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André wrote: "As the books are in French, I use the French terminology rather than the English one."We really prefer the English terminology.
lethe wrote: "André wrote: "As the books are in French, I use the French terminology rather than the English one."We really prefer the English terminology."
But I thought the Golden Rule was to reproduce what is on the cover... And I am sure the authors, publishers and readers will prefer to have it in the original language.
André wrote: "But I thought the Golden Rule was to reproduce what is on the cover..."Titles, author names, yes.
For author roles etc. uniformity is preferred. (Roles may be added in the original language, but it helps if they are clear for everybody.)
André wrote: ""sous la direction de" is one of the French equivalent of "Editor"."I was wondering if it was normal that there were several editors (and you answered that too, thank you). Also, "sous la direction de" is more like "edited by", which would seem strange too if used as a role description as it refers to the book rather than the person. I can't find a word that would work here (note to non-French speakers: "éditeur" means "publisher", so it wouldn't work at all).... but apparently we're supposed to use the English word anyway?
In French "sous la direction de" is rather classical. It refers to the editorial process and of course not to the person. We do not like to much the "édité par" as édition is mainly used with the idea of publishing rather than editing.Personaly, I would prefer the French wording beeing kept, but as you are a GR librarian you would better follow the rules as remembered by Lethe, who is a strict guardian of the orthodoxy.
I wasn't able to find anything in the Librarian manual that would state if the language used for author roles must be English or if other languages are okay, so I don't know if it's a rule or a preference. For now, I leave things as they are because I'm scared of doing something wrong and receive reproaches from more experienced librarians.#111 done
(Here, "éditeur" was used for "editor", which is definitely not right.)
#112 title corrected, translators and description added
Not sure what word should be used for the person who wrote the "présentation".
#111 done(Here, "éditeur" was used for "editor", which is definitely not right.)
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As a matter of fact, there is more and more tolerance in French on this point. See for exemple in the article of Le Monde where Jean-Yves Tadié is qualified of "biographe et éditeur de Proust", which means that he was the editoir of Proust works in La Pléiade.
#112 title corrected, translators and description added
Not sure what word should be used for the person who wrote the "présentation".
This is a good example of a nuance that exist in the French language (and also why in general in French it is preferable to use a word describing the action rather than a name to describe the person who perform this action. We will never use préfaceur, introducteur, présentateur... You may imagine "auteur de la préface" or "auteur de l'introduction" but, in French, this is long an redondant.
THE LIST OF CORRECTIONS TO BE DONE STARTS NOW AT MESSAGE #120https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
(Message updated the 22th October 2019)
Valerie wrote: "#115 done"Thank you Valerie
Hello dear GR LibrariansA kind remember that this thread is not yet completed.
Corrections to be done start at #116
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
#116 done#117 done
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Valerie wrote: "#116 done#117 done
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Thank you Valérie. List of corrections to be done start now at #120
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
#120 done#121 done
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Valerie wrote: "#143 done#144 done"
Thank you for allthis work, Valérie.
Re message #148 for this bookhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
I have corrected the title, but I cannot find the alternative cover on your profile page.
Valerie wrote: "Re message #148 for this bookhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
I have corrected the title, but I cannot find the alternative ..."
Thank you Valerie
Sorry I should have deleted too early. The cover is available on Amazon. https://www.amazon.fr/Essais-Critique...
I am happy to plod through these corrections André. Can you please tell me what you mean by AIC? I want to make sure I do the right thing!And specifically, for message #148, with the cover you provided in a link, should this be added as a different edition, or as an alternate cover edition with the ISBN moved?
Valerie wrote: "And specifically, for message #148, with the cover you provided in a link, should this be added as a different edition, or as an alternate cover edition with the ISBN moved? "The edition on Amazon has a different ISBN to the edition on Goodreads that André linked to, so it is not an ACE. ISBN 0785906622 is not yet in the database.
Valerie wrote: "I am happy to plod through these corrections André. Can you please tell me what you mean by AIC? I want to make sure I do the right thing!Sorry, my mistake. AIC is in reality ACE (Alternatice Cover Edition).
And specifically, for message #148, with the cover you pr..."
I am not currently at home, but this cover is the same as my own edition.
#151 - #174 done
#55 done#177 - #190 done
Valerie wrote: "#151 - #174 done"Thank you Valérie. Great job. It seems that you have skip #162
Valerie wrote: "#55 done#177 - #190 done"
Thank you again !
#162 done#192 - #203 done
All done up to #228
Valerie wrote: "All done up to #228"Thank you Valérie. What a patience !
Valerie wrote: "All done up to and including #236"Thank you again Valérie. It seems that you skipped #232. I have deleted the #237 and #238. So pending corrections now start at #239.
André wrote: "Valerie wrote: "All done up to and including #236"Thank you again Valérie. It seems that you skipped #232. I have deleted the #237 and #238. So pending corrections now start at #239."
#232 done
Done up to and including #253
Valerie wrote: "Done up to and including #253"Thank you !
#263 links to wrong coverOtherwise all done up to and including #290
Valerie wrote: "#263 links to wrong coverOtherwise all done up to and including #290"
Great ! Thank you again, Valérie
Sorry for the cover 263 that I deleted by mistake. It iks now here : https://www.goodreads.com/photo/user/...
Done up to and including #310For #308, default description is set to Indonesian, so if there is no description, it will default to that. If you could provide me with a description in French, I can replace it.
Valerie wrote: "Done up to and including #310For #308, default description is set to Indonesian, so if there is no description, it will default to that. If you could provide me with a description in French, I can..."
#310. I do not find a publisher description for this valuable book (it really changed my perception of littérature). I suggest the following :
Durable succès de librairie (plus de 100 000 exemplaires), le "Que sais-je ?" de Robert Escarpit (1958) a longtemps été la synthèse de référence sur la sociologie de la littérature.
Plus d'un demi-siècle après sa parution originale, ce livre au caractère manifestaire gagne à être (re)lu. Le lecteur y trouvera un grand nombre de données démographiques, sociologiques, bibliométriques qui montrent qu'Escarpit et son équipe de Bordeaux ont joué un rôle pionnier dans les recherches empiriques sur le livre, la littérature et la lecture. Le lecteur appréciera aussi la première formulation (deux ans avant Jakobson) du processus de transmission du livre et de la littérature comme un phénomène de communication. On y découvrira enfin, mais la liste des apports de Robert Escarpit aux approches socio-historique du littéraire n'est pas close pour autant, de pénétrantes intuitions sur les réappropriations et les réinterprétations des oeuvres du passé par les générations postérieures de lecteurs. (Marc Escola - Fabula).
All done to #400For #348 the ISBN has-been issued twice. I've added a librarian note and put the ISBN in the description (as Goodreads does not allow a double listing of ISBN)
For #364 and #391 the English description is set as default, are you able to provide these in French?
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#104 done
#105 done (but why are the authors listed as "sous la direction de" ?)
Planning to do a few more if my browser's slowness to open new tabs doesn't get worse."
Thanks. "sous la direction de" is one of the French equivalent of "Editor". As the books are in French, I use the French terminology rather than the English one. In this case the lectures by Pierre Bourdieu were published by his colleagues after his death.