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FALL CHALLENGE 2019
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Task 30.5, option 4, requires that your book have a word that also appears in the title of one of the Flavia books - those books are listed in post 2 of the Help Thread. The book you listed as having a matching word is not one of the Flavia books.
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FYI - the "first published date" is based on the GR information, not on what you find on the book's inside cover. In this case, it doesn't matter - the first published date is 1939, so it still fits within the task parameters and the GO rules. However, this 10 year difference could make a difference in other tasks, so it is best to be aware of the rules.
No need to repost this - this is just for your information.
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The Halloween Tree includes Childrens as a MPG. Genres at review:
Fantasy 746 users
Horror 555 users
Fiction 375 users
Holiday>Halloween 258 users
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First, please remember that approval in the help thread only applies to the specifics of a particular task. Task creators are not responsible to verify compliance with general SRC rules, and cannot waive those rules. It is the participant's responsibility to make sure of compliance with general SRC rules, such as those regarding children's books, page length, etc.
The way the children's book rule is set up is that the first question is whether childrens is listed as a main page genre. If it isn't, we don't check. We have used a variety of ways to deal with this issue, and the current way seems to be the most workable one.
If you post it again, and catch the book at a time when there are fewer genres listed and thus that childrens doesn't show up, then you would be able to use it. Whether you think it's appropriate to use a book that you know doesn't meet SRC requirements is up to your judgment. Of course, if you post it again, and childrens shows up at that time, it will be rejected again.
Sandy wrote: "Amy wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Amy FL post 1852The Halloween Tree includes Childrens as a MPG. Genres at review:"
Sandy, would it make a difference if it had already been accepted in a completed task this season for someone else? I used the same book in the same task (same option, even) in post 817. Childrens had not been showing at that time, so I never checked the AR and no one ever asked. If it was acceptable for me (and others in posts 779 and 980) in this season it really should be acceptable for Amy as well (I checked, none of those posts were flagged as problematic).
I was specifically told that the childrens rule didn't apply unless it showed up as a MPG - we all know these change a lot, but who would go looking for it unless it was already there? I, for one, double check at the time of posting, but in this case it has already flipped twice in a just a couple of days since it was posted. We need a better system than penalizing a poster for something that showed up between the time she posted in good faith and the time the moderator processed that post. This is exactly the kind of thing I was concerned about when I first brought this up two seasons ago. I'm not sure what the solution is, because we need balance between what's not excessively labor-intensive for the moderators (who have enough to do already) and what's fair to the posters, but I think there needs to be a discussion. This is a moving target that needs to be nailed down.
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We have several participants in the SRC named Kathy. Please repost with your readerboard name.
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The Halloween Tree includes Childrens as a MPG. Genres at review:"
Sandy, would it make a difference if it had already been ..."
You're right, Aprilleigh, MPGs are a moving target. The genre listings is a Goodreads problem, not something that we have any control over. Feel free to contact them about it - I have raised it with GR folks before. So far, to no avail.
Over the past 10 years, the moderators have considered the children's book problem numerous times and tried several solutions. We have (finally, after trying many possible solutions) come up with what we consider to be the best solution. One that does not penalize people who read adult books in this adult reading challenge and one that does not unfairly impinge on your (volunteer) moderators' time.
If you have a better solution, please feel free to message any of the moderators with your suggestions and we'll take them under advisement.
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All of the letters in your title word must be found in the target phrase - 4 letters is the minimum letter count for the word, not the number of letters that must be found. Please see message 51 in the help thread for the task.
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You need to include the cover in your post. I tried, using your link, to add the cover of the paperback, and it was no problem. Did you put in the ISBN for the paperback when you tried?
I have already had to research this. so don't repost it. However, in the future, you will need to include the cover in your posts - a link is not sufficient.
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Task 25.2, option 5, states "read a book with a setting in Africa. The setting must be clear from the GR description or “Setting” indication". I don't see anything in the description or the metadata for The Rosewater Insurrection that mentions or even indicates Africa or Nigeria.
Sandy wrote: "Coralie post 1995Task 25.2, option 5, states "read a book with a setting in Africa. The setting must be clear from the GR description or “Setting” indication". I don't see anything in the descrip..."
I've added settings based on the Amazon description and the information found at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database.
Sandy wrote: "Joanne MI post 1977You need to include the cover in your post. I tried, using your link, to add the cover of the paperback, and it was no problem. Did you put in the ISBN for the paperback when y..."
So sorry Sandy-just wasn't thinking when the darn link got me frazzled!
Aprilleigh wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Coralie post 1995Task 25.2, option 5, states "read a book with a setting in Africa. The setting must be clear from the GR description or “Setting” indication". I don't see anything ..."
Thank you.
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Task 25.3, option 3, requires a book with the main page genre Sports. Nightshifted has the following main page genres at review:
Fantasy>Urban Fantasy 365 users
Fantasy>Paranormal 156 users
Paranormal>Vampires 138 users
Fantasy 125 users
Horror>Zombies 76 users
Romance 44 users
Shapeshifters>Werewolves 40 users.
If this had the MPG Sports at an earlier time and you had the genre verified, please repost with the post # of the genre verification.
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The Falls of the Wyona appears to be on GR with only a kindle edition and a pb edition with no page number information. If you have had the kindle edition verified for length, please repost with the google spreadsheet line number or post number. If not, you will need to ask a librarian to update the paperback record with page numbers, or get ebook length verification.
Sandy and Librarianish: I have added the page count to the paperback record. Librarianish, you may now re-post the task.
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Heart of a Samurai includes Childrens as a main page genre. Please review the rules for the use of children's books in the SRC. Rules of the Challenge
Genres at review:
Historical>Historical Fiction 335 users
Young Adult 107 users
Adventure 99 users
Childrens>Middle Grade 71 users
Fiction 66 users
Cultural>Japan 64 users
Historical 63 users
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Melt My Heart, Cowboy appears to be on GR with only 2 ebook editions and a pb edition with no page number information. If you have had the ebook edition verified for length, please repost with the google spreadsheet line number or post number. If not, you will need to ask a librarian to update the paperback record with page numbers, or get ebook length verification.
Sandy wrote: "Jen K post 2088Melt My Heart, Cowboy appears to be on GR with only 2 ebook editions and a pb edition with no page number information. If you have had the ebook edition verified fo..."
I have added the page number to the Paperback Edition.
Jen K, you can now repost this task.
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Task 25.6, option 1 requires that the book be written by an author using a pen name or alias. See post 11 in the help thread: "A pen name hides an author's identity by being completely different than their real names, past or present."
As far as I can determine, Seanan McGuire is not a pen name or alias. Mira Grant appears to be, but this book isn't written under that name. Much like Stephen King wouldn't work for this task, just because he also writes as Richard Bachman. If you have info to establish that Seanan McGuire is a pen name, please repost with that information.
also, I have a discrepancy in points - I show you having posted 5.4, 5.6, 10.8, 10.9, 15.2, 15.8, 15.10, 20.5 and 25.5. Does this agree with your records?
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When I search dictionary.com, I do not find "parklike" listed. If I'm missing it, please post the link from dictionary.com.
Sandy wrote: "Joanne MI post 2099Task 25.6, option 1 requires that the book be written by an author using a pen name or alias. See post 11 in the help thread: "A pen name hides an author's identity by being co..."
You are missing my very first post (message 11 in the thread) Task # 15.6-I checked the Q&P thread and cannot see where you said it was incorrect for some reason.
Sorry about the error my most recent post...having a rough season (*sighs heavey and lowers her head).
Sandy wrote: "Bluemoon post 2100When I search dictionary.com, I do not find "parklike" listed. If I'm missing it, please post the link from dictionary.com."
I went to dictionary.com and scrolled to the bottom and under browse the dictionary I clicked on "P" and on page 8 I found parklike listed.
https://www.dictionary.com/list/p/8
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Thanks, Joanne. It's on the spreadsheet now, and will show up in the next update.
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When I search dictionary.com, I do not find "parklike" listed. If I'm missing it, please post the link from dictionary.com."
I went to dictionary.com and scrolle..."
got it, thanks.
Sandy wrote: "Book Concierge post 2082Heart of a Samurai includes Childrens as a main page genre. Please review the rules for the use of children's books in the SRC. Rules of the Challenge
Genr..."
Reposted with the bookfinder data
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Task 20.6, option 3, states "Required: Include in your post the date of publication of Book #2 in the series."
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You cannot convert "September" into the numeral 9 for this task. See post 2 in the help thread.
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Into the Wild does not have the MPG of action or adventure. Genres at review:
Fantasy 1191 users
Animals 429 users
Young Adult 346 users
Fiction 332 users.
If you had the genre pre-approved, please repost with the thread and post #.
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Task 15.10 requires that you include in your post the month in which the book was listed.
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Task 20.6, option 3, states "Required: Include in your post the date of publication of Book #2 in the series."
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Please check your totals - 455 after post 2310, plus 20 this time, gives you 475. No need to repost, just correct your records so we can keep our records synched.
Sandy wrote: "Andy P post 2303Task 20.6, option 3, states "Required: Include in your post the date of publication of Book #2 in the series.""
Ok I will repost
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"The initials need to be in the order they appear in the phrase. " See post 8 in the help thread.
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The book you linked has 421 pages, so does not qualify for a BB ticket. You have received points for the task. If you actually read an edition with 500+ pages, please repost with that link, but be sure to note that you are reposting only for BB purposes.
Also, please check your totals. Your previous post showed 280 points, so you should have 285 after this posting.
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Task 50.1, option 3, requires that if you choose the cover option, you must post the cover in your task post.
Sandy wrote: "Librarianish post 2321"The initials need to be in the order they appear in the phrase. " See post 8 in the help thread."
I totally missed that, sorry!
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Childrens books cannot be used for task 50.1.
Knightley Academy includes Childrens among its main page genres. Genres at review:
Fantasy 123 users
Young Adult 40 users
Adventure 31 users
Fiction 27 users
Historical>Historical Fiction 27 users
Childrens>Middle Grade 17 users
Mystery 14 users
Childrens 14 users
Academic>School 12 users
Historical 11 users
Sandy wrote: " Midu post 2391Childrens books cannot be used for task 50.1.
Knightley Academy includes Childrens among its main page genres. Genres at review:
Fantasy 123 users
Young Adult 40 us..."
Sandy, I got it approved from the creator of the task. Do I need to redo it anyway?
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Childrens books cannot be used for task 50.1.
Knightley Academy includes Childrens among its main page genres. Genres at review:
Fantasy 123 users
You..."
The task creator is not responsible to verify that the book meets all general requirements, and cannot approve books that don't meet the requirements. All the task creator does is acknowledge that the book meets the specific task requirements - i.e., BER included. The task specifically states that no children's books can be used, and this cannot be waived by the task creator.
Sandy wrote: "Sophie post 2323The book you linked has 421 pages, so does not qualify for a BB ticket. You have received points for the task. If you actually read an edition with 500+ pages, please repost with ..."
Thanks, I've found the error on my SS now!
Sandy wrote: "Midu wrote: "Sandy wrote: " Midu post 2391Childrens books cannot be used for task 50.1.
Knightley Academy includes Childrens among its main page genres. Genres at review:
Fantasy ..."
Okay, understood!
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Please see the Posting Requirements:
"If you are claiming a BB ticket, you must include the number of pages in the book. Be sure that the link you provide goes to the edition you actually read, with the correct number of pages."
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All posts, including reposts, must include a link to the book claimed.
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Task 5.6 is a cover task and requires that you include the cover in your post.
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I do not see My Sister, the Serial Killer on the linked list, Man Booker International Prize Eligible Books 2019.
If I am missing it, please point out its number on the list.
Note that this award is not the same as the general Man Booker award - this one is for translated works.
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Task 20.6, option 3, states "Required: Include in your post the date of publication of Book #2 in the series."
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Please check your totals. After post 2507, you show 255 points (actually 235 because of above problem). In 2508, you posted a 30 point task, but showed a total of 310 points. With the above problem, your total after 2508 should be 265.
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I don't see anything in the description of Death Overdue that refers to Halloween or a Halloween setting. The task states "For this option, read a book where Halloween, Dia de Los Muertos, or All Saint's Day features prominently in the story. If the connection to the holiday is not obvious from the Goodreads description, provide evidence of the connection in your post."
If this book does take place at Halloween, please explain.
Note that this is not a "book from a list" task.
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The Halloween Tree includes Childrens as a MPG. Genres at review:
Fantasy 746 users
Horror 555 users
Fiction 375 users
Holiday>Halloween 258 users
Classics 251 user..."
I just checked the genre list and Childrens isn't there. What do I need to do? Do I repost and hope for the best or is the book invalid since when you reviewed it Childrens was there and the AR info is IL: MG - BL: 4.7 - AR Pts: 4.0?
I also just rechecked the help for this task and saw that The Halloween Tree was approved in message 16 for Jessica.