Anyone else annoyed by Jem?

[Blair]

So...I realize I sound like a real jerk for saying this but I have to ask: Was anyone else annoyed by Jem? Like beyond the whole Will vs Jem thing. I know he was sweet and kind and good and all that. But the dying thing got old (yeah, I know. I warned you I knew I sounded like a giant douche). And there was just something about him I disliked that I can't put my finger on. And at some point I just wanted him to go away so Will and Tessa could be together. And even when Will and Tessa were together I found myself jealous that she ended up with Jem at the end of the book. I figured that would happen but I would have rather ended the book with Will and Tessa not Jem and Tessa.

[Rachel]

YES. YES, YES, YES. You've said basically everything I felt toward Jem whilst reading this trilogy!

I just wanted him to kind-of fall to the side-lines and let Tessa and Will be. And I just always felt like he was there and... ugh. I'm a hardcore Will fan, as you've probably guessed, and I really didn't mean to dislike Jem, but when he got in the way...

And I was SO annoyed about her ending up with Jem!! The ending of this book REALLY aggravated and upset me. I felt like it almost wasn't fair to Will that she got Jem too. I tried to feel happy for them, but I couldn't be. Why would she want anybody else when she has Will?

I'm SO glad someone has the same opinions as me! I hadn't found anyone else who had up until this point!!

[Blair]

Oh thank goodness! Thats a relief. Now I don't feel so bad. I think you are right and I feel this way because I saw him as just getting in the way of Will and Tessa and Will and Tessa were so perfect for each other in my head. Also I COMPLETELY agree about feeling of it not being fair for Will that she was with Jem in the end. I mean I know the author tried to play it off like they are a part of each other and also that you can love two different people the same but I don't really think I believe that. Her being with Jem in the end just cheapened her love for Will to me. Like she was just buying time with Will till she could be with Jem. As a matter of fact, I know she was supposed to love them the same but throughout the whole book it just seemed like she was so into Jem or at least trying so hard to hide her feelings for Will and I wish Cassandra would have spent more time describing her feelings for Will because they were so obviously there. But it seemed like they were largely ignored and it kept feeling like Will was in the way. And I was like uh heck no its the other way around. That frustrated me a lot.

[AbigailDenyse01]

yep I feel the same way.

[Hannah]

Well I am a hardcore Jem fan, so I obviously didn't find him annoying. And I very much enjoyed the ending with Jem and Tessa.

[Blair]

Abigail Black/ Rowe/ Warner/ Holland/ Shaw/ Cipriano/ Stewart/ Herondale x2 wrote: "yep I feel the same way."

side note: I love your name! Although Idk where Warner, Stewart, Holland come from. Should I be reading those books?! Pls recommend away.

[Blair]

♔ ♕ ♚ ♛Fangirling at its Finest♔ ♕ ♚ ♛ wrote: "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES A MILLION TIMES YEESSS

Well I wasn't really annoyed with Jem, I was just irritated with their relationship. I mean, Will and Tessa should have ended up together in ..."

yes they were so adorable and right for each other. the things will said to tessa, esp what he wrote in the inscription in the copy of tale of two cities he gave her...omg i cant even describe how badly i wish someone would say something like that to me. i said this in another chat and i will say it again. i honestly respect anyones right to be a hardcore jem fan but to us hardcore will fans, jem was just in the way. and anything that was in the way of the beautiful love will and tessa shared needed to be eliminated. whether it was a puppy. a lion. or jem.

[Blair]

♔ ♕ ♚ ♛Fangirling at its Finest♔ ♕ ♚ ♛ wrote: "Blair wrote: "♔ ♕ ♚ ♛Fangirling at its Finest♔ ♕ ♚ ♛ wrote: "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES A MILLION TIMES YEESSS

Well I wasn't really annoyed with Jem, I was just irritated with their relations..."

completely agree! I wanted jem to be happy. but not with tessa. and im sorry cassandra clare i just dont buy that she could love both of them the same. also, i feel like her love for will was true and from the beginning and she only started loving jem AFTER she thought she couldnt have will. like I swear she only said she would marry him because she felt bad for him putting his heart on the line like that and he was dying. and of course she grew to love him, why wouldnt she? he was sweet and kind and charming in his own way. But what she felt for will, that was true love. I always felt like when she described her will for love it was electric. and when she described her love for jem it was kinda like, well hes a good second choice. so of course i wanted her with will and will ONLY!

[Chloe]

FYI ---- Not to make any one mad, but you must read both series to really understand what the author is trying to do. She adds it up nicely between the two series.

[Blair]

Chloe wrote: "FYI ---- Not to make any one mad, but you must read both series to really understand what the author is trying to do. She adds it up nicely between the two series."

I read both. But Im not really sure what you are getting at. Could you please explain?

[Blair]

If you are referring to how she made everything fit together I agree. I think she did a magnificent job doing that. When I read TMI I had some questions at the end and when I read TID I was like omg that fit so well together. She had to be so creative and have so much forethought and planning to make everything fit together so perfectly. But...that still doesn't mean I liked Jem...

[Anum]

I wanted Jem to be with Tessa from the beginning and he was happy with her...he just ended his relation with Tessa because Will was also in love with her..but in the end i was soo happy that Jem and Tessa reunited....

[Lauren]

Totally! Jem did kind of annoy me. I did like him but this sounds heartless but I wished he would die so it would be easier for Will and Tessa

[■©atherine■]

Tessa loved both boys equally. Will loved Tessa and Jem euqally. Jem loced Will and Tessa equally. That's what is special about their relationship.
I'm totally Team Jem from the start. And I don't even like good guys. I'm always Team Villains or Team Bad boys. but there's something about Jem i just can't help but love him. I've never read a character like him. He's just unique and perfect.

[michelle]

I actually feel the same. I'm a hardcore Wessa shipper, and I just didn't like how Jem and Tessa got together in the end. Jem is sweet and all, but I just think Tessa and Jem would have been better off as good friends. Her feelings toward Will seemed more genuine to me. Tessa's relationship with Jem just felt a bit forced. No offence Jessa shippers. No offence. I love Will and Tessa's relationship, but the epilogue just ruined it for me. Jem. Can you just leave us alone? I wanted more Wessa, but it just didn't happen. Wessa is funny and romantic, but Jessa is so intense at times. Everything seems to have a deeper meaning. I can laugh and squeal while reading Will and Tessa's interactions. Jem and Tessa just makes me feel awkward when reading. I like Jem, just not with Tessa. Just my opinion. Sorry if I offended anyone or just sound immature. Just putting it out there.

[Blair]

I completely agree! yay! im happy im not alone in my thinking.

[Nellie ☾]

Old thread but I'm gonna reply :)

As for me, Jem didn't annoy me much at all. It was weird because between him and Will, I was crushing on Jem (like if he was real, I'd just marry him haha) but as for the love story, I was all for Will and Tessa.

[Sara]

I don't know how could anyone be anoyed by Jem...
On the other hand, Tesse has his life and love and children with Will. One part of the story is with Will and the othe one will be with Jem. Both of them deserve it so much. Remember Tessa is inmortal same as Magnus, Alec same as Will and Jem has to die at some point and both of them Magnus and Tessa has to live.
Jem did something so strong and hard to be beside Tessa and Will becoming a Silent Brother.He was there when Will die same as Tessa. Think about all the hard times he has gone through. And as he said Will, Tessa and the children was the only thing made him keep his humanity.

Pd: Sorry I've made some mistake with my english.

[storoshpa]

I loved Jem. I just loved him too much. He never annoyed me. Everyone says Will went through alot losing his sister and the curse and I like Will I like him alot but why is what happened to Jem always ignored he got tortured and injected with some drug that was slowly killing him when he was a child and his parents were killed and right infront of his eyes. And yet he was always so kind, caring and good to others. What Jem went through is always ignored by everyone and everyone thinks Will is this tortured soul, and yeah I agree Will went through alot of bad stuff and I felt bad for him but I always hate how what Jem went through doesn't matter as much. I love Will but I will always be a hardcore Jem shipper and Will already has everyone rooting for him :P
As for who Tessa should have end up with or the whole Jessa and Wessa thing. I always thought this story was about the three of them and how much they loved each other. This was supposed to be a love triangle and it was an amazing love triangle. It made me fall in love with love triangles and showed me what they were about and how they were supposed to be done.

[Chisom]

I can see where you guys are coming from. One true love right? But come on that's just not absolute. Especially in Tessa's case. After Will died, and many of her other loved ones, she must have seen the pain immortality brings. Honestly, if i had the chance of living forever I would most likely have more than just one love. Plus the type of love these three shared must have been something we can't even fanthom. Besides all that, i doubt Jem and Tessa got back together immediately. It must have been a while as they really talked and became deep friends before taking it further. I feel bad for Tessa, since she'll have to go through the deaths of two of the people she holds most dear in her heart, especially since Jem is human again. Sigh, anyway i see where everyones coming from but i really just can't find it in me to find Jem annoying besides him being too perfect.

[Michelle]

I too wanted Will and Tess together. But Jem's storyline just tugged at my heart strings so much. I felt bad for Tessa actually having to make that decision. But I was happy with him becoming a Silent Brother as a way to "save" him in the end. But I secretly wanted more Will/Tessa in the end. Will's character is actually what led me to fall in love with this series and guided me
toward the TMI series after I devoured the Infernal devices. Let's be real....Cassandra Clare has a true gift.....

[Laquitta]

Definitely Will and Tessa. Although, how can you not love Jem. I Was very happy that there was a way for Jem to stay alive. You can tell that the chemistry between Will and Tessa was really strong. I too agree that the decision for Tessa was hard as she loved them both.

[Kacey]

Yes I totally agree with Blair!!! I wish Will and Tessa had more book time together as a couple and not everything was about Jem all the time. I'm happy he didn't die but I just wanted more Will and Tessa.

[Cecily]

Ahah me too! Jem was a kind person and all but I'm a total Wessa shipper so........

[Melinda]

I'm amazed people can read ID and not walk away loving both Jem and Will (and want Jem to die like he's some ancillary character!) And their relationship together is written so beautifully. I like Tessa and think this is one of the best threeway relationships I've ever read. That being said, you can't really have Will without Jem and vice versa. They are a literary yin yang or photo negative; their characters would have been shallower without each other. If I was younger, I'd probably have a major crush on both of them!

[Lizzie]

How can you be annoyed by Jem? WHAT? He was so sweet! Honestly I would have liked Will more, but Cassandra Clare had him be standoffish towards Tessa for too long and Jem was always there, sweet and kind. So by the time Will explained why he had been trying to keep his distance I was already too attached to Jem to FULLY commit to Will and Tessa being a thing...

[Dizzy]

Just say you're a bitter Will fan and move on lol...
Most of CC's readers are young YA readers so a lot of them will feel the same because they love the cliche ~brooding asshole~ love interest. Never mind that the Point of this love triangle was that she loved both EQUALLY..... like, come on kids use yo brains.

[Alissa]

Blair wrote: "So...I realize I sound like a real jerk for saying this but I have to ask: Was anyone else annoyed by Jem? Like beyond the whole Will vs Jem thing. I know he was sweet and kind and good and all tha..."

This is how I felt about Will I do not know why but I'm always like that when I read a book with 2 love interests. Anyways the characters were well written but Jem will always be in my heart <3

[Ida]

Dee wrote: "I loved Jem. I just loved him too much. He never annoyed me. Everyone says Will went through alot losing his sister and the curse and I like Will I like him alot but why is what happened to Jem alw..."

I loved how they handled the whole love triangle. Tessa ended up with exactly who she was supposed to be with at the proper times. She was with Will when he needed her. She loved him and made him a very happy husband. Then when the time was right she was able to be with Jem when they needed each other the most. I love Jem and have no issues with him. The best part is that Will and Jem loved each other. Will loved Jem so much that he let others think badly of him just to save his friends life no matter what it was always to save Jem.