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Rowan and Aelin



There are no words to describe how glad I am not to be alone in this... I totally agree with you.
Rowan and Celaena/Aelin are just made for each other. They're both bad-ass, fae (to an extent, in Celaena's case), have powerful magic, and both know the pain of loss. They're carranam, and Rowan swore the blood oath to her, which shows the strength of their bond. And add to that the fact he saved her life a hundred times more than Chaol ever can. And that she told Rowan a lot more about her past, things she's told no one else.
Chaol is a good, likable person but he is too...soft for Celaena; she's a beautiful wildfire, and frankly, he can't handle her. He struggles to accept her, and often tries to separate her emotions and decisions between 'Aelin' and 'Celaena', instead of acknowledging that 'they' are one person. Chaol may have a kind heart, but that is one of the reasons he's not for her. And not to mention, he chose the king by not telling her about the threat to Nehemia in CoM.
To me, it seems as though ultimately, Chaol broke Celaena (even unintentionally counts), while Rowan mended her. Do I need to say more as to why Celaena should be with Rowan? Because believe it or not, there is.
I think there is hope for our dear Fae Prince. Celaena took off the amethyst ring, which might just mean that she's over Chaol.

But in the end I still hope she ends up with Rowan. They understand each other so well and don't judge each other at all.

There are no words to describe how glad I am not to be alone in this... I totally agree with you.
Rowan and Celaena/Aelin are just made for each other. They're both bad-ass,..."
Yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!! I was releasing HoF as well and at the end Chaol says this..... "part of him could still not fathom what she'd done to Narrock, the battle cry she'd issued from across the sea.He could not accept that part of her, so bloodthirsty and unyielding" really dude? Lol but even at the end he doesn't accept her.
And Rowan totally mended her and I feel as if she is mending him as well! Let's all cross our fingers that Sarah wants what's best for Aelin lol!

I know the idea of three more books is scary because honestly at this point it coukd go anyway. If I were writing the book though I would let Aelin be on her own for a while, seeing that she is strong on her own (with the help of friends aka Rowan ;) and that over time Aelin realizes that it's that friendship that is what she needs most, that He is what she needs most!!! :) let's keep praying!


Just curious as to why you don't think it will happen? I'm not disagreeing because you may be right but just curious as to why you think it?!


There are no words to describe how glad I am not to be alone in this... I totally agree with you.
Rowan and Celaena/Aelin are just made for each other. They're both bad-ass,..."
I completely agree with everything you stated. Right now I am so torn between him being the best friend she can ask for and something more developing between them. Rowan is a lot older (as we all know) and hence more mature making it easy for him to relate to her on so many levels. I also worry about that difference in maturity being a hindering factor. Not to mention he's already had a mate. Aelin is going to grow a lot more after Heir of Fire making it so she won't need to lean on Rowan as much. We still don't know if Chaol is indeed her "mate." Is that something only between Fae or can it be anyone?
Something that I noticed that is too huge to just be a coincidence is how Rowan smells like pine and snow. Celeana in the novellas described Terrasen as smelling like pine and snow. Now what REALLY threw me over the edge is Rowan's physical description. He has silver hair with pine green eyes. Ummm... Terrasen's royal colors are green and silver. Whaaaaatttt. Did Sarah intend all of that!?
I mean Celeana has described being with Chaol as finally feeling like home, but Rowan is Literally home. Tell me if that doesn't mess with your mind.
I can go on forever about this. How does he smell her? What does he smell? How much do these scents even reveal? What did he taste in her blood? Why was it important to him on whether his friends stopped to help her? When Gavriel was getting tattooed, he was sniffing both her and Rowan. I'm really focused on the scent aspect, but it just seems so many answers can be revealed that way.
Well what I really wish had happened was that she took a feather from Rowan before leaving to Adarlan. Wouldn't that have been beautiful?


We have a clear understanding of Celeana's thought process regarding Rowan, but I feel Rowan's feelings towards her are still a bit of a mystery. I'm also still puzzling about that little exchange regarding mates. That truth? It could have gone either way. Yes he is your mate, no I highly doubt he is your mate. That first time he bit her, his first question was about Chaol. But I completely agree that there seemed to be a double meaning in that exchange. Overall, Rowan has been really cryptic with her(which might be something to consider) and I'm really hoping he'll reveal more later on. He had one enormous wish fulfilled and probably in his eyes, anything more would be selfish. At least that's what I'm hoping and it will change.
I still don't understand whether she will be immortal or not. The only clue I can think of is Lorcan. He is the top male in all of Doranelle, second was Rowan. What intrigued me is that Lorcan is a demi-fae yet how long has he been serving Maeve and just how powerful is he?
I know that there is a large majority out there that wish for Celeana's and Rowan's relationship to remain as is and while I can see the appeal and understanding of it, I also see love developing slowly and at the right time. Her focus right now is her people and stopping the king as it should be, but who's to say she hasn't already discovered her changing feelings?
I can also see Celeana falling in love with Chaol all over again as she is about to see him become a warrior himself. The ending makes me think there is a bit of foreshadowing regarding his character. He abandoned his old sword for a king's sword and says he has no name, no title, no position. Makes me think of Brannon. People have also worked really hard to keep him alive for Celeana. I think the important change that is about to take place is where now he is going to fight for a better world and his kingdom restored whereas before he was only doing things to help Celeana and Dorian. I can say more on this subject, but I'll end up writing a novel by the end of it if I include Rowan too lol
I was wondering whether anything would happen with Dorian and Celeana because of their titles and the Gavin and Elena connection, but I think they will always remain the best of friends and allies. I don't see Dorian recovering easily from Sorscha's death, not to mention rescuing him from darkness will most likely be one of the biggest plotlines in the next book. Sadly, he is probably going to make a very formidable opponent, but like the "defective" creature in the catacombs, he will hold onto some semblance of his humanity. Celeana goes above and beyond for those she cares about and Dorian is no exception.
I have so much more I wish to say, but just wondering how do you think Rowan was able to heal Celeana's cut wrist after the meeting with Maeve? His back also stitched itself back together. I thought that was really strange because there was no clear indication whether Celeana was using her healing ability.
What do you think about the moment when Rowan was running towards her when she was caught with the Valg princes? He knew she was alive because they had bonded. What do you think that meant?
Oh and things to keep in mind because I've been paying attention to Maas' pinterest are all the women that will be making an appearance in the next book. If you've read the novellas, I think Ansel will definitely be present and it seems Lysandra might make a reappearance. There is a new character Nesryn coming up that I'm excited to see as long she ends up being a good guy. Elide will be very important. Then of course Manon and her witches. We can't forget Kaltain either, but we don't know just how much she's changed. So many possibilities, so many powerful women.

But then Sarah singled that out by stating that Aelin felt no romance towards Rowan and vice versa, not even when they had seen each other' bare skins or half naked body. Not even when they shared their bed and been that way for not a very short period. The only moment Aelin ever felt romantically (or thinking sexually) for Rowan was when she thought it might distract her from remembering Chaol.
Chaol is very far away and has become her enemy but as much as she wants to forget him, Chaol is still there. She even remembered Chaol and their love-making when she was exposed with amazing body of Rowan.
I think Rowan is more of the other Aedion. They both love her and keep her safe fiercely will die for her, but it will always be Chaol in Celaena's mind. Maybe not in book 4 but I hope that strong love will be back in the last book.


By the end of HoF, Aelin is just too badass for Chaol, and a different sword won't change that. I can hardly imagine any other character having a more profound and intimate bond than Aelin & Rowan (which is both emotional and physical, all that blood drinking falls somewhere between kissing and oral sex on the line of physical intimacy). So, if she ended up with anyone else, he'd be seriously jealous most of the time. Except if Rowan dies, in which case I want the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind treatment...


I also wouldn't mind if she ended up with Dorian, as they are both royalty and friends. Some of the most romantic relationships start out as friends, and I feel that this could be the case between the two of them. I've never really liked Chaol that much. I felt that any relationship between them would've been short and painful, because they are so different from each other.



But this is a YA book so it'll probably end that way. I'm just glad that if it does end that way, we've seen the two bond as friends. None of that insta-love nonsense :)




As for the soul mates thing, I lost my mind when SJMaas said that!

That being said I am going down with the Rowan/Aelin ship till the end. I don't care that they weren't romantically involved in HoF, I think that they connected on a far more important level, and it will be that much more amazing because it wasn't some cheesy insta-love.
I get that people think that he is more of a BFF or brother, and I respect that but realistically speaking, good luck to whoever she ends up with, if Rowan is still in the picture. Isn't your husband/mate/love -whatever- supposed to be that person that understands you, loves you for who you are etc? I mean the best is when your best friend is also your mate. It would be very hard for another man to not feel insecure around a man that has such a deep connection with the woman you love ( except a brother because nothing is going to happen there).
That is why I am Rowan/Aelin to the end, I like who she is around him (though she is awesome on her own ,don't get me wrong), and I like who he is around her.

But, no matter what happens, here is my final statement:
AEDION AND AELIN ARE MEANT TO BE! DON'T YOU DARE LET HIM ROT IN THAT FRICKING SHITHOLE, SARAH!

Absolutely. Aedion is perfect.


I think their relationship is more of a BFF sort of thing, too, but the oath doesn't make it impossible. The female simply has a lot more control over the other. But I don't think Aelin loves him, loves him either. Mutual attraction, maybe, but mostly probably brother-sister sort of love.


blegh



I'm with you... :)

YAY FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SHIPS AEDION AND CELAENA!!! THEYRE PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER!!! THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MARRIED ANYWAY!!! AND PLUS HED MAKE A GREAT KING!!! LIKE WHEN REN ASKED HIM IF HE WANTED TO BE KING!!! FORESHADOWING!!!!!!!!!! He better not die...

ROWAN ALREADY HAS A MATE, even though she's dead... ROWAN AND CELAENA ARE carranam!!! AEDION MUST BE HER MATE


I agree with you.
I like Aelin with Rowan. Honestly, I wouldn't mind Aelin ending up with anyone as long as it's not Chaol. Aelin is too badass for him. I want Chaol to be happy but I just don't ship him with Aelin.
My number one choice is Aedion.
But if that doesn't happen, I would want Aelin with Dorian or Rowan.
PS: Rowan and Aelin together are amazing.



Thank you for somebody who actually agrees with me on this point. I understand that Aedion is crazy loyal in a cute way, but they haven't seen each other in YEARS. You can't just expect her to suddenly fall in love with him after Dorian,Choal (ugh), and the perfect one for her... Rowan! Sorry if I'm ranting again but I just can't help it. By the way, love your comment!!

I know how you feel. After she left rowan I was so disgusted by the friend zone situation that I literally refused to read anything for a week. ( that's suicide on my standards)Would one kiss be to much to ask for, she clearly gets jealous when he looks at other girls, if that is not a sign of love then what is?! I swear if any boy even kisses her hand before Rowan gets his kiss I will die with my sinking fandom ship.

Thank you!!!!!! You have spoken everything I try to tell non Aelin and Rowan fans. You have just made the world a better place so thank you. Rowan and Aelin forever!!!!

I'm with you sister

Thanks I really appreciate the friend request. I can't wait for the next book in this series... :)

O my gawed yes I need to see some Rowan and Aelin action going on. I bet if anything Rowan will find his way to her in bird form. She'll get pissed, but he can't talk, and she will get over it. Maybe they will destroy the King's clock towers and Rowan can turn back to his sexy form. Then they can make out I'm too much lmao... ;)

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Celaena/Aelin needs someone who understands her past, why she does the things that she does, and someone who will stand by her no matter what with no judgements. Doesn't everyone deserve that? This is why... At this point I think her and Rowan could be really eat together. I know at this point it is purely platonic. But reading Heor of fire you understand what a deep friendship they have. SOOOOO DEEP! Isn't that needed in a strong relationship? Rowan understands the monster inside her, and does not cringe at it. Rowan understands the pain that she copes with and they have helped eachothee out so much throughout the book.
I find that Rowan reminds me so much of Sam. Both were solves to their master (Maeve and Arobynn) and both wanted out of that life. Both of them understood celaena and accepted her, both would fight at her side . Both protective. Both argue/challenge her which she obviously needs.
I don't know, what are your thoughts? Do you think Sarah will take their relationship further? With three books left I can honestly see it going in all sorts of directions!!