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The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket
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So I'm at a bit of a loss as to Poe's intentions. Was the mystical ending just a way of getting out of a story he did not know how to finish? Did he run out of time or ideas, or does it represent some deeper philosophy?
Given the patchwork nature of the book as a whole I'm inclined it think it was a mixture of these. It seems Poe started the book in an attempt to gain the literary success that had eluded him with his short stories (so says Wikipedia); but he decided to intersperse his own imaginative narrative with huge chunks of factual writing (filler?), and a long crowd-pleasing adventure involving stereotyped savages.
Apart from the piecemeal nature of the book, it suffers from the lack of interest in any particular character. As Lori pointed out in the previous section, Augustus is forgotten and unmourned after his death; and even Peters, who accompanies the narrator to the end, is pretty much undescribed - we have no sense of him as a person. The plot is paramount, but unfortunately is not a very satisfactory one. While I'm glad to have read this book I don't think I'll ever feel the need to to read it again.

But the story itself is a wild ride and a bit of a mess. Actually, more than a bit. While I am normally tolerant of racist, anti Semitic and/or chauvinistic characterizations as being reflective of the times, the depictions of the natives and the cook in this book are a bit extreme. I agree with Poe's own assessment that the novel was "a very silly book,"
I’m not quite finished but wanted to share a note from my copy.
Everything is physically black or white to supposedly capture the colors of Antarctica. Yet, the whole native segments feels like it happens in a jungle to me. The colors also depict the prevalent accepted racism of the time.
I found the book to be somewhat frustrating. In much need of a strong editing. My copy indicates Poe was asked to write a novel by his publisher as novels were all the rage. He was reluctant to do so. After completing the first few chapters, the publisher fired him.
Everything is physically black or white to supposedly capture the colors of Antarctica. Yet, the whole native segments feels like it happens in a jungle to me. The colors also depict the prevalent accepted racism of the time.
I found the book to be somewhat frustrating. In much need of a strong editing. My copy indicates Poe was asked to write a novel by his publisher as novels were all the rage. He was reluctant to do so. After completing the first few chapters, the publisher fired him.
Rosemarie wrote: "One detail that freaked me out a bit was that the natives had black teeth."
Plus the non existence of white makes no sense as there is supposedly harsh winter. Smh
Plus the non existence of white makes no sense as there is supposedly harsh winter. Smh
Yeah, what the hell? Really, what the hell?
The ending was abrupt. The abrupt ending (no explanation of how they got home) makes it sound like Arthur died after he saw the white being (was it an angel or something?), or that he was somehow going into the afterlife. But it said at the beginning that he survived and told his story to Poe. But then, as mentioned, Poe likely didn't know the ending when he started the work, and he wasn't able to revise it like novelists today do.
I did kind of enjoy the fanciful descriptions of the south pole, knowing those areas were largely unknown at that time and Poe could write whatever he wanted. I wonder if readers will laugh at our sci-fi books about space and space travel in 100 years.
I wonder if the inhabitants of that island had had a previous encounter with that white animal or seen the falling white matter during their travels and had passed on a fear of the color white. But then not much about this book makes sense.
I'd say this was an overall bad novel with a few excellent "Poe-ish" episodes.
I've been reading the complete works of Lovecraft off and on over the past few years, and I think the next story is "At the Mountains of Madness," so it will be interesting to compare. But knowing Lovecraft, he will have kept the black/brown people in the tale and there will be much stronger racism (even though he lived later), so I'm dreading that a bit.
The ending was abrupt. The abrupt ending (no explanation of how they got home) makes it sound like Arthur died after he saw the white being (was it an angel or something?), or that he was somehow going into the afterlife. But it said at the beginning that he survived and told his story to Poe. But then, as mentioned, Poe likely didn't know the ending when he started the work, and he wasn't able to revise it like novelists today do.
I did kind of enjoy the fanciful descriptions of the south pole, knowing those areas were largely unknown at that time and Poe could write whatever he wanted. I wonder if readers will laugh at our sci-fi books about space and space travel in 100 years.
I wonder if the inhabitants of that island had had a previous encounter with that white animal or seen the falling white matter during their travels and had passed on a fear of the color white. But then not much about this book makes sense.
I'd say this was an overall bad novel with a few excellent "Poe-ish" episodes.
I've been reading the complete works of Lovecraft off and on over the past few years, and I think the next story is "At the Mountains of Madness," so it will be interesting to compare. But knowing Lovecraft, he will have kept the black/brown people in the tale and there will be much stronger racism (even though he lived later), so I'm dreading that a bit.
At the Mountains of Madness has a much better structure and plot. It makes me think of the movie The Thing.
Lori wrote: "Yeah, what the hell? Really, what the hell?
The ending was abrupt. The abrupt ending (no explanation of how they got home) makes it sound like Arthur died after he saw the white being (was it an a..."
I agree with you.
The ending was abrupt. The abrupt ending (no explanation of how they got home) makes it sound like Arthur died after he saw the white being (was it an a..."
I agree with you.
Well, that was certainly unexpected. This was an interesting read, and some background about Poe as well in the intro makes me want to reread a few of his short stories, but I would say I mostly agree with Lori here Yeah, what the hell? Really, what the hell? pretty much sums up how I felt on finishing.
Frances wrote: "Well, that was certainly unexpected. This was an interesting read, and some background about Poe as well in the intro makes me want to reread a few of his short stories, but I would say I mostly ag..."
I agree. I enjoy his short stories, and the first few chapters of this seemed similar. Then somehow it just went to crap.
I agree. I enjoy his short stories, and the first few chapters of this seemed similar. Then somehow it just went to crap.
I really don't need to know how to preserve a biche de mer (sea cucumber), but I would like to know why the natives fear the colour white.
What bad decisions do the crew and captain make? Is there any way they could have avoided the disaster?
What do Arthur and Peters find in the cave? How do they escape from the cave and from the natives?
For the book as a whole:
What elements of the story give it an air of weirdness or mystery?
What parts of the story hinder the development of the plot?
What could Poe have done to improve the story?
How about the ending? I thought it left a lot unresolved with too many unanswered questions?
Please feel free to comment on anything you like regarding this book.