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Rowan and Aelin

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Christy I know many Throne of Glass readers have noticed that Aelin/Celaena repeatedly emphasized the friendship she has with Rowan, but that doesn't mean their connection can't scale off into something more. Our heroine may not understand her own feelings yet.

Aside from the face value of Celaena's conscious thoughts, much has transpired between Aelin and Ronan in the third installment. It was a build-up, leading them to something more than where they began. Neither Ronan and Aelin are entirely aware yet. We have yet to see Ronan's POV in Queen of Shadows, which in itself will be a delight.

All this speculation is certainly exciting to partake in! It's marvelous that we are merely halfway through this six-book journey, and to think there is much more that will happen to our beloved characters.
Regarding Rowan's storyline, it was pleasant news when Sarah J. Maas mentioned that it's possible for fae to have more than one mate.
Beyond that, we must remember that mate is not synonymous with carranaam, which Aelin and Rowan are. That itself is phenomenal.

Regardless, it is a given that Rowan will play a pivotal role in Celaena's endeavors to turn the tide. By the end of the Throne of Glass series, it is doubtless that he will go down as an unforgettable warrior.


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Dagmawit Christy wrote: "I know many Throne of Glass readers have noticed that Aelin/Celaena repeatedly emphasized the friendship she has with Rowan, but that doesn't mean their connection can't scale off into something mo..."

you understand the struggle.


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Christy Dagmawit wrote: "Christy wrote: "I know many Throne of Glass readers have noticed that Aelin/Celaena repeatedly emphasized the friendship she has with Rowan, but that doesn't mean their connection can't scale off i..."

Aye. The release of Queen of Shadows is near, though. Closer than it has ever been. :)

Sarah J. Maas's confirmation of Rowan having significant page time is enough to keep us teeming on the edge of our seats.

I'm currently re-reading Heir of Fire. Celaena's state at the beginning of the book is heartbreaking. She was carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders, and her dynamics with Rowan at the start was antagonistic at best.
But she opened up to him, and he to her. They grew together. I suspect that it is only the beginning, and they have much ground to cover together.


Ovidio Perez Dagmawit wrote: "sorry first song not book was kiss the girl"

OMG I can see that song fitting them perfectly. I'm like playing the scenes out of my head with the song lol... x'D


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Dagmawit Misaki wrote: "Dagmawit wrote: "sorry first song not book was kiss the girl"

OMG I can see that song fitting them perfectly. I'm like playing the scenes out of my head with the song lol... x'D"


I know, right!!! I just couldn't stop listening to it, I just kept goining back to fan girl mode and start imagining the possibilities!!!


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Dagmawit Shan wrote: "Misaki wrote: "Noooarrgghhh is how I felt after this ended. Not once did she ever kiss Rowan on the lips or make out with him. I wanted her to end up with Rowan so badly, but the fact remains she n..."
Never! News flash, fae can have more than one mate! Also Aedion would not be a good king because he is to obsessed about Aelin! A kings job is to take care of the people. May I mention that Rowan has a good balance of both traits. Sorry but I doubt my opinion of Rowan shall ever change. Though I respect the fact that you work hard for your shipping and is not a choalina fan. I'm sorry Shan but this shipping is life and I hope you join the light. Leave the darkness come to the welcoming rowan+aelin shipping light


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Dagmawit Misaki wrote: "Dagmawit wrote: "Misaki wrote: "To the people who are shipping Aedion and Aelin we haven't even seen there chemistry or action together? All I know is that they had history together as kids, but th..."

Your a hard core shipper like me, who wouldn't want to be your friend?


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Dagmawit Amber wrote: "I'm convinced that Rowan and Aelin will end up together. I just can't see it any other way. I love Chaol but in all honesty I think Rowan would make a better match for her. I think that Chaol will ..."

your and rowan+aelin love yet choalina hate rant touched my fan girl heart. THANK YOU


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Dagmawit Nancy wrote: "Dara wrote: "Aedion and Aelin!! I mean it's totally not incest since much everybody share a bloodline or two. Rowan and Dorian are also related to Aelin, more or less. I will never ship Chaol and A..."

I love your hate for choalina and the fact that you ship aelin+rowan but why the aedion thing?! Don't go to the dark side the light is waiting for you.


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Dagmawit Shan wrote: "Misaki wrote: "Noooarrgghhh is how I felt after this ended. Not once did she ever kiss Rowan on the lips or make out with him. I wanted her to end up with Rowan so badly, but the fact remains she n..."
ummm...if aedion was her mate wouldn't they have felt it earlier. They were together for years, rowan and aelin felt a spark in a couple of months even with that heartache wall, so no.


Ovidio Perez Dagmawit wrote: "Misaki wrote: "Dagmawit wrote: "Misaki wrote: "To the people who are shipping Aedion and Aelin we haven't even seen there chemistry or action together? All I know is that they had history together ..."

Giirl I'll always side with you unless Rowan does something so horrible that it makes me cringe in fear. Which I doubt he would, because Rowan is too smexy to make mistakes. Rowan x Aelin for life... <3


Christy I was clicking around on Youtube and stumbled across an interview with Sarah J. Maas in which she stated that Caleana "has chosen at this point" (referring to Queen of Shadows). I can just see the legions of fans spazzing, burning to know.

On another interesting note, Sarah was requested by a fan to sort her characters in Harry Potter houses - and Celaena and Rowan are both in Gryffindor. :)


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Dagmawit Christy wrote: "I was clicking around on Youtube and stumbled across an interview with Sarah J. Maas in which she stated that Caleana "has chosen at this point" (referring to Queen of Shadows). I can just see the ..."

I ship it too. Aelin+Rowan for life


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Dagmawit Misaki wrote: "Dagmawit wrote: "Misaki wrote: "Dagmawit wrote: "Misaki wrote: "To the people who are shipping Aedion and Aelin we haven't even seen there chemistry or action together? All I know is that they had ..."
I feel the same way!!! Sarah is either going to shatter my heart like plates at a greek party or she is going to make me one of the happiest people on earth. I hope she chooses the second option.


Christy I'm hoping for Rowan/Aelin lovin' in the fourth book. All that build up can't have been for nothing, right? I don't think it's a coincidence that Ronan smells like Terrasen (pine and snow).

I was looking around Sarah J. Maas's Pinterest and noticed a lot of Rowan pins where he's got a hooded tunic getup and armed with arrows. In many other pins, he's wearing heavy armor as well as a mask. At least two pins depict him with a wyvern, one of them where he's in a mid-air flip. Strong hints of him being in battle. More than anything for Rowan, I really hope he survives the series. <3


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Dagmawit Christy wrote: "I'm hoping for Rowan/Aelin lovin' in the fourth book. All that build up can't have been for nothing, right? I don't think it's a coincidence that Ronan smells like Terrasen (pine and snow).

I was ..."

you got that right. If Rowan died I would die with him.


Jess S OMG I dont know if I could take another of her boy toy losses...I'm prepared to Choal to bite the dust...maybe even Dorian, but not Rowan. I'm with Dagmawit I dont know if i could survive it. Sam was painful enough.


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Dagmawit Amber wrote: "I'm convinced that Rowan and Aelin will end up together. I just can't see it any other way. I love Chaol but in all honesty I think Rowan would make a better match for her. I think that Chaol will ..."

speak the truth!!!


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Dagmawit Lauren wrote: "Okay I love these books so very much. I know some people feelmlike she will still end up with Chaol in the end but I'm just not seeing it. Chaol does not accept Celaena for who she is. He has a har..."

I love your comment!!! People need to understand that if a guy can't accept you for who you are while not being a total stalker who hasn't seen a girl in years(cough....sorry Aedion....cough)than you have placed yourself on my NO I DON'T WANT YOU list. So thank you for explaining the great truth to those in the dark. I'm sorry but this OTP is my life. I shall die protecting my ship.


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Dagmawit Is it just me or do I feel like I lost half my comments?


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Dagmawit I can't see my recent comments! I'm freaking out! Aghhh


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Dagmawit YAY! I can finally see my comments again! Sarah your killing me!Change the release date to tomorrow! I would always love unless you interfered with my OTP!(rowan and aelin forever!) Please....but if the wait meant bringing rowan to aelin take all the time you need. Still why is September so far away? A girl can dream.


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Dagmawit my last comment had no train of logic or thought it was all over the place. (huh, its like the way I rant)Can everybody vote on what shipping they want please? I want to know where everybody stands and which ship is the biggest.
- Choal and Aelin (just typing it makes me have a gag reflex/no offence to the shippers just an opinion)

-Aedion and Aelin (they haven't seen each other in years!)

-Dorian and Aelin (I can see where your coming from)

-Rowan and Aelin (My baby!!!!People choose this magnificent couple please!)

My opinions are plastered all over the post but I can't help it. Vote with your opinion! But beware,I always try to convert people to my shipping!


Jess S My First vote is for Ship Rowan & Aelin.
My Follow up...shall we call it my VP choice (or as my brother-in-law would say 1st place loser) is:
Dorian & Aelin.


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Dagmawit Yay! Mine is the same. I have no need too take you out of the dark because you already have a tan from basking in the light!


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Dagmawit Jess S wrote: "OMG I dont know if I could take another of her boy toy losses...I'm prepared to Choal to bite the dust...maybe even Dorian, but not Rowan. I'm with Dagmawit I dont know if i could survive it. Sam w..."

I hope she never has to put us in that situation.


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Dagmawit Christy wrote: "I was clicking around on Youtube and stumbled across an interview with Sarah J. Maas in which she stated that Caleana "has chosen at this point" (referring to Queen of Shadows).

This is a sign!!!!Rowan is the only dude who can accept aelin for who she is without being a total stoker! There is no civilized debate Sarah only the fact that AELIN+ROWAN is real.



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Dagmawit so far all voters have chosen rowan+aelin!YAY!(but there was only 2 and one was myself...ugh)I really want to hear your opinions and your cases. Debate is an important part of society! We have different OTP's but we're all fans who want The Queen of Shadows to be available already! So lets hear those votes!!!


Jess S I have a question...Aedion is full blood fae male? If human form is Aelin's animal version what do you think Aedions is?


Ovidio Perez Dagmawit wrote: "my last comment had no train of logic or thought it was all over the place. (huh, its like the way I rant)Can everybody vote on what shipping they want please? I want to know where everybody stands..."

I'll always ship Aelin x Rowan together they so fine for each other... <3


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Dagmawit Thank you Misaki! Also I think Aedion is a fae with no powers or transformations. Rowan's OLD MATE was full fae but she couldn't shift so I think its the same foe Aedion. Either that or he isn't full fae. Also thank you both for voting!!!


Mikaela Whilst I am not opposed to the idea of Calaena and Rowan becoming a couple I do ship Chaol and Calaena really hard. I do see the point in some peoples arguments about Chaol not being able to accept Calaena's powers/heritage but at the end of a Crown of Midnight he said he loved her. As well as at the end Heir of Fire he chose Dorian over the king despite knowing that Dorian has fae powers and that magic has been banished with severe consequences. So to me that shows immense growth in character on Chaol's behalf and that he can come to accept Calaena fully for who she is. Another reason why I believe Calaena and Chaol could still end up together is because whilst Calaena is in Doranelle she doesn't let herself think about Chaol because she needs to stay focused on what she must do.


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Dagmawit HY 360 I love your comment! Mikaela I can see where your coming from because of your numerous points but he did choose the king over her. It's also hard to digest as a fan for aelin to choose choal the dude who killed her best friend. The fact that he has to make himself love her for who she is also bothers me. That's a big reason why I love Rowan he accepted her for who she was and instead of giving her a bowl of ice cream he gave her the push she needed because he knew what it felt like. I also think they have a better bond because it took forever for her to connect


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Dagmawit with choal while she seemed happier in half the time with rowan. Everybody has their own opinions and I respect that but I need my ship to get bigger. So I shall convince till I drop. PLease comment back, I just love debates and I like hearing your ideas. Also rock on my rowan+aelin sisters/brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Dagmawit HY360 wrote: "Team Rowan!! I'm hoping Ms. Maas will elaborate more on: 1. Why Rowan smells like pine and snow (Aelin also mentioned her homeland smelling of pine and snow :) 2. WHY and HOW he knew that Aelin's n..."

That's right!!!!!! Rowan and Aelin forever!!!!


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Rabbit Queen I have this feeling.... that Aelin and Chaol will end up together.
Just a feeling.

Which, I think, is kinda terrible. I had an issue with him NOT accepting her as who she is. In the previous book, not only did he break her heart, but also stay away from her because magic/fae/enemy etc. He's faaar too loyal and used to the no magic court and life.
He supports Dorian and is loyal to him beyond anyone else.
From what I understood (or how I read), Chaol only began to accept her and see her after Dorian's little speech to pick a side.

Chaol would have to go through some serious character development. Not to mention, it would be a little out of character for him to FULLY accept Aelin in a book or so.

And idk. He kinda seems weak.
Emotionally.
Captain of the guard squeamish when it comes to killing?
Aelin has killed and will kill many more. I think she needs someone to balance that and to understand her.
AhemROWANahem.

Dorian def sailed off.
He and Aelin will prolly remain friends and keep their kingdoms close.

Now as for Rowan.
TRUE that he already had a mate.
And that there was really nothing steamy between them in this book.
But judging by his actions alone... I think he does or is starting to love her.
He is loyal to her.
He does complement her in many beautiful ways.
He does challenger her and care for her.

Oh, oh!
And that one scene. Where Aelin had issues with female demi-fae checking out Rowan. The possessiveness....

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING BUT THATS SOMETHING
sdfjgnk

Personally, I think that true/real (whatever ya wanna call it) love begins with loyalty and friendship.
Chaol has never exactly put her first.
He never really will. It will always be Dorian or his country.
Again, there was nothing steamy between Aelin and Rowan, seriously. Look at how they talk to each other. The things they notice about each other. Their closeness.

Aelin definitely grew in this book.
She reminded me of a horny teen. She got Dorian, kissed him, then went off to Choal. Now, I'm not denying that she have ever loved him. She did. But that was Celaena. Not Aelin.
Not that I had an issue with that. I LOVED how she didn't just love one person, but many. She definitely grew throughout the books; from a lost teen girl, to a killer queen. Literally.

Idk. I really wish it would be Rowan.
But if it's Choal... whatever.
Life will go on.
Maybe third times the charm?

Longish!
Sorry!
Just finished the book!

Ps:
Who did Aelin tell her life story to??
Rowan.
Because she KNEW he would understand and accept her.
I think that if she told Chaol. He'd only sympathise, but not fully understand what she went though and why she couldn't embrace her true identity, other than for obvious reasons.

Basically: Aelin needs someone who is not only supportive and understanding, but someone who matches her in strength, emotion, and mind,

Lastly:
Rowan and Manon? Another feeling.... but I'm reallllllyyyy hoping that it won't be the case.
However, those two would kick such ass.


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Dagmawit Peeta don't lose hope!!!!! Author's usually give into the biggest shipping! Rowan has to get out the friend zone and he will have a chance to in the book after the Queen of Shadows!!! Choal is dead meat in my eyes he is not strong enough to be with aelin and forced love isn't real love. Thanks for voting and in my rule book that still counts for rowan+aelin. Tell me if I'm wrong.


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Dagmawit please vote guys!!!!! Also rowan+aelin are always looking for new shippers!


Tally I enjoyed Heir of Fire so much because Aelin was alone. I prefer them NOT in a romantic relationship. I prefer her alone and it's best she stays that way until this war with the king is over beceause I don't want her to hurt from losing anyone just because the King will definitely target someone she loves, just like they did Sam.


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Dagmawit Tally wrote: "I enjoyed Heir of Fire so much because Aelin was alone. I prefer them NOT in a romantic relationship. I prefer her alone and it's best she stays that way until this war with the king is over beceau..."

but she wasn't alone!!!! She felt support from Rowan through every problem she faced and she was grateful for it. She even admitted Rowan was the first dude she could ever open so much too and she gets jealous when he is with other females. These are all signs that she has feelings for him and he is boyfriend quality. Thank you for your opinion but this is my OTP and I've got to preach!


Ovidio Perez Dagmawit wrote: "Tally wrote: "I enjoyed Heir of Fire so much because Aelin was alone. I prefer them NOT in a romantic relationship. I prefer her alone and it's best she stays that way until this war with the king ..."

Preach, preach, preach the truth girl omen lol... x'D


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Dagmawit Thank you Misaki!! I can always rely on you for support when it comes to our shipping. I hope beyond hope that she chooses rowan! My sister checked on tumbler and here are the sad results = choal- 70 percent, Aedion-20 percent, Rowan 9 percent, Dorian 1 percent. A deserter who only pity's himself and a loving stalker is beating us!(No offense Aedion and I meant every word about choal) If anything this the best time to preach rowan+aelin shippers!!!!! Sorry for the poor rant but Rowan and Aelin have been through way to much pain and they are the only ones who can truly understand each other that well. Also people please vote!!! Don't be afraid of me stomping down your ideas and opinions! I really do love them it's just that I'm only trying to grow my ship. Debate is wonderful, so if I counter your points just counter mine. It's always best to check both sides of a coin before you bet on it! This post has no sense of direction like all my other posts but its still understandable so post,post,post please!


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Dagmawit You think the last comment would give a hint. Please vote and for all the people who did THANK YOU. Also those who have changed their ships may ship again!!! Also can anybody show me where to get a free Queen of Shadows PDF without having to get an acount. That would be so awesome!!! I can't get any books till late October and I really don't want to miss some Aelin action.(As long as she doesn't get any relationship progress with anybody that's not Rowan)So overall please vote and if you have Queen of Shadows please benefit an in need fan. Why September 1st!! You kill many.


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Dagmawit I'm ashamed of you guys. Defend your ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or at least vote!


Ovidio Perez Rowan and Aelin for life!!! <3


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Dagmawit Misaki wrote: "Rowan and Aelin for life!!! <3"

Yeah!!!!


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Dagmawit I would expect more comments the closer we got to the release date.


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Dagmawit Be true fans and ship your ships like crazy by posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Dagmawit Is there a week long no posting holiday? Well I will post AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AELIN+ROWAN,AND WAIT FOR IT AELIN+ROWAN,!!!!ALL I WANT IN A PERFECTLY composed manner.(With no grammer ha!!!)


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