Hoover, Colleen- Ugly Love: Relaxed Buddy Read; Start date November 15, 2014

[Ezi]

Skandia wrote: "I had the same questions about Tate during the first part of the book. Sometimes young girls can be naive and think that they can change a man but she wasn't that young and had some bad relationshi..."

Yep. what galls me is that she went in KNOWING she wanted more than sex. She knew!!!!

[Ezi]

Why is she settling for "nothing"? That's what I need help to understand. She is okay with that. She seems like a bright girl. She wants more so bad. Why doesn't she believe she deserves more?

[✿~Danielle~✿]

That's what I couldn't understand

[Kimberly]

I've just completed chapter 10. I'm listening to the audiobook - which I actually don't recommend. The narrator for Miles' chapters is really annoying and I can't imagine anyone (especially Tate) liking him.

I'll read through some of the spoilers that are identified as before Chapter 10 - but I might just skim through the rest of the discussion. Some of the recent comments make me think I know what happens in the end and, of course, I'd rather find out as I read instead.

Thoughts up to Chapter 10:

(view spoiler)[ The arrangement between Miles and Tate has just been set up. It seems to me that Tate is thinking optimistically about what could happen between them - while Miles just wants a physical relationship with no strings attached. That makes little sense to me since he is obviously a romantic person - based on his affection for Rachel. Maybe Tate will sway him to change his mind?

The hand stitching incident upsets me. I realize Tate is a qualified nurse - but hands are so delicate and so important to have heal correctly. She was clearly distracted during the repair too. A good nurse would have insisted Miles go to the hospital. And if she didn't have the backbone for it, surely her parents should have taken the initiative to ensure Miles received proper care. (hide spoiler)]

[Ezi]

I am liking the audio actually.

I will try to keep my comments under spoilers so I don't ruin things for you.

[Skandia]

The way this book is written, especially the Miles' chapters, is partly visual and I don't think this makes a good audiobook at all. It can't be the same feel.

I can imagine that Miles' chapters sound weird in audio but they are beautiful in writing.

[Ezi]

Skandia wrote: "The way this book is written, especially the Miles' chapters, is partly visual and I don't think this makes a good audiobook at all. It can't be the same feel.

I can imagine that Miles' chapters s..."

I enjoy the Miles chapters on audio. they sound like he is skipping around and his head is in the cloud etc.
It's light and happy

whereas Tate's chapters have this uncertain tone to it. It's like a person trying to Fake it until you make it.

I only have 2 hours left.

[Skandia]

This "liquid thing" with Tate irritated me.

[Ezi]

Skandia wrote: "This "liquid thing" with Tate irritated me."

Me too.
I'm on chapter 29 (view spoiler)[ Tate just asked him if he was an only child. He got irritated. His dad called and Tate realized she knew nothing about him whereas he has met her family, her childhood home, her full name etc.
She doesn't even know if he is an only child.

She just said she is still sleeping with for the sole reason of waiting until he falls in love with her. And she knowingly lies to him that she is fine with the situation.

I have a hard time foreseeing any tears here. Right now, Tate is making me cringe with her liquidness--lack of backbone---lack of expectations-- (hide spoiler)]

[Skandia]

Oh, I didn't cry for Tate.

[Ezi]

HOLD ME BACK!!!!
(view spoiler)[ Did this MO-FO just say "I know she's hurting, but she doesn't know pain...not like I know it."

I am about to get my girls and drive to his house and we will kick his ass. WHAT? How dare you? I got your pain right here, you punk.

Listen, what happen to you was shitty but doesn't give you the right to purposefully crap on someone else. He knew TATE was falling for him.

I want to kick his ass so bad! Y'all go ahead and put together my bail money because it's going down (hide spoiler)]

[Ezi]

I am finished. Can someone tell me where I was supposed to cry? I missed it :(

[Sonia]

Ezinwanyi~the Troublemaker wrote: "If Miles didn't think what he was doing was wrong and as he claimed "Rachel is a grown woman", then why was he sneaking behind Corbin's back.

He knew what he was doing was F'd up--hence the sneak..."

You mean Tate, right?

[Ezi]

Sonia wrote: "You mean Tate, right? ..."

which part? I am so discombobulated right now. I need to read something smutty.

I need time before I write a review

[Sonia]

Smutty? Chapter 5 of cut&run :P

I started the series re-read and I'm doing it slooowly :-)

I am proud of me. So far.

[Ezi]

Sonia wrote: "Smutty? Chapter 5 of cut&run :P

I started the series re-read and I'm doing it slooowly :-)

I am proud of me. So far."

Lol. What part of my post did you mean re post 113

[Kimberly]

I'm on Chapter 29 now.

I'm still not loving the audio. The way the narrator says 'Rachael' is cringeworthy. And he says it A LOT.

(view spoiler)[ I get that every relationship has a part in forming how a person approaches the next relationship(s) - but I still don't understand Miles' dichotomy. He's obviously into Tate. Why can't he just go with it? I don't understand the deprivation approach. Sure he'd be cautious but this is extreme.

The scene where he stormed off and shut the door, leaving her so vulnerable was awful. Surely he should have apologised better. Ugh

(hide spoiler)]

[Ezi]

Kimberly wrote: "I'm on Chapter 29 now.

I'm still not loving the audio. The way the narrator says 'Rachael' is cringeworthy. And he says it A LOT.

I get that every relationship has a part in forming how a perso..."

@kimberly: but isn't the behavior consistent with the agreement? (view spoiler)[ isn't wanting to be held sort of like bonding as in "Sex with expectations?" (hide spoiler)]

[Kimberly]

I agree that it is the 'agreement' - but both parties seem to feel contrary to the nonchalant front they have tried to put up. They say 'I want to be aloof' but then they feel far from aloof.

At 23-24 years of age, they're still young but I guess I'd just expect them to be a bit more honest about how they really feel, rather than trying to maintain a dishonest (and probably unnecessary) front.

[Ezi]

Kimberly wrote: "I agree that it is the 'agreement' - but both parties seem to feel contrary to the nonchalant front they have tried to put up. They say 'I want to be aloof' but then they feel far from aloof.

At ..."

What I baffles me is that her internal monologue is VERY clear about what she wants. So I don't get why she continues on this path

[Kimberly]

I'm sure he would respect her more if she walked away from him. That'd be the way to test his feelings and give her the opportunity to start to get over him if it really is going nowhere.

I've got about 2 hours left. Maybe I'll be more compassionate later. :)

[Ezi]

Kimberly wrote: "I'm sure he would respect her more if she walked away from him. That'd be the way to test his feelings and give her the opportunity to start to get over him if it really is going nowhere.

I've go..."

I thought about that...I don't know if he would respect her more, but it may force him to do something uncomfortable (view spoiler)[ like truly face his own feelings about Love and relationships.
Her silence is aiding him in NOT confronting his demons though I don't even know if he is ready to do so.

She can't really control him but she can control herself and It bugs me that she cedes all power to him. Heck, even sex is a give and take. If you are going to climb on top of me, I should at least know your full name and stuff. Damn!
This ain't Rent-a-Ho (hide spoiler)]

[Kimberly]

Ezinwanyi~the Troublemaker wrote: "Kimberly wrote: "I'm sure he would respect her more if she walked away from him. That'd be the way to test his feelings and give her the opportunity to start to get over him if it really is going n..."

Your spoiler: Hahaha! :)

[Ezi]

Kimberly wrote: "Ezinwanyi~the Troublemaker wrote: "Kimberly wrote: "I'm sure he would respect her more if she walked away from him. That'd be the way to test his feelings and give her the opportunity to start to ..."

She nickle and dimed herself out

[Kimberly]

I've finished the book.

(view spoiler)[ I like Rachael best out of the lot of them. She's by far the most healthy. I'm glad the book had a happy ending - but am not at all surprised it took Rachael to sort Miles out. He was seriously hanging on to her.

I'm kind of perturbed that Rachael named her kid Claire - seems that should have been reserved for Miles and her kids but alas, I guess that was a name she was going to hang onto, no matter who her baby daddy.

(hide spoiler)]

[Ezi]

Kim,
Claire is her grandma's name so it belongs to her.

Re your spoiler, of course it takes Rachael because everything is better...with Rachael. That's why I question who had more of his heart...and the sheer intensity of his love

[Renee]

I finally got hold of a copy of this, then got so busy reading it I forgot there was a buddy read thread. I just finished chapter 19.

I'm curious to find out what exactly happened 6 years ago that is building up in Miles backstory. Lots of steamy romance. Fun read so far.

[Renee]

Just finished.
I liked how the majority of the book was in current time and the 6 years ago bits were short snippets. (view spoiler)[It threw me for a bit when we got Rachels POV for a chapter, but it was nice to get to know her better too. (hide spoiler)]

I had a friend who was in a "no strings attached" relationship. She kept complaining to me when he wouldn't commit, which frustrated me because he was very clear about that from the beginning. (view spoiler)[I'm glad Tate wasn't whiny about not getting what she really wanted. I can't understand why she put up with it for so long. I'm glad it all worked out in the end. (hide spoiler)]

I felt emotional a few times through the book, but not to the point of tears.