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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...Correct title :
La littérature française au présent: héritage, modernité, mutations
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...Correct title : Allégorie des poètes, Allégorie des philosophes. Etudes sur la poétique et l'herméneutique de l'allégorie de l'Antiquité à la Réforme
Author 2 : add (Editor)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...Correct title : Les poètes de la modernité. De Baudelaire à Apollinaire
(modification 30.9.2019)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Correct title : L'institution de la littérature. Introduction à une sociologie
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...Correct title : La Société conquise par la communication. 2. La communication entre l'industrie et l'espace public
Correct Author : Bernard Miège
More recent cover and description :
https://www.pug.fr/produit/564/978270...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...Description in French :
http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GAL...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...Cover and description :
http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GAL...
combine with https://www.goodreads.com/work/editio...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...Description in French :
http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GAL...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Complete title : Imageries. Littérature et image au XIXe siècle
Cover and description :
https://www.amazon.fr/Imageries-Litt%...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Correct title : Histoire du rire et de la dérision
Cover and description :
https://www.amazon.fr/Histoire-rire-d...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7...Complete title : La pénultième est morte. Spectrographie de la modernité. (Mallarmé, Breton, Beckett et quelques autres)
Author : Jean-Michel Rabaté
Cover and description : http://www.champ-vallon.com/jean-mich...
Hi André, I wanted to reply to your message, but it appears that you don't accept messages.I am taking a break from this project. Every time I tried to catch up with the requests, you responded by posting a whole new bunch, and it started to feel like a Sisyphean task. Very discouraging, especially since nobody else is helping out anymore.
I'm sorry!
Hi Lethe. I fully understand. I am sorry for adding so many corrections and this is exactly why I would prefer make the corrections by myself. I have contacted the GR team to try to understand why my application remains without answer. Thank you anyway for your contribution.
André wrote: "Hi Lethe. I fully understand. I am sorry for adding so many corrections and this is exactly why I would prefer make the corrections by myself. I have contacted the GR team to try to understand why ..."It takes time to approve librarian status. The answer they will give you is to be patient, as it depends on staff workload and how many people have applications pending. Your involvement in the librarian group is a positive one toward becoming a librarian, from what I have heard in other threads (though we have no insight into the approval process).
The books being in French and the lack of librarians wanting to pick up a daunting project with hundreds of posts could definitely be part of the reason no one has responded lately. Some of them may be working on their own projects. If I were you, I would just take a break from posting for a little while.
(I have other threads I am committed to already or I would help as well.) Your knowledge of a language other than English is also a positive step toward becoming a librarian, just in my opinion.
Emily wrote: "André wrote: "Hi Lethe. I fully understand. I am sorry for adding so many corrections and this is exactly why I would prefer make the corrections by myself. I have contacted the GR team to try to u..."Thank you for your coment, Emily.
I will continue anyway to continue to list my proposals for correction as I wish to complete my project of catalogue as soon as possible.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...Complete title : L'oeil vivant. Corneille, Racine, La Bruyère, Rousseau, Stendhal.
Description in French : http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GAL...
Edition : Édition augmentée en 1999
First publication : 1961
Combine with :
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...Publication of this edition : 1964:10/16 not 1966
First publication of the text : 1948
The current description is related to one other publication (Encyclopedia Universalis).
Correct descruption on the publisher website :
http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GAL...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Correct title : L'éditeur et son double; Carnet - 2.
Publisher : Actes Sud
Publication : 1990
Cover and description : https://www.actes-sud.fr/catalogue/li...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...ISBN is wrong.
Correct ISBN is : 2707310514
Once corrected, please add the ISBN 2707310255 to :
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
(Source : my own copies of the two books).
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...Correct title : Le fantastique
Publisher : Ellipses
Date of publication : 2001
Pages 160
Cover and description :
https://www.amazon.fr/fantastique-Val...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...Complete title : Le Romancier et la machine: L'image de la machine dans le roman français (1850-1900). II. Jules Verne - Villiers de L'Isle Adam
Cover : https://www.amazon.fr/Romancier-machi...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...Title : delete (Les Dossiers Belfond)
Date of publication : 1989
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7...Please change cover. The current cover is for the original edition. Cover of the French edition : https://www.amazon.fr/JUDITH-GAUTIER-...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...Correct title : Anatole France. Un sceptique passionné
Date of publication : 1984
Edition language : French
Cover and description :
https://www.amazon.fr/Anatole-France-...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Correct title : Un fantôme dans le kiosque: Mallarmé et l'esthétique du quotidien
Format : Paperback
Cover : https://www.amazon.fr/fant%C3%B4me-da...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...Cover and description :
http://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GAL...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...Correct title : Lautreéamont. Du lieu commun à la parodie
Author : Claude Bouché
Publisher : Larousse
Date of publication : 1974
Pages : 254
Cover : https://www.amazon.fr/Lautreamont-com...
André wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...Correct title : Les poètes de la modernité: de Baudelaire à Apollinaire"
The accent marks in your text are not quite right. It may look correct on your computer, but it seems to use a different character-encoding than what this site prefers, and looks distinctly wrong on my computer.
Better: "Les poètes de la modernité : de Baudelaire à Apollinaire"
(I think that a space both before and after the colon is normal in French, even though there isn't one before the colon in modern English.)
GR librarian manual doesn't cover the case of a hyphenated first name, so I'm never sure whether to follow French convention or English. A really tough case is J.H. Rosny Aîné
In French it is often J.-H. Rosny aîné, but on this site I suspect they prefer it without the hyphen.
It is extra tough because it is a pseudonym and was used by at least two people (father and son, real name Boex) and sometimes on published editions appears without "aîné" (meaning Sr.) added. And since most of his work is public domain, cheap editions with wrong names are common. For him, I mostly just leave it as I see it!
# message 341Ed wrote: "André wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
Correct title : Les poètes de la modernité: de Baudelaire à Apollinaire"
The accent..."
Ed, thank you for the comment. You are right on the rule of space befiore the :. As a matter of fact, after modernité, there should be a single point and not a double, as there is a capital on the De. I have modified my request for correction.
Ed wrote: "GR librarian manual doesn't cover the case of a hyphenated first name, so I'm never sure whether to follow French convention or English. A really tough case is J.H. Rosny Aîné
In French it is of..."
I cannot speak for GR but the international standard is J.-H. Rosny aîné. See : https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/c...
Ed wrote: The accent marks in your text are not quite right. It may look correct on your computer, but it seems to use a different character-encoding than what this site prefers, and looks distinctly wrong on my computer.I am really concerned by what you told me here. The display is indeed correct on my computer but if it is not correct in US, does it means that the GR software provides different results according to the prefered language used ? Part of the problem anyway with a lot of titles of books in French is that no accent at all appear.
Ed wrote: "André wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...Correct title : Les poètes de la modernité: de Baudelaire à Apollinaire"
The accent..."
Yes, for me they look odd as well*. The accented e's and a appear smaller than the other letters, whereas they look fine in the title that Ed typed.
*But only in that title/comment (#310). Accents in other comments look fine. Maybe you copied the title from somewhere, André?
Ed wrote: "In French it is often J.-H. Rosny aîné, but on this site I suspect they prefer it without the hyphen."If the first name has a hyphen, it should be added with a hyphen (and the first letter of the last name should be capitalized 😉 )
lethe wrote: "Ed wrote: "André wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...Correct title : Les poètes de la modernité: de Baudelaire à Apollinaire"
..."
I probably copied and pasted the title form the original input to be corrected and made the usual corrections to the capitals. This is also why I missed the D. I should be more attentive, also when one of the author is one of my best friends.
lethe wrote: "Ed wrote: "In French it is often J.-H. Rosny aîné, but on this site I suspect they prefer it without the hyphen."If the first name has a hyphen, it should be added with a hyphen (and the first le..."
Yes, but in J.-H. Rosny aîné, aîné is not the last name... This is just the distinction with J.-H. Rosny jeune. https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/c...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...Publisher : Ministère des Affaires étrangères - adpf
Pages : 56
Cover : https://www.goodreads.com/photo/user/...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Correct title : Mallarmé ou l'obscurité lumineuse
After both authors, add (Direction)
Format : Paperback
Pages : 384
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...Uncorrect ISBN for this book.
The ISBN is for https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4... (page 4 and cover page 4 of this book)
lethe wrote: "... If the first name has a hyphen, it should be added with a hyphen."Yes, but there is no first name! The pseudonym only has initials, usually written in French as J.-H. I'm aware of the standard spelling in the real world, but this site has rules of it's own which they enforce. The rules don't seem to specify to keep or remove the hyphen.
One of the men using those initials was indeed named Joseph Henri Honoré Boex, so J-H could mean Joseph-Henri, but in his real name he spelled it with no hyphens and in the pseudonym he added one.
And as pointed out, "aîné" is not his last name, but is an equivalent of "Sr.", and is not usually capitalized in French. I'm trying to follow the guidelines about how "Sr." and "Jr." are treated.
Fixing stuff for this guy would be tricky. GR rules require using the exact name(s) printed on the title page, even if they are a pseudonym, and even if they are spelled wrong! (We are allowed to also include a link to another profile with the more common spelling in such cases.)
As I said, I mostly just leave things from this guy alone. When I see an obviously wrong one, I may combine it with the existing profile, but otherwise I just let it be. Too confusing! It is often unclear which works were from "aîne" or "jeune" or both writing together.
This guy could be a discussion thread all of his own, so I'll stop it here.
André wrote: "Ed wrote: 'The accent marks in your text are not quite right....'I am really concerned by what you told me here. The display is indeed correct on my computer but if it is not correct in US, does it means that the GR software provides different results according to the prefered language used ? ..."
Most websites these days use Unicode encoding. (I think that includes this one.) But if you copy data from a different website, or a different program, it might be using a different encoding. It is tricky! The phenomenon is called Mojibake.
The problem was only in #310. For me, Window machine using Firefox, the è looks like an 'e' without any accent followed by a second character representing the accent. Similar for the à. All your other messages that I've seen look correct, though. Just that one case.
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Correct title :
L'Europe des revues (1880 1920). Estampes, photographies, illustrations
Correct names of the directors of publication :
Author 1 : Evanghélia Stread (Direction)
Author 2 : Hélène Védrine (Direction)
Delete : (not credited on cover neither on title page) :
Jean-Pierre Bacot,
Charles Grivel,
Collectif
Cover and description on publisher website :
https://sup.sorbonne-universite.fr/ca...