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TEETH IN THE MIST by Dawn Kurtagich: Part 6 - End
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This is the spot to post your thoughts on Part : Beyond the Mountain - End. Feel free to spoil away. If you haven't read this far yet, please turn away or risk being spoilered.
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Holy cow, that crashed to a close! I was kind of banking on Len either being a altered Roan or Roan's daughter. I had some sort of hope that she was Emma reincarnated but I look forward to this promised sequel and Roan's VENGEANCE! ;) This was a lot of fun even if I was dead tired at work today because I was reading until 2am... I left for work at 5am so dead. It's nice to get a chance to get that invested into a book for fun reading again.
But thesis research waits for no woman.. even with a towering TBR.. I'll see what else I can sneak in.
You're done?! I'm not peeking because I'm only on Part 2 but your reading skills are impressive! I'm such a slowpoke.
Well, I found out what happened to Mordley! Holy hell, this book is brutal 😂
So, those who finished - were you left feeling a little confused about things? I think I may have to reread it in paper or, at the very least, give it a relisten. I feel a bit dazed and hazy on my thoughts. Like I've awoken from a fuzzy nightmare. So many horrific things happened in the last section. I think I loved it despite my confusion, haha.
I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-read the last chapter to double-check but nope all the same. I am actually really upset with the outcome of this book I feel as though it could've gone extremely different and been 1000 times better. I expected a lot more.
Also, this left me wanting more witchcraft/witchy books so now I need to go find some to fulfill this craving lol.
Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-read the last chapter to double-check but nope all the s..."Did you read it in paper or audio? I feel like I missed some important things or maybe I was meant to be left confused. I'm not sure.
Bri wrote: "Also, this left me wanting more witchcraft/witchy books so now I need to go find some to fulfill this craving lol."Perfect! Stay tuned. The Ladies of Horror Fiction are working up a list that will be posted to the website soon!
Also WTF was up with Hermoine (view spoiler) I didn't truly understand her reasoning. Was it a deep religious thing? I mean, sheesh. That was harsh!
Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-read the last chapter to double-check but no..." I read a physical copy but also the ARC so I feel like I missed a lot because of it. I kind of want to go get a full copy just to compare.
Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "Also, this left me wanting more witchcraft/witchy books so now I need to go find some to fulfill this craving lol."Perfect! Stay tuned. The Ladies of Horror Fiction are working up a l..."
Oooooo I'm here for this!
Bark wrote: "Also WTF was up with Hermoine [spoilers removed] I didn't truly understand her reasoning. Was it a deep religious thing? I mean, sheesh. That was harsh!"I honestly have no idea what her relation to the entire story was. Like I got it at the end but she was sporadically thrown into the book throughout and it just didn't add up.
Dawn has said that there will be a sequel. There are a lot of loose ends that I hope to see tied together. :)
I read it few month ago, and the end... damned we need the sequel !!!
We definitely need a sequel!
I was kinda meh towards the end. I found Zoeys parts drug on. The reveal of Hermione and her story(not just the diary entries) helped bring me back. I agree that it ended abruptly. I’m not feeling confused, but with others saying they feel like they missed something, I now feel like I missed something because I’m not confused! I enjoyed the twist at the end. I really like that Hermione was watching over her kin. Ok, so I am wondering how Zoey became paralyzed. She wasn’t conjuring.Len was. Alright. I do have confusion!
I’m actually glad it’s over.
So my take... Hermione was reacting to the horror that her husband was Fostos, communing with the the devil, and that's why she "willed" her son to not use the magic without being harmed in some way. However, HOW? Was she magic, too, to achieve this??? Further, why would this "curse for using magic" manifest differently with each person? Zoey's Dad lost memories. Zoey bled. One assumes there were other relatives who had other prices to pay. I figured Len was Roan't relative, but why's Len immortal, too? She didn't make a deal with old Black Peter, did she? And I can't see Roan "selling her daughter."
So, presumably, there will be a sequel wherein Roan and Fostos are joined in an eternal hunt. Once Fostos is destroyed, is Roan released from immortality? She told the devil she didn't give up her soul, yet she'd give him a favor. What was the cost, then? What was she obligated to do? Why would the devil want that terrible wheel destroyed?
Did death give Hermione extra knowledge? How did she know the girls needed to nightwalk to destroy the spiritual wheel? Also, how was she visiting Zoey all those years if she were stuck on the wheel??? I mean, Zoey said the reason there were no ghosts was because they were all stuck on the wheel, captive. I get why the little boy Seamus was able to escape in spirit form to appear before them. He was a special circumstance with a connection to those he visited. HOWEVER, who were the ghosts who attacked Rapley??? Remember, the scene where they broke through his barrier and attacked? Were they ghosts from the wheel, or were they some other kind of ghosts?
And what happened to Jenny? And who was Dr. Maudelin? "Andrew" called him his son, and he said they ate him, but does that work with the timeline? How did Jenny not wonder at the peculiar shape of the meat hanging in the larder??? Um, I would think there'd be a difference in the basic shape of things.
Ok, let me know what you think, please, because I'm still abuzz with questions.
Käthe wrote: "I was kinda meh towards the end. I found Zoeys parts drug on. The reveal of Hermione and her story(not just the diary entries) helped bring me back. I agree that it ended abruptly. I’m not feeling ..."Bark wrote: "We definitely need a sequel!"
I think Zoey was conjuring. Night walking was conjuring. Hermione told her to do so. Hermione lured her kin to the place to end the evil, not from any love for her kin, I think. But how? She's by theory tied to the spiritual wheel, but the design of the book. SO how's she off giving quests to kinfolk? And where did the paralyzation come in, instead of bleeding? The rule was Zoey had to bleed to perform magic - if she lied. So why not keep from lying? Didn't that prevent the whole bleeding bit? So where did the paralyzation come in? It seems contrary to the rules set up in the story.
Poor Pole. How did he end up escaping with his wits, I wonder?
Bri wrote: "Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "Also, this left me wanting more witchcraft/witchy books so now I need to go find some to fulfill this craving lol."Perfect! Stay tuned. The Ladies of Horror Fiction are w..."
A good witchy book would be great for October! I'm so glad I figured out how to participate in these. It's really nice to have people to talk to about the books!
Bri wrote: "Bark wrote: "Also WTF was up with Hermoine [spoilers removed] I didn't truly understand her reasoning. Was it a deep religious thing? I mean, sheesh. That was harsh!"I honestly have no idea what ..."
I think Hermione's big thing was her maternity of the child who escaped Fostos's clutches. That child was an ancestor for Zoey and Zoey's father before her. What's weird is thereafter, Fostos seems to have "one night stands" to father his kids. He kept Hermione around for quite a while and only had her burned after the boy got away. There's also some indication that she was offered as a "scapegoat" not only because the baby escaped but because the locals were finally unhappy about the missing people. He didn't want suspicion to fall on him, so he implicated Hermione and her maid as witches. The maid had a much kinder end. It was at least quick. The description of Hermione's death was grim.
Why was Rapley/Adam allowed to live for so long, do you suppose? Why was he renamed Rapley? Why did the boy go along with having a new name foisted upon him?
Duh! Nightwalking would be conjuring. But it doesn’t explain being paralyzed. Like you said she should have bled. I think Hermione isn’t bound to the wheel like the other ghosts because she was burned. They were sacrificed, and literally bound to the wheel, while Fostos gutted them to prolong his existence.
Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-read the last chapter to double-check but no..."The physical book included pictures, diagrams, black pages with white type, different typefaces, and divergent formatting. It was designed to give a definite "feel." I would imagine the audio would not be able to convey those aspects.
Käthe wrote: "Duh! Nightwalking would be conjuring. But it doesn’t explain being paralyzed. Like you said she should have bled. I think Hermione isn’t bound to the wheel like the other ghosts because she was bu..."
I thought Zoey said she saw Hermione's silvery, slight form bound to the wheel, but maybe I remember incorrectly.
Kerry wrote: "Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-read the last chapter to double..."Actually, we spent a lot of time creating these effects with sound design! Dawn’s physical books ARE very much a feast for the eyes, but my team and I were deliberate in our attempt to bring as many of those physical elements to the audio as possible to translate and even heighten that experience in audio.
Give it a listen, and hear for yourself! 😉
Kerry, Yes Zoey did mention spotting hermione among all the bodies for a moment. I guess I just interpreted it differently. I suppose he could have devoured her charred innards, thus binding her to the depths.??
Elece,I listened to the audiobook and followed along with the print so that I didn’t miss any of the visual goodies I knew would be inside. I think the audio did an excellent job translating not only the story but the different elements as well as enhancing the experience. I really enjoyed the way Hermione’s diary entry’s were done. There was a lot of awesomeness!!!
Käthe wrote: "Elece,I listened to the audiobook and followed along with the print so that I didn’t miss any of the visual goodies I knew would be inside. I think the audio did an excellent job translating not o..."
Käthe, I think you had exactly the right idea--the print + audiobook together is a really immersive experience in this case!
In Hermione's diary entries: Did you hear the Quill scratching and Candle flickering? :)
Thank you so much for listening!
Yes, I did. Probably why I liked the entries so much!!!
Elece wrote: "Käthe wrote: "Elece,I listened to the audiobook and followed along with the print so that I didn’t miss any of the visual goodies I knew would be inside. I think the audio did an excellent job tra..."
That's cool
There were a lot of elements that I loved in this book. I loved the visual elements included to add some lovely and spooky character to the story. I also loved the multi-generational aspect of the story.
I loved the witchy vibe, and the female characters ! and it is great to have LGBT characters too.
Elece wrote: "Kerry wrote: "Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-read the last cha..."Do you work on other audibooks ? I 'd like to discover other audiobooks with the same kind of effects !
Cécile wrote: "Elece wrote: "Kerry wrote: "Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-rea..."Yes, I do--I am an in-house audiobook producer for Hachette Book Group, so I produce all genres of Hachette Books...but Dawn's books are some of my favorites (because they're so challenging and require a lot of creative audio ideas when translating her unique story elements)!
You should definitely listen to Dawn's previous two books in audio (which I produced, so they have spooky sound design and music like TEETH IN THE MIST): THE DEAD HOUSE was the first one, and then came AND THE TREES CREPT IN.
Both are really fun and spooky and fully immersive audio experiences.
I also produced and directed a really interesting YA novel called INTERNMENT by Samira Ahmed -- not quite as much sound design, but still a real nail biter-of-a-story. Beautifully narrated, too. Check that one out.
:)
Cécile wrote: "Elece wrote: "Kerry wrote: "Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss something? I re-rea..."Oh, and Christian Coulson--who played the 16 year-old version of Tom Riddle in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets--narrated parts of THE DEAD HOUSE. :)
Elece wrote: "Cécile wrote: "Elece wrote: "Kerry wrote: "Bark wrote: "Bri wrote: "I just finished this yesterday and I am FRUSTRATED. I have so many mixed feelings and I'm literally just like WTF did I miss some..."thank you I'll check internment.
I'd love to listen to other Dawn's books but they are not avalaible in audible France.
Finished this a few days ago, audio version on a train trip through Portugal and Spain (good environment for it). I liked a lot about the book: the construct of the 3 stories and the different period voices the characters had (I mean the literary sense, not the audio), the plot, I loved the Roan character, and the audio was very good for the most part (had some trouble understanding the demon sections) but like other readers I felt let down by the end. Felt like it was all too convenient, and how could it have been so easy to destroy the wheel? What happened to Faustus (did I miss that?). Also, if it is a setup for a future story, I still need more close out to this one.
Wasn't Faustus eaten by those living in the house?! Turned into stew or something?
Bark wrote: "Wasn't Faustus eaten by those living in the house?! Turned into stew or something?"I just finished this a day ago, and I had the same thought. I really enjoyed most of it, but got a little confused with the changes at the end--particularly Zoey's. Why did she and her father have those "curses" when conjuring, and Roan's timeline did not? I also didn't quite get how Roan's daughter was immortal (conveniently the same-ish age as Zoey, or so I imagined), and Roan was still alive in the mountain....
A great read, for me, up until the last (less than) quarter, when I started picking up things that seemed inconsistent.
