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Christine I was debating on whether or not to read these as well, but a coworker of mine kept telling me how good they were...so I started reading the first one and was hooked. I flew through the first 5 books, but I am stuck on the 6th...Lover Enshrined...it just sucks. Can't understand why but it just does and I have been reading it for almost 6 months. But my friend and most reviews say that the rest are better. Its just this one that is crappy...so I say start reading now. They are so addictive.


Amanda Bonilla This series is AMAZING! Though I have to say they're much darker and WAY more sensual than either Harris's or Meyer's series. It's actually my favorite PR series. Raw. Gritty. Super Sexy!


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Samantha I think anyone who likes BDB should definitely pick up Midnight Breed series. If you like the whole bad boy warrior vampires you won't be disappointed - until you get the the end of the series & are waiting for the next book to come out.


Loralie Murrison DEFINITELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mirna the BDB series is one of the best series u could ever read !i know it was for me! and Iam NOT exagerating !!!!:D


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Sara I devoured the series over the course of 2 months. I didn't love some of the books in the middle but because they're all connected you have to read them all for the really good ones to be really good. A lot of times the author starts a romance and you watch it grow over the course of multiple books. It's really all those plot threads that keep you hooked. I reviewed all of them on my blog if you wanna take a look ( http://thelibrarianreads.wordpress.com ) If not, my favs are Zadist and John Matthew oh, and maybe Payne, really enjoyed that too ;)

Enjoy!

Jen wrote: "Hi..

I'm just finishing my way through the Sookie Stackhouse novels, have already read Twilight and am looking for something along the same line to start up next.

I found these on Amazon but ..."



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Sara C.D. wrote: "Brett wrote: "I like Payne and Manny, but I felt like their book focused a lot on Vishous and Jane, and I wanted more of Payne and Manny. Vishous gets on my nerves. Same with Phury.

I felt like..."


Phury's book was one of my least favorites. I just wanted to slap him...his indecision went on way too long! I kinda liked seeing a lot of V and Jane. To me their relationship was a little unfinished and it was cool to see them finally cement everything.


Holly Sara, thanks for the reviews of JRWards BDB novels.
I agree that it was good to read about V and Jane in the latest book, as their story did seem like it had loose ends. I think some of the reason folks dont like Vicious is because he is relentless and over the top about his possessive nature with his female.
The reason I think I love that about him is that for all of the darkness inside the guy, he can still pull great depths of love and tenderness for his beloved. And there is always a HEA. No matter how dark the stories get, the light always wins in the end. JRWard has infused her tough guy warriors with amazing capability to love, to change, and to overcome evil. And somehow, she weaves in humor.
I have reread her books, and there is so much there, I never get tired of them.


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Sara Holly wrote: "Sara, thanks for the reviews of JRWards BDB novels.
I agree that it was good to read about V and Jane in the latest book, as their story did seem like it had loose ends. I think some of the reaso..."


I know! I'm always amazed at her ability to use controversial characters and allow them to be "not perfect". Like with V, his story was complicated and even after the addendum in Payne's story he's still complicated. Or like when Wrath and Beth were having problems. Ward's happily ever afters don't stay in this perfect bubble forever. But I like it because you get to watch the couples grow. The only thing I haven't read yet was the companion book the "Insider's Guide". I did the teaser of Z and Bella's story that happened at the end of one of the other novels. Feel like I should pick it up for more info. Hate that now I have to wait for more...loved that I could just plow right through them!


Joanna This series was great and I highly recommend it. I found the first books in the series are the best. I wasn't a big fan of Lover Enshrined - Phury's story but the rest have been great. JR Ward has a way of keeping the story interesting and real. The series catches you so you want to see what happens next so you just keep reading the next book.


Pernilla BDB go for it!!! They are really really hot hot hot!!!


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Rjsmommy This is my favorite series. I also love Twilight and keep saying I'm going to read the Southern Vampire series but never get to it. YOu will fall in love with the Brothers of the Black Dagger. I actually think the first one is one of the weakest in the series except that it introduces us to all the other brothers and the basic premise of the series. They are romance novels but what I love is that they have plenty of drama and action in a continuing storyline that adds to the story. I also like that the characters are continued in all the books...some more than others...but it's not like in other series where the male character finds his love and then they're never heard from again or maybe just in passing. I can't wait for the next one.


Rhianna This series is soooo good, it's actually addictive. Twilight got me into reading.. and to be honest i haven't really come across a really good vampire series until now. I'm only on book #2 but i know i will enjoy them all.


Paula Margaret I've read Dark Lover and am in love with Wrath. Beth kicks ass too! I just can't wait to read the next book. Loved Twilight and Sookie, however, lovin these a whoooole lot! I recommend them to everyone!


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AE I'm debating on wether or not to skip Butch's book? Is it good and worth reading? I'm on Rhage's book now and my oh my is he lovely.


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Samantha In all honesty the only book out of the series I would ever have skipped was "Lover Enshrined" Phury's story. It was just a frustrating book. All others are worth the read.


Teresa Christine wrote: "I was debating on whether or not to read these as well, but a coworker of mine kept telling me how good they were...so I started reading the first one and was hooked. I flew through the first 5 boo..."

Keep with it, it picks up again, Phurys book was my slowest one to read but I got there on book 8 now :-)


Teresa Anji wrote: "I'm debating on wether or not to skip Butch's book? Is it good and worth reading? I'm on Rhage's book now and my oh my is he lovely."

You gotta read Butch's book, you need to keep in with the story. Butch's book was one of my favourites :-)


Jacque Jen wrote: "Hi..

I'm just finishing my way through the Sookie Stackhouse novels, have already read Twilight and am looking for something along the same line to start up next.

I found these on Amazon but ..."


BEST SERIES EVER!!!! I Love the Brothers! I hope you have read them. These books make Twilight look like kids play! Another FANTASTIC Series is the Night huntress Series by Jeaniene Frost. I read all 7 of those in a week.


Jacque Jenny wrote: "Jen wrote: "Hi..

I'm just finishing my way through the Sookie Stackhouse novels, have already read Twilight and am looking for something along the same line to start up next.

I found these on..."


and they are NOT RATED for TEENS!!!!


Jacque Holly wrote: "If you love reading dark fantasy romance, this is by far the best I've read. Beats out Twilight and Sookie...There is no comparison.
JR WArd's Black Dagger Brothers are so compelling,and they seem..."


I am SO Glad she wrapped up V and Jane's story......I didn't like the 1st book about them quite as much


Jacque Haniccol wrote: "Jess wrote: "The first 3 books are the AMAZING !!
Book 4 is pretty good to
Book 5 sucks - you will want to throw it at a wall
Book 6 sucks worse then book 5 (which didnt seem possible)
Book 7 bette..."


I got thru book 5....and after that it took me FOREVER to get thru Phury's book...but once I did I was right back on track. My Fave is #7 about Rhev....8 and 9 are really good as well. Don't let the hic cup of #5 ruin this series for you! Ward actually redeems the storyline of #5 within the sotry line of #9.


Holly Paula Margaret wrote: "I've read Dark Lover and am in love with Wrath. Beth kicks ass too! I just can't wait to read the next book. Loved Twilight and Sookie, however, lovin these a whoooole lot! I recommend them to ever..."


Holly To Anji and others who are wondering,
Do not skip Lover Revealed (Butch's book)!
I mean, if you really love this series. I actually tried that. I was thinking, "Butch is just a human, not so hot,etc." Then I found some gaps in my understanding of the next book (Lover Unbound). Lover Unbound, is a fav of mine as I love Vishous.
JR Ward has this ability to weave little threads of all her characters in a chronilogical order. She gives you pieces of what each character is doing all along. If you skip books, when she moves to a certain character, you will be a little lost. Is like real life...keeping in touch with all of the characters that live in a household. It makes it seem more real.

I am sad I have to wait until her next book.
I will probably just go back and read them all again!


Rjsmommy Totally agree with your point here Holly. I could couldn't care less about Phury & Cormia's book (which comes directly after V's....my favorite also) but because of the very important subplot that happens inthis book dealing with John/ Qhuinn/ Blay/Lash you would miss so much if you skipped it (Yeah...especially Qhuinn/Blay!!!!). SO even though I didn't like Phury/Cormia or Rhevenge/Elenha or even Manny / Payne (which thank goodness seemed more V/Jane/ Butch than Manny/Payne...and even threw in some more developing Qhuinn/Blay...but not enough!)I read the books because I wanted to find out about the other "back/ minor" storylines that continue throughout. You have to read them all in order or you lose valuable plot!


Lindsey I love this series. I am just now starting book 5. Though if you like vampire books I also recommend Lara Adrian Midnight breed series. I am only on book 3 in that series.


Michelle [Helen Geek] Frankly, parts of the books were tedious. I've read them all and have enjoyed them, but only one #3 would I rate a 5.
Try Patricia Briggs, or one of my favorites is Karen Marie Moning. Good luck.


Holly JR Ward's writing style in her Black Dagger Brotherhood series is different, and her sense of humor is as dark and sarcastic as her stories.
But dark comedy is my absolute favorite, and I have developed a fondness for her hot Vampire warriors.
If you dont love the characters, if they dont seem real to you, I could understand why her novels might seem hard to read.
I am a fan of Karen Marie Moning's Highlander series.!!!I have them all.(Her Fae series was too dark for me and lacking in the kind of romance I love.)
Still, JR Ward continues to be my favorite fantasy author, until someone better comes along.


Michelle [Helen Geek] Holly - have you tried Kresley Cole? She is good. Laura Adrian is okay, but her stories all sound the same -- could be I read the too close to each other. That isn't always fair to the author. For strange, I like Ilona Andrew's new series. I haven't tried her Kate Daniels series, but have the first one. Loved the Moning Highlanders, but really liked the Fae. She caught me right away, but see why you would feel the way you do. Have to be in the mood - not a quick read.


Dhfan4life Ya know when I was first starting this series, I was like why in the world are people (namely women with good sense) recommending such crude books. Because when I first read about folks getting bjs in alleys in the first book. And then later reading about the main fighters masturbating. I was like what is going on here? But after a while the brotherhood grew on me and it is a series I can say I will continue. But the Dark-hunter series by Sherrilyn Kenyon will always be tops for me.


Holly Dhfan4life, I can totally understand why you would see these stories that way! If you had asked me 2 or 3 years ago if I could read stories like this I might have said "are you kidding?".
But the Twilight universe has changed how I think about what I read. I think the explanation is complicated...This Fantasy/erotica genre isnt for everyone. I think we should be careful to judge folks by the literature they read. Or write. I think JRWard is highly intelligent, and senseable. Everyone reads for a different reason, and sometimes it is just a season in their lives. I may drop Fantasy erotica stuff after all of the Twilight movies are over, and I have gotten it out of my system. I think its safe to say I am a moody reader. Plus, I like some dark,and gritty with humor thrown in, which is totally JRWard. I have discovered that if there is something in a novel I find offensive, I just skim over it! I have to say I do find it a little shocking that I can relate to or at least sympathesize with JR WArds Warriors...Maybe its just her fine writing skills. They seem so real to me. Writing in third person makes the author and the reader get inside the male character's heads. Realistically, being inside a male vampire's head might offend some females. Its understandable. Its safer to read stories that are all human, and do not explore the dark and sexual minds of males. Not to say that females minds cant be dark and sexy...


Dhfan4life Oh I don't mind the sexiness or the male mind angle Holly. It is just when I read books I like all that geared between the couple. The whole aspect of it being random hook ups with other folks that aren't the main romantic couple is what got to me at first. Cause I was like I don't care about reading about a cop doing a bartender. I don't care about reading that someone else is getting off. I want the main couple doing the sexy stuff and let the side characters be on the side, ya know? But with so many POVs going on it just made things seemed a little unfocused in a genre where I'm familar with most writers sticking to a main couple.

But you are right not smart to judge other's reading styles or choices. And I really try not to. Just I think the thing that gets me is when I talk to female friends away from here or other book groups. They are all "ew a guy masturbating disgusting" or "someone cheating is such a pig." blah, blah, blah, but then get over to hearing about what women are reading and they are flipping attitudes and not minding that sort of thing at all. So that definitely boggled my mind too. And yea Ward is intelligent and sensible. Never meant to say she wasn't. Or really expected her to be a wall flower either. Just it seems like the reality of what I was hearing from one group of women and what I was reading from another set was what set things a part for me in a different way.


Niina I absolutely recommend it, it's one of my few 5 STARS so far. :)


Holly You are right, Dhfanforlife, as the BDB series is unusual among Fantasy romance novel series. And I agree with you about JR Ward's books being a collection of many POVs etc. When I began this series, I expected a story about 2 lovers....mostly. Her side plots/stories distract a bit, but after awhile I got more familiar with them and then I wanted to know what was happening with Quinn and Blay, for example.
I was also hoping that the second book would have more of Wrath and Beth. I loved them! I would still like more. But, now that I know what to expect, how she is choosing to play out her story formulas,plots,characterization,and such, I found I developed my own style of reading them. The first time through I always read the complete book. I discovered that if I read a second time, I get more out of the book and especially if I choose to skim over some of the Lesser stuff.
I think JRWard's really skilled writing somehow gets people past the "ew" thing. But maybe that is just me. I live in a house with young guys, and so I am around the stuff they(and their friends) talk about all the time. You wouldnt believe some of the stuff I hear come out of my son's mouths when they think no one is listening! These are not the topics you would hear women typically discuss. "Please, son, I am trying to eat my dinner and I dont want to hear about the most disgusting food on the planet and how he ate that."
Also, I thought I'd mention that I dont know if you have discovered that prior to JRWard's Vampire books, she wrote some very good and sweet all human romance novels under the name Jessica Bird. Just google Jessica Bird, and you will find a website with all of her titles. I love them all. You might too!
I wish she would write more of these, but I think there was a problem with the publisher....
Of course, everyone sees things in their own way.
I am reading stuff now that I never thought in a million years I am reading. I discovereed that I like this genre and it is kind of a shock to me.
I must confess that I dont discuss the fact that I am reading fantasy/erotica to everyone I know! My sons think it is disgusting that I read Twilight fanfiction!


Bridget Mazzocca BLACK DAGGER BROTHERHOOD ROCKS!!!!!!!!!NUFF SAID!!!

I really like how each book introduces a new character. Im currently reading #4 and cant wait to start #5... they're potato chip books,you cant have just one,you want them ALL!! This series definately sucks you in and has the perfect amount of action,erotica,romance and drama that most females would enjoy in a book. My favorite thus far is #3-Zhadist! Mmmmmmm yummy...:)


Dhfan4life Yea when I was first staring the BDB books I saw some of her works under Bird in my library. I even think I saw a new one on another site where she was writing under that name again. So I guess she worked out the publisher problem. And yea Ward does change the game up with her different POVs for sure at times. Hence I don't mind Qhuinn and Blay's sub plots or even Butch and V's. I also loved Mr. X from the first appearance. Then he petered out and I wasn't a fan after a while. But I guess what annoyed me the most was the ghost hunting plot and the increase of chapters it took for her to get to her point most times. Particularly when it came to V and Jane in V's book. But yea as I said, I've found things to like and things still rub me the wrong way. But still makes for interesting reading.

Side note I've been with paranormal and urban fantasy/fantasy type of books all my life. I doubt I could read too many human stories without falling asleep these days, lol.


Daisy Sloan I love this series. The characters are lovable and I can't wait to read more. I'm even able to overlook the overuse of certain words and phrases. There's lots of action and lots of hot, steamy love scenes.

I highly recommend these books for any who like paranormal/vampire romance books.


Kristin Hey Chief RP,

This is the best book series I've ever read. You must must must read them All!!!! I read them all non stop for a few months and never got tired of reading them at all. My favorite was book 8...Lover Mine. It wasn't actually the best book but it was the ultimate story we all waited for. The story lines in this series intermix with so many sub plots throughout the whole series and then eventually they lead to a main plot in subsequent books. I love the mix of vampire war and relationship. It is so well thought out!!!! I tried reading other books after this and I read them regardless but they are never as good. Pretty much have to rate on a curve after this series. I had withdrawals for awhile so is started reading it all again. I'm half way through the series again and it is every bit as good this time as the first!!!! ---Cheers, Po-Po!


Holly Kristen, I am like you in that I read these and others just werent as good. So I read them again!
I never get tired of them...
For those of you who love Zadist, have you read the short novella, "Father Mine"? It is featured inside JR Ward's book,An Insiders Guide, or you can get it on Amazon, for Kindle.
It is very,very good. A must read. I loved Zadist before, but this made him love him even more.


Dhfan4life I've read that one Holly and have to say it was pretty good. I also liked who Zsadist was before he became who is was in the present. I think the hopefulness and having dreams about what his mate would be like was really endearing and I think she brought that back in Father Mine. But in the books prior to his and in a few parts of even his own book I couldn't stand him, to be honest.


Holly Regarding Zadist, Dhfan4life,
I agree. He was so bad. But when you find out why...
So awful. I think seeing the badness change slowly into something else is kind of amazing. By the time Bella comes into the picture, he wants to be better, but he dosent believe its possible. I think the progress he makes once Bella comes into his life is just endearing. Its slow and painful, as any healing would be...I found it believeable. In a fantasy sort of way.


Dhfan4life Yea I know what you are saying, Holly. And although I get that Bella is a good person in her own way. I'm so annoyed with her too. Do to the whole Phury having feelings for her thing. And her knowing that he did and then she was brushing his hair and stuff. And also kind of playing that role of socialite type that is seeking out the bad boy. So I don't know. I get why fans dub them the fave couple. But at the same time I'm not a fan of them for that stuff too.


Holly Yes, Dhfan4life, I too felt angry (mildly) and confused as to why Bella would do that. But I think it was mostly done in ignorance of what Phury was going through. I think she thought she was just being kind to him, since he was Zadist's brother. It was so frustrating and I felt so bad for Phury.
My fav couple in this series is a tie between Wrath and Beth and Viscious and Jane. Although I really liked the sweet and sad romance between Rhage and Mary. I guess Wrath and Beth's story was my favorite. It pulled me into this series completely.
If you've read all of JR Ward's BDB books and you feel like your jonesing for some hot vampires, read Lara Adrian's Midnight Breed series. Not quite as good as JR Ward, but still very good!


Dhfan4life I'm not big on Wrath and Beth either. Especially how he never really explained about Marissa worth anything. And how they were snapping at each other so much. But they serve as figure heads well enough I guess. And I read the Dark-Hunter books, what the DH stands for in my screen name. Love that series and Sherrilyn Kenyon's way of writing. I've heard of the breeds series. Haven't read it yet and hear it is good. Just right now trying to diversify my paranormal books for the moment. Some of these angsty vamps are getting on my nerves, lol.


Marlene I love love love the brothers this is a must read can't wait for the next book


Marlene And Jen u should also read A Night Huntress Novel by Jeaniene Frost there's 7 books and the 8th come's out the 30th it's one of the best romance book's out there must read


Alyssa I read "Dark Lover" and loved it but my library doesn't have the rest of the series so I'm just going to break down and buy them all. They're really great!


Snacks Love BDB!! On book 5, and these vamps r sexy!


❤️ Dorsey aka Wrath Lover Reviews ❤️ Samantha wrote: "I think anyone who likes BDB should definitely pick up Midnight Breed series. If you like the whole bad boy warrior vampires you won't be disappointed - until you get the the end of the series & ar..."

Samantha I TOTALLY agree with you, I love both of these series...you should try Lara Wright's "Eternal" series (or maybe you already have).


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Snacks Dorsey wrote: "Samantha wrote: "I think anyone who likes BDB should definitely pick up Midnight Breed series. If you like the whole bad boy warrior vampires you won't be disappointed - until you get the the end o..."

How many in midnight breed series?


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