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Group Reads > The Foundling - Dec 2014 Group Read - Chapters 13 to 26

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Amy (aggieamy) | 422 comments Are you enjoying the novel?


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Well with my usual lack of self control where GH books are concerned I finished this novel this morning.
This time however I was surprised! In my younger years I preferred the ones that were more or less straight romances


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Jessica (stress_less_jess) | 32 comments I've read this too many times to count and love how it is a combination of ridiculous humour (Liversedge) and yet also a coming-of-age/getting-to-know-oneself story (Gilly).


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Abigail Bok (regency_reader) I love the way it always stays in touch with emotions and deeply held values. For example, the way Gideon and Lord Lionel misunderstand and hurt each other, while each one is being deeply ethical according to his own lights. Misunderstandings and plot developments evolve naturally out of the characters’ personalities.

That said, perhaps Liversedge is sometimes too prescient about Gilly’s choices and motivations—“I have made a deep study of the Duke” can only be taken so far as justification for his accurate guesses.


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QNPoohBear | 1638 comments Can I say that I find Liversedge completely charming? I love his dialogue.

Is Belinda "slow-witted" or just not brought up properly or both? She sure is ditzy.

Tom is a scoundrel but I can see my cousin doing a lot of those things in his younger days.

I raced through this book last night. I couldn't put it down though I had read it not too long ago.


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Jackie | 1728 comments are those who thought it started dull liking it better? I think by chapter 13 it's getting much better, as I recall.


message 7: by Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ (last edited Dec 14, 2014 08:50PM) (new)

Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ I loved it this time around. Makes me want to give some of her others I didn't much like in my younger years (Royal Escape, The Masqueraders, Penhallow) another chance. I'm pretty confident that My lord John & Simon the Coldheart will still be boring clunkers!


message 8: by Barbara (last edited Dec 15, 2014 04:56PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 449 comments ***Carol*** wrote: "I loved it this time around. Makes me want to give some of her others I didn't much like in my younger years (Royal Escape, The Masqueraders, Penhallow) another chance. I'm pretty confident that My..."

Me too Carol, though I didn't actually dislike it the first time , I did like it better the second. Tom remains a favourite of mine - such a boy ! Yet so sweet when he wants to punch people who might hurt Gilly .
I can't say the same for the Masqueraders I must confess, partly because I don't like the period as much and partly because I do NOT believe Robin could possibly have passed himself off as a woman- even less than Prue as a man. And yes S the CH and My LJ remain as tedious as ever . Sorry to go off topic .


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Amy (aggieamy) | 422 comments Qnpoohbear wrote: "Can I say that I find Liversedge completely charming? I love his dialogue.

Is Belinda "slow-witted" or just not brought up properly or both? She sure is ditzy.

Tom is a scoundrel but I can see ..."


I think she is "slow-witted". I don't know what our modern equivalent would be to describe her. Not an airhead because I think that she has something wrong with her. Low IQ? Somthing else? Anyone who knows about these things want to jump in and help me figure out what I'm trying to say here?!?!?


message 10: by Barbara (last edited Dec 15, 2014 10:10PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 449 comments Amy wrote: "Qnpoohbear wrote: "Can I say that I find Liversedge completely charming? I love his dialogue.

Is Belinda "slow-witted" or just not brought up properly or both? She sure is ditzy.

Tom is a scoun..."


Is bimbo still a thing?


message 11: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Bok (regency_reader) Barbara wrote, “Is bimbo still a thing>” LOL—though does she even rise to bimbo level? Maybe bimbette? :)


message 12: by Barbara (last edited Dec 16, 2014 04:55PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 449 comments Abigail wrote: "Barbara wrote, “Is bimbo still a thing>” LOL—though does she even rise to bimbo level? Maybe bimbette? :)"

Oh dear, poor Belinda. I hope and trust marriage and motherhood will not be too much for her .......and that (forget his name , the fiancé) will be patient and kind when he realises the extent of her limitations. Or, maybe a calm and grounded farm life will be the making of her.

(I'm just re-reading Pride and Prejudice and seeing anew how ill-suited Mr and Mrs Bennett are, he having married her for her pretty face and not much more)


message 13: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 613 comments Mrs. Mudgley tells Gilly that she thinks Belinda will settle down once she has a home and babies of her own, and also notes that "they taught her to bake and make" at the foundling hospital. I suspect she is right and that the relatively simple farm life will be good for Belinda.


message 14: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 449 comments I'm comforted by that Margaret ( I like to take my fiction seriously! )


message 15: by Amy (new)

Amy (aggieamy) | 422 comments Barbara wrote: Is bimbo still a thing?

I thought bimbo meant "stupid and easy". Maybe not? I just see her as not very smart.


message 16: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 613 comments Yes, I don't think "bimbo" implies the kind of innocence that is definitely part of Belinda's character.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Before these more politically correct times I think she would have been called simple. & she is very naive.


message 18: by Barbara (last edited Dec 17, 2014 10:59PM) (new)

Barbara Hoyland (sema4dogz) | 449 comments Oh I didn't mean to suggest anything about Belinda's morals, I thought she was quite an innocent girl. I thought bimbo just meant naïve and silly and light minded .

I wouldn't have called her simple, which implies implies actual intellectual issues doesn't it ?

Anyway I know we all wish her well!


message 19: by Jenny (new)

Jenny H (jenny_norwich) | 1210 comments Mod
Oh, I'm sure Belinda has 'intellectual issues'! It's more than just 'silly' and 'innocent' to get Gilly to scour Hitchin for someone whose current surname she hasn't told him, when she doesn't even know whether Hitchin is the right place. Or for that matter, not to mention that Gilly wasn't Matthew when she first sees him.
She has very limited understanding and would definitely have a 'statement of special educational needs' and her own Learning Support Assistant if she was in an English school today.


message 20: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Bok (regency_reader) One of the most brilliant things about Belinda as a character is that she is simultaneously logical and idiotic, obedient and impossible to control. Her literal-mindedness leads to delicious misunderstandings and dilemmas.


message 21: by Elza (new)

Elza (emr1) | 296 comments I just think it's a good thing that Jasper Mudgely's farm is so remote. Otherwise Belinda would likely wander off with anyone who offered to buy her a purple silk dress!


message 22: by Jenny (new)

Jenny H (jenny_norwich) | 1210 comments Mod
No, no, she's getting the dress! Are we up to the end, yet, or shouldn't I say how?


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