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Irritates me to no end. If there's some kind of explanation, no matter how small, I can accept that. Like, they were changed into a vampire and brought back. Okay, fine, I can deal with that.But the kind of brought back explanationt that feels like a slap in the face, as in, fooled you! They never died, they were alive all this time for no reason! And then, just to kill them off again? Not cool. Not cool at all.
yes! I mean why do you tug at my heartstrings so?And you really wouldn't be able to handle the GoT books. I read all the books that are currently available for this series and I'm STILL pissed off and heartbroken from the first stupid book when they (view spoiler)
My friends love thosse books. I still haven't read them, though I would like to see wht the fuss is about. I don't know, I just haven't felt a strong urge.But yeah, I don't like the feeling I'm on the end of an author's emotional yo-yo.
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Another one a guy was mauled by a bear and pretty much dead but no that wasn't good enough for them. They brought him back, had indians nurse him back to health only to have him return back home with brain damage where he was irratic and had to be shot dead...again, really???
Might not be the best example, but this topic pinpointed the problem I had with the TV series Angel. I loved Angel, but I didn't enjoy the direction of the series. Dead, brought back, dead, changed into another creature, dead, brought back. Oh my god...
It's a special kind of torment when it's a character you particualary liked. They are brought back and a certain amount of rejoycing occurs. Then,WHAM! Just kidding, she/he's dead again just to get a rise out of you. Suckers.
I do find myself painfully addicted to the game of thrones books. My heart is broken over and over and over...AND over...
Lily wrote: "Might not be the best example, but this topic pinpointed the problem I had with the TV series Angel. I loved Angel, but I didn't enjoy the direction of the series. Dead, brought back, dead, changed..."FREAKING CORDELIA
I'm having problems watching The Game of Thrones TV show because I'm afraid to get attached to the characters as you never know who's next to die. It's hard to like a show when you can't like anyone.
So to answer your question, YES it bothers me. If you bring them back to life, at least let them live.
I also have problems with the invincible antagonist who no matter how burnt, stabbed, hit by a car, all at once, still comes back and albeit all of that, he (rarely she) is still stronger than the protagonist.
I'm not sure we see that in books, but we see that way too many times in movies.
never turn your back on the body of a recently "killed" antagonist.
Rachel wrote: "FREAKING CORDELIA "Fred was much worse.
Also brings to mind the whole love interest thing. These two, well they are in love. In fact, they are soulmates. Destined! Except now they hate each other. Oh wait, they are back together. "I never stopped loving you."
"Oh good cuz me too."
It's meant to be....
Except that this just isn't working out. They are star-crossed!
"We can never be together!"
"I'm with someone else now! You're brother! Actually, it's your twin brother's dopleganger who has actually been hired to kill you and take your place in society!"
"But I love you!"
"I love you two! But it can never work between us!"
Just kill one of them off already. Lets move on.
lol Maybe we should start a Worst Muse - Dead Character topic lol
I would rather characters be killed off, brought back in interesting ways, and killed off again, than read something where the characters always get out of jams, never die or face any real danger.
I hate that too. Except I hate it more when they kill a character off or just write them out because they couldn't figure what to do with them. Then when they think of something they like, the characters are brought back in, and WHAM! DEAD! F U DEAD! D. E. D! DEAD! it's like damn....asses.....why......my heart....anywho lol I can deal when it's part of a well mapped plan, like the writers know exactly where they are taking it. but when it's a spur of the moment thing, it hurts...lol
Supernatural is really bad about that. Sam and Dean have died so many times it's not funny. And they keep making them other than human and then back to human. How many times can one person die or become a demon?
Honestly, my beef is when people die because of stupid reasons. And then the circumstance bringing them back is equally stupid.Whether I like your or not, if the principles of natural selection killed you (and I'm not talking about zombies) you should stay dead.
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The author or producer doesn't care cause they created the character and they want the shock value. Of course not realizing fans hate it and it makes them cringe and never forget is another thing...
i have a love/hate for supernatural (squee!) and yeah, the whole kill off/bring back to life is annoying. there's only so many ways a person can be undead before the gods have had enough and send that fool back to stardust or something...at least when my characters die, they go out blazing (some kind of awesome death for some kind of awesome reason as i am god and i am awesome) and their asses stay *dead*. unless they're a ghost for *some reason* (regrets, etc) then even my ghosts don't stick around long, like for 1 book. XD
Yep if a character dies then he/she must stay dead, cos if they come back they're zombies and i hate zombies! Unless it's a ghost, don't mind ghosts.Killing characters off that we've grown to love is shock value, but also true to life.(I've known a few people for a short time and liked, then poof they're gone - it happens) It makes reader's emotions see saw and us suckers come back for more.Half the joy of reading a good book is the effect it has on our emotions. I love GoT,and when Ned Stark died I nearly threw a brick at the tv, but i keep going back for more.
Amanda wrote: "Supernatural is really bad about that. Sam and Dean have died so many times it's not funny. And they keep making them other than human and then back to human. How many times can one person die or b..."It was torment for me when they killed the sexy dad and then brought him back...killed him again...we were going to start a new life together!
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In a polar opposite, I liked the first season of American Horror Story but the one thing that drove me nuts was how whenever someone died they didn't actually die and I couldnt tell the dead from the living.
Justin wrote: "In a polar opposite, I liked the first season of American Horror Story but the one thing that drove me nuts was how whenever someone died they didn't actually die and I couldnt tell the dead from the living...."arrrrgh that is such a good point about that season. you really couldn't! but still first season was the best so far. looking forward to the freakshow.
Justin, that happens a lot in game of thrones. You're left feeling like what the hell did you do that for?One of the characters was on a serious role being a f'ing badass and just when you think he was going to be the one to pull it all together...utter chaos like a knife to the gut with no clue who put it there or when it happened. I actually wished for him to be brought back or for someone to tell me that he didn't actually die.
It's the lack of reasons that gets to me. I can totally accept the "this is just life, shit happens" reason. I'm fine that. But when it's a random death, over and over, I'm not fine with that.
Yolanda wrote: "Yep if a character dies then he/she must stay dead, cos if they come back they're zombies and i hate zombies! Unless it's a ghost, don't mind ghosts.Killing characters off that we've grown to love..."
They could come back as vampires. :P
Yeah this really annoys me! I get very invested in characters and get so frustrated when this happens (especially no. 2!). It always happens to my favourites too!
Well . . . anybody seen the new series, "Forever?"
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Renee wrote: "Well . . . anybody seen the new series, "Forever?""I can't wait to see that one, but we're waiting for it to go out on Netflix.
Justin wrote: "There's also always that moment when a character is killed off and your just wishing they did come back to life and you don't care if there's craziness, you love the character and just want them back."For that reasoning I always felt like you got to ask:
1 does it serve the plot
2 does it serve to reinforce the characters
3 can you do it in a way that's plausible within the realms of the book's logic.
And if you can answer yes with a detailed outline of what you want to do, then hellyeah go for it
1. The character hasn't been around for a while either they were written off for a while or in a book sense they just aren't being talked about but will be brought back in the future. Then when they bring them back they kill them off!
Gahh!
2. The character gets a huge push or their background story is built up to the point where your totally into them and think to yourself, yeah..yeah I can really like this character. Then what happens? BAM! They are killed off like it's nothing(clearly I would not like Game of Thrones or so I've heard ;))
Gahhh!!
3. The character is killed but your not mad, you've accepted and respected the decision as they just went out. Then the character is brought back and your even more thrilled but then they are killed yet again, only to be taken out in an even more gruesome way.
Gahhhh!!!!
Does this bother anyone else? Don't get me wrong sometimes characters need to die but when it's from one of the scenarios I just described it just really gets to me and makes it hard for me to accept.