edited Jul 15, 2020 05:06AM) (new)

Christopher | 981 comments When I said I hadn't read anything I forgot that Exhalation had a few nominated stories, so I'm hoping that those two do well.


message 81: by MadProfessah (new)

MadProfessah (madprofesssah) | 775 comments I would love “ A Memory Called Empire” to win the Hugo!!’


message 82: by Silvana (last edited Jul 18, 2020 05:30AM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Want to win:

Novel: The City in the Middle of the Night/ The Light Brigade
Novella: Anxiety is Dizziness of Freedom
Novelette: "Away With the Wolves" by Sarah Gailey
Short story: “And Now His Lordship Is Laughing”, by Shiv Ramdas

Best series: Luna series
related work: Becoming Superman: My Journey from Poverty to Hollywood, by J. Michael Straczynski
graphic novel: LaGuardia, written by Nnedi Okorafor
long form: Good Omens, written by Neil Gaiman
short form: The Good Place: “The Answer”

best editor short form: Neil Clarke
best editor long form: Sheila E. Gilbert
semiprozine: Strange Horizons
fancast: Galactic Suburbia
Astounding: Nibedita Sen

Still holding my opinion on fanzine, fan writer, all the artists and Lodestar.


message 83: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10434 comments The Hugo Awards will be streamed live for everyone to watch, more info here.


New Zealand (NZST) Saturday 1 August 11:00
North American West Coast (PDT): Friday 31 July 16:00
North American East Coast (EDT): Friday 31 July 19:00
UK/Ireland (BST/IST): Saturday 1 August 00:00 (Midnight)
Western Europe (CEST): Saturday 1 August 01:00
Eastern Australia (AEST): Saturday 1 August 09:00

(Weird how that skips from Western Europe to Eastern Australia.)


message 84: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Yeah, I wanted to watch ... but I think I'm not awake anymore at 1.00 h :(. It's so damn hot today and I'm already starting to doze off here at my keyboard.


message 85: by Hank (new)

Hank (hankenstein) | 1230 comments Thank you Anna! Although I probably could have skipped Robert Silverberg rambling away.


message 86: by Anna (new)

Anna (vegfic) | 10434 comments I'm not watching, but I'm having a great time following the entertaining Hugo discussions on Twitter :D


message 87: by Lowell (new)

Lowell (schyzm) | 577 comments the twitter discourse has been extraordinarily hostile towards GRRM. It's a little upsetting.


message 88: by Chris (last edited Jul 31, 2020 07:44PM) (new)

Chris | 1130 comments The Hugo Award for Best Novel went to A Memory Called Empire.

See all winners at http://www.thehugoawards.org/2020/08/...


message 89: by Silvana (last edited Aug 01, 2020 05:27AM) (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Coming from a big fan, George's hosting actually was frustrating. He talked way too much about himself and past stuff - including Campbell so many times (he already had two panels of nostalgia during the WorldCon), and also mispronouncing names of the winners (I believe the organizer already gave an instruction about this) especially women and/or POC. Last but not least, after rewatching, he also made a weird remark about his assistant Raya Golden (who was there beside him) being conceived at the Hugo. It was a cringeworthy moment. He will never ever host again, that's for sure. The organizer has issued an apology letter. https://twitter.com/CoNZealand/status...

But, next year we will have Charlie Jane Anders and Annalee Newitz hosting so yay!

PS If you want to (re)watch it better focus on the speeches. Jeanette Ng, Neil Gaiman, Amal el-Mohtar & Max Gladstone, RF Kuang, Bogi Takács, they were wonderful.

Update: Somebody made an abridged version of the best bits: https://youtu.be/7yGPBIQvs0Y


message 90: by Jacqueline (new)

Jacqueline | 2428 comments I loved A Memory Called Empire. Don't know if it was the best for the year but obviously a lot of people did.


message 91: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1405 comments I enjoyed Memory Called Empire but Im not sure I’d put it up there with The Fifth Season or The Dispossesed


message 92: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new)

Allison Hurd | 14221 comments Mod
called it! And no, I don't think it was objectively the best book of the year but it was different by a new author


message 93: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments I've actually read all the winners in the first 4 categories, yeah!


message 94: by MadProfessah (new)

MadProfessah (madprofesssah) | 775 comments Very happy with the Hugo winner. I haven’t read CITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT yet but I thought A MEMORY OF EMPIRE was brilliant


message 95: by Leonie (new)

Leonie (leonierogers) | 1221 comments Remember that if you want to vote in the Hugos, you can buy a supporting membership for WorldCon to enable you to.


message 96: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Leonie wrote: "Remember that if you want to vote in the Hugos, you can buy a supporting membership for WorldCon to enable you to."

I will do it for next year. Seems like I manage to read quite a few of the nominations to give an educated vote.


message 97: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 2791 comments Gabi wrote: "Leonie wrote: "Remember that if you want to vote in the Hugos, you can buy a supporting membership for WorldCon to enable you to."

I will do it for next year. Seems like I manage to read quite a f..."


Do it! The finalist packet was really good too, even though you probably already read some of it.


message 99: by Leonie (new)

Leonie (leonierogers) | 1221 comments Gabi wrote: "Leonie wrote: "Remember that if you want to vote in the Hugos, you can buy a supporting membership for WorldCon to enable you to."

I will do it for next year. Seems like I manage to read quite a f..."


Definitely do it! The finalist packet is excellent as Silvana said. It was great to appreciate work I might not otherwise have read.

I am sitting here, somewhat tired, after having sat at a computer screen for six (6!) and a half hours as a tiny part of the incredible production team for the Hugos. I now have an enormous appreciation for what it took to get things sorted completely online. (I was not a tech person, just a general do things person, however I have now mastered using two separate sets of audio input stuff at the same time...)


message 100: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Thank you for your work, Leonie. I can imagine that it takes a lot of spirit and time to get everything working for such a convention - especially since it was the first time online which certainly presents new challenges for the team.


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