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The much anticipated prequel to bestseller Wool that takes us back to the beginnings of the silo. The full novel which brings together First, Second and Third Shift.

In a future less than fifty years away, the world is still as we know it. Time continues to tick by. The truth is that it is ticking away.

A powerful few know what lies ahead. They are preparing for it. They are trying to protect us.

They are setting us on a path from which we can never return.

A path that will lead to destruction; a path that will take us below ground.

The history of the silo is about to be written.

Our future is about to begin.

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What is a buddy read?

An “Informal Buddy Read” doesn’t have a discussion leader and participants are asked to consider some generic questions when making comments about the book


EXPECT SPOILERS!


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message 3: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Oh I didn't realise this was a prequel. This will be interesting!


message 4: by Kristie (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments I didn't realize it was a prequel either; I assumed it would be a continuation. I agree, it should be interesting. Looking forward to it!


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Topic has been moved to our Buddy Reads folder.


message 6: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Excellent!
Looks like you need a name starting with K to join this read so far.... Haha


message 7: by Sarah (last edited Oct 14, 2014 09:21PM) (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments ...and now an S. I am the one who nominated Wool after all... and The Road by Cormac McCarthy The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger The Knife of Never Letting Go (Chaos Walking, #1) by Patrick Ness We Were Liars by E. Lockhart The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood The House Girl by Tara Conklin and Orphan Train by Christina Baker Kline . I had a good run this year.


message 8: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (daughterofoak) | 3473 comments And an A! I really loved Wool. I'm actually rather impatient to start this one :D.


message 9: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Nice one Sarah - you've been picking some great books this year!!


message 10: by Renee (new)

Renee (reneeconoulty) | 3309 comments I want to read this one too.


message 11: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments I can't wait for this one. I will be joining in.


message 12: by Tawallah (new)

Tawallah | 409 comments Had a good time reading Wool- one of the best book I read in summer. See you guys in a month time.


message 13: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
:)


message 14: by Kelly (new)

Kelly (ladykatala) | 5020 comments Karen wrote: "Excellent!
Looks like you need a name starting with K to join this read so far.... Haha"


I have a K! :)


message 15: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia (cynthiab) I'll be gone when this starts, so I'm posting a little early on the first section.

I've read the First Shift portion, which is through Chapter 23 (view spoiler)

Enjoying it!!!!


message 16: by Kristie (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments I have my Audible version all prepped and ready to go on my phone. I don't know if I'll have much time to get into it on Friday, but I should get started on Saturday, so I might be a day late. I'm looking forward to reading about how the people all ended up living in the silos.


message 17: by Tawallah (new)

Tawallah | 409 comments I am trying to finish up another book before I focus on this book. May be day late but luckily there is a holiday so I can catch up. Hopefully if it's good as Wool it should be fast read.

Looking forward to learning why they ended up in the silos and why the secrecy.


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments Aaaack. I am trying to finish up other books so I am ready to go for this one. I also still have another book to read before this BR. Take a deep breath, I still have a few days right?


message 19: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (poweki) | 1713 comments It's the 28th here in Australia. We start this on the 28th, right?? I'll begin tonight. :)


message 20: by Kelly (new)

Kelly (ladykatala) | 5020 comments Almost available to check out from library. Will start when I get it :)


message 21: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Yep Kimberly!

I started tonight and I've read the first 8 chapters. I have the overdrive ebook and audio

I'm finding it quite interesting so far, the idea of finding out how the Silos came to be is pretty cool and I like the alternating POVs and timelines. It has been a while since I read Wool so none of the names of the characters are familiar to me yet, but maybe others that read Wool recently will pick up on some


message 22: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (poweki) | 1713 comments I've just started. I'm only in Chapter 3. Also doing the audio. I just finished The Likeness, which was spectacular, and I'm struggling to get accustomed to the pace of Shift.

I'm hoping it'll pick up soon.


message 23: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia (cynthiab) I reread Wool just a couple of weeks ago. I don't recognize any of the names. I think it's set in a much earlier time period than Wool, and the history of the silos was so secretive.


message 24: by Kristie (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments I was thinking that it was set much earlier than Wool, hundreds of years maybe. I just barely started. I'm listening to the audio too and hoping for the pace to pick up. It started out a little political, which doesn't hold much interest for me. I'm hoping it becomes more personal soon.


message 25: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia (cynthiab) I stopped and started a couple of times before finally getting far enough in to get interested. It starts out so much slower than Wool, and the story is different too. I do like it, but it was hard not to expect a repeat of Wool. Once I got over that, I was fine and I've been enjoying it.


message 26: by Kristie (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments Thanks, Cynthia. I plan to keep reading, but it's good to know that it just starts out slow.


message 27: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

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I just finished chapter 10 and I think you are right Kristie, that this may be set hundreds of years before Wool. I just went back and checked the Wool BOM thread and they were in silos 17 and 18 in case anyone was wondering the same thing :)

I'm not sure if I missed it on audio, has it been clear why Donald was asked to design the Silos? They mentioned burying the world's nuclear waste, but I'm not sure if there was more stated


message 28: by Kristie (last edited Nov 29, 2014 11:44AM) (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments Donald designed the towers in college, so they were using his original design, but changed to go underground. I'm not as far as you, but I feel like the nuclear waste issue was just an excuse and they know more than they're telling him.


message 29: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (poweki) | 1713 comments I agree about Wool. It started out so grippingly. I too am happy to hear this one just starts off slow. :)


message 30: by Renee (new)

Renee (reneeconoulty) | 3309 comments I started last night too. It is quite political. I am fascinated to find out how it all started though. It is flicking between the time when the silos were built and many years later (I think about 100). All long before Wool was set.


message 31: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Finished the First Shift

This is certainly slower than Wool, but I think it is really interesting and building up to give a good picture of the world.

(view spoiler)

I am enjoying it and keen to learn more about the second shift...

Btw, the audio narrator is very good. He really brings a lot of tension to the scenes


message 32: by Renee (last edited Nov 29, 2014 12:38AM) (new)

Renee (reneeconoulty) | 3309 comments Just finished Chapter 18

The timelines are 2110 living in the Silo and 2052 building the Silo.

@ Karen
(view spoiler)


message 33: by Sarah (last edited Nov 29, 2014 12:47AM) (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments Only first few chapters in, I do think there is an agenda for building these silos that I think the senator may already be aware of but he is just feeding Daniel some hog wash. So Daniel is the engineer, interesting. And then we go forward about 60 years - still not clear what is going on here, but maybe it is the first testing of the Silo?


message 34: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
tsk tsk Renee. You shouldn't read my spoiler until you are done with the first shift!
;)


message 35: by Renee (new)

Renee (reneeconoulty) | 3309 comments @ Karen - I didn't read it until after I wrote mine, then I just peeked a little bit to see if you had picked up what I had.


message 36: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments Renee - it would mean Troy was in his 90s - I am not picturing him that old, because the book did say Danielle was in his thirties.


message 37: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia (cynthiab) Troy/Daniel isn't much older now than he was when they originally entered the silo in 2052(?). A full shift is only 6 months, and I believe they don't age while in cryo.

I'm trying to read full chapters before I set the book down. If I stop in the middle, I have to flip back and check the date to help me keep the right context.

I'm on chapter 60 or 61, and I'm wondering now if (view spoiler)


message 38: by Kristie (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments I'm only 11% in. And I have the same impression as Cynthia. They do a 6 month shift, during which they age. Then, they go into a cryogenic sleep, where they don't age. So, during their planned 10 shifts over a hundred year time period, they would only age about 5 years.

I'm not sure if I haven't gotten to the Troy = Daniel part yet or if I missed something. Guess I'd better just keep reading.


message 39: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments Oh. I haven't gotten there yet, cryogenics could do it.


message 40: by Tawallah (new)

Tawallah | 409 comments I'm still in the early stages of Shift. It definitely is slower than Wool and is more of a prequel. Still trying to figure the connection between 2045 and 2110( time of silo). But I'm still enjoying it.

Like everyone, I definitely don't trust Senator Thurmann.

And the time period is definitely less refined than in Wool, in terms of the food. Even though the use of cryogenics is key for now. Wonder when the women were awoken and when did things start to change?


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Kimberly (poweki) | 1713 comments I'm just starting Ch 22.

I for one am glad about the 'name change' as it helps me to keep track of the time period we are in. With all the flipping back and forth, I'm afraid I'd lose the plot line otherwise.

The pace has definitely picked up - but it's still no comparison to Wool, with a death around every corner.

(I should stop comparing, I know...)


message 42: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (poweki) | 1713 comments I love the title of this book - it's so clever.

The work shifts, the shift to another system/way of life, the other casual references, e.g., 'shift in the weather'...


message 43: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (poweki) | 1713 comments ... The shift to another time via cryogenics, the shifts in time from chapter to chapter...


message 44: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
I agree Kimberly, I think the title is very clever too ;)


message 45: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
I'm a little confused with some of the above comments...Who is Daniel? Does that mean that different regions of the book have Donald's name as Daniel?


message 46: by Kristie (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments From what I can gather Troy is Daniel in certain parts of the book. Maybe different time periods? I don't really know because I haven't gotten to that part yet.


message 47: by Tawallah (new)

Tawallah | 409 comments Think Cynthia meant Donald. The rest of the newcomers haven't gotten that far.

And I see that the Silo One is run completely differently to the rest. It's really hard not to use your old info from Wool. I seem to have put on blinkers based on past experiences. But we kinda do that in life, ingrained behaviour. Makes me wonder if Hugh Howey planned this or is this my viewpoint based on my experiences.


message 48: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Cynthia, Sarah and Kristie are referring to Daniel, but there is no Daniel in my book (I did a search on the ebook too!) which is why I'm wondering if my Donald is their Daniel (kind of like "where's Wally" is "where's Waldo" in the U.S)


message 49: by Kristie (last edited Nov 29, 2014 05:42PM) (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments Wait....so (view spoiler) Either I really missed something or I just haven't gotten to that part. Though, I suppose it could make some sense, if that's the case...

Here are the quotes confusing me:

Cynthia wrote, "Troy/Daniel isn't much older now than he was when they originally entered the silo in 2052"

Sarah wrote, " it would mean Troy was in his 90s - I am not picturing him that old, because the book did say Danielle was in his thirties"

I guess I'm not interpreting these right somehow.


message 50: by Kristie (last edited Nov 29, 2014 05:39PM) (new)

Kristie | 3595 comments Karen wrote: "Cynthia, Sarah and Kristie are referring to Daniel, but there is no Daniel in my book (I did a search on the ebook too!) which is why I'm wondering if my Donald is their Daniel (kind of like "where..."

No....I was questioning who Daniel was. I don't have a Daniel in my book either. I thought maybe I just hadn't gotten far enough.

I have to admit, this thread is quite confusing right now. Can we just clear up the Troy / Donald / Daniel issue?? How many characters are we talking about? Does any one character go by more than one name?


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