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message 101: by Bionic Jean (last edited Nov 09, 2014 03:40AM) (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) LOL! Well from my experience in England we just call him "Longfellow" and I have trouble even remembering the "Wadsworth" bit. Don't know how that would fit into your rules though, Jenny.

Shirley - I think that idea seems quite likely.


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B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments I've checked all these names, like Du Maurier, Le Carre, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Vincent Van Gogh, Wordsworth, D H Lawrence etc on various sites.

US Catalogue in Print, UK texts and various registries, AU National Library, France etc. All use as we have discussed Du Maruier, Le Carre, Longfellow, Van Gogh, Wordworth, Lawrence.

So it would seem that mostly GR is correct in it's search specifications and how it recognises Surnames. It does seem to come down to the individual who adds the Author when there are incorrect entries on GR.

Does still make me wonder whether the option of letting absolutely an GR member add a book/author is right or not. I know it would make heaps of work for Librarians if the job fell to them.

Also, since joining Amazon site, has GR 'inherited' lots of errors from Amazon files???


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Laurel Bradshaw (llawryf) | 703 comments Bette BookAddict wrote: "Does still make me wonder whether the option of letting absolutely an GR member add a book/author is right or not. I know it would make heaps of work for Librarians if the job fell to them."

I added one today for an ebook that was free on Amazon. I like to keep track of what is on my ereaders. Used to use Calibre, but since I add books at home AND at work, Goodreads is much easier. It would be frustrating if I had to wait for some "official" person to add these new titles, and there are thousands created every day.


message 104: by Bionic Jean (last edited Nov 09, 2014 11:14AM) (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Bette - Well not really "correct" if by that you mean in line with the USA and the UK, as you seem to, Bette and as we've discussed. Yes, Goodreads recognises those authors' names. But if you try to put a book on your shelves it will, surprisingly, not put it according to the USA/UK rule, and therefore not necessarily where you want.

For instance, all my books by Daphne du Maurier come up as being by "MAUrier, Daphne du", and thus in sequence after authors whose surnames begin "MAT" and before those beginning "MAV", whereas I expect them to be under "DU", ie after "DE" at least, even if prior to most authors whose surname begins with the initial "D" (as there could be a separate prior sequence of prefixes before the main "D" sequence.)

This is particularly annoying in the complete list of books we each have, and as I additionally have lettered shelves (eg a collection "C-D") I got very worried one day as I thought I'd lost all my "du Maurier" books, until I realised they had been filed under "Maurier."

Now I know the specific rule which Goodreads are working to, I can remember it. But it still baffles me why a USA website, (ie in a country where, according to Laurel, they use the sequencing starting "DU M..") they should do it what seems to be the Continental way, starting with "MAUrier".


message 105: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments @Jenny - I am pretty sure that Wadsworth was Longfellow's middle name (just like Somerset is Maugham's middle name), not part of his last name.


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B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Jean wrote: "Bette - Well not really "correct" if by that you mean in line with the USA and the UK, as you seem to, Bette and as we've discussed. Yes, Goodreads recognises those authors' names. But if you try t..."

Thanks for that, Jean:) I wasn't aware of situations like that. Fortunately for me, all the authors I have searched for have presented as I described in my earlier post.


message 107: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) So do you think the answer may be never to like authors with difficult names perhaps? Sorry, Daphne Du Maurier, John le Carré, Lord Byron, Lord Dunsany, Baroness E. Orczy et al ;)


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B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments haha, maybe.... I know Byron and Shelley always throw me. But usually I search via a book title then select the author's name or their Book List from there.

If I'm feeling ultra-lazy, I will search in Google first!


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B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments E.E. Cummings - should that in fact be e.e. Cummings?


message 110: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments B the BookAddict wrote: "E.E. Cummings - should that in fact be e.e. Cummings?"

or even e.e. cummings...


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B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Leslie wrote: "B the BookAddict wrote: "E.E. Cummings - should that in fact be e.e. Cummings?"

or even e.e. cummings..."


Yes, that's true. He's called that in every data-logging site I can find. Is the Goodreads entry out of step and incorrect?


message 112: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments B the BookAddict wrote: "Leslie wrote: "B the BookAddict wrote: "E.E. Cummings - should that in fact be e.e. Cummings?"

or even e.e. cummings..."

Yes, that's true. He's called that in every data-logging s..."


Perhaps, but that is such a judgment call that I am unwilling to change it. At least he still comes up in a search for e.e. cummings!


message 113: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) I always think it's incorrect to capitalise it.


message 114: by Meran (new)

Meran | 80 comments OOh! I've been waiting for a thread like this! I'll tag it for my fixes. Pages are wrong is the most constant.tt. Sorry something is wrong with my posting.


message 115: by Meran (new)

Meran | 80 comments I recently changed toYosemite OS update for Mac. I'm having problems posting. NOT a goodreads problem. If I have dupes, forgive me. We'll be spending some time on that this weekend.

I've been waiting for a thread like this! Most common error is page numbers, or no pages for a paper book, only percentages like for ebooks. Do I just add it in a post here, or contact someone listed here? If a listed person, can someone here make the list and pin it to the top?


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Meran | 80 comments Jenny wrote: "Well at least in the poetry catalogue I've now force fed you all the German National library's cataloguing system, sorry about that, but I can feel my hair turning grey at the thought of changing i..."

IN the US, it seems that ~anything can be a first name anymore. However, Wadsworth is still considered a surname. BUT surnames can be middle names, commonly. That's not considered a 'personal' name. Does that help? Unless it's hypenated, only the last appearing name should be considered the surname, to be filed under.


message 117: by Meran (new)

Meran | 80 comments About the 'van', 'du', 'ni' (in my own case), it can be variably filed under those as well. To be covered fully, if possible, use them both as entries. As in my own last name, I moved the 'ni' over like this: niCuill, to keep the 'n' as the first letter, but many places still see it only as 'Cuill' (like Facebook). It's NOT a middle name, it's part of my last name, so I want it used there.

(Sorry I forgot to reply to the correct post ;) )


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Meran | 80 comments How do I delete an edition that's on my list erroneously?


message 119: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments Meran wrote: "How do I delete an edition that's on my list erroneously?"

Do you mean in your shelves? Go to your shelf with the book you want to delete and on the right, after the details of the settings, you will see an "x". Click there.


message 120: by Meran (last edited Dec 14, 2014 07:33PM) (new)

Meran | 80 comments Yes, on my shelves.
I had deleted some before (wrong editions) but couldn't delete one recent one. Let me go see if the x is there...

Add to those instructions:
Make sure your list of books is set on line listings, not graphic blocks. (Then the x shows. It doesn't on the graphic blocks)

Thanks!

[interesting. Goodreads doesn't "read" my ipad's small smileys....]


message 121: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Just FYI - you can also usually delete books from your shelf when editing your review. At the very bottom of the edit page, next to "cancel changes" is a link that says "remove from my books". However I think both of these methods only work on the website (not from the mobile app).


message 122: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments @Leslie thanks for that tip. It takes ages for GR to load all my 750 tbr list which is where I had been deleting books from.


message 123: by Meran (new)

Meran | 80 comments Yes, I've noticed a big difference between the app, which I refuse to use, the mobile browser, AND the browser from my laptop.


message 124: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Hi Libs!

W. Somerset Maugham is also listed incorrectly on GR database as Somerset Maugham. Can you please fix this and move books to correct author name? Ta:)


message 125: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments B the BookAddict wrote: "Hi Libs!

W. Somerset Maugham is also listed incorrectly on GR database as Somerset Maugham. Can you please fix this and move books to correct author name? Ta:)"


Done (I think).


message 126: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Oh good, thanks :) That one's been irking me for ages ...


message 127: by B the BookAddict (last edited Mar 03, 2015 12:28PM) (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Can someone please add this trilogy to the author page for me:

Alan Sillitoe’s Frank Dawley trilogy comprises The death of William Posters, A Tree on Fire and The Flame Of Life. Ta!


message 128: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments B the BookAddict wrote: "Can someone please add this trilogy to the author page for me:

Alan Sillitoe’s Frank Dawley trilogy comprises The death of William Posters, [book:A Tree on Fire|604..."


I'm sorry, I can't help, I've never done a series. If no one will help you here you can ask in the librarian group.


message 129: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie I am listening to this audiobook: The Sisters: The Saga of the Mitford Family and the name of the narrator is misspelled. It should be Annie Wauters, not Annie Waters. Could someone help me fix this.

Thank you in advance.


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dely | 5214 comments Chrissie wrote: "I am listening to this audiobook: The Sisters: The Saga of the Mitford Family and the name of the narrator is misspelled. It should be Annie Wauters, not Annie Waters. Could someone..."

Done!


message 131: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Thank you, Dely!!!!


message 132: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Surely this Author entry is just plain incorrect; https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

Can someone please fix it? Ta!


message 133: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments B the BookAddict wrote: "Surely this Author entry is just plain incorrect; https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

Can someone please fix it? Ta!"


Done ;-)


message 134: by Bionic Jean (last edited Apr 15, 2015 02:57PM) (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) That reminds me, since Heather posted a poem by him, could someone please correct the entry for E.E. Cummings. It should be e.e. cummings, and annoys me every time I see it as on a website like this, as it really should be written correctly!

dely, given the way your name is written, I should think this irritates you too! LOL!


message 135: by dely (last edited Apr 16, 2015 04:22AM) (new)

dely | 5214 comments Jean wrote: "That reminds me, since Heather posted a poem by him, could someone please correct the entry for E.E. Cummings. It should be e.e. cummings, and annoys me every time I see it as on a w..."

I can't change Cummings' name. It seems this is the official way it must be written; I've looked also on Wordcat and other library catalogs and it's always written with capital letters. I'm sorry.

I can't change Cummings' name on GR. You can try to ask in the librarian group and see what they say about this issue.


message 136: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie dely, excuse me...I am sure I have capitalized you first letter. My fingers just sort of type it without thinking.


message 137: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments Chrissie wrote: "dely, excuse me...I am sure I have capitalized you first letter. My fingers just sort of type it without thinking."

Please please please, don't worry! It really doesn't matter; someone calls me also delay because of the autocorrect :D


message 138: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie OK..... I will not make the mistake again.


message 139: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments Chrissie wrote: "OK..... I will not make the mistake again."

I have edited my post because I don't want that someone worries if my name is written with a capitalized or lowcase letter. It really isn't that important.


message 140: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Sorry dely - shall I edit my post too? I know that you and amber are philosophical about this, and not at all offended when people don't notice - but don't want to put my foot in it with others ...


message 141: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) That is terrible about e.e. cummings! He always spelled his name that way! It sounds as if catalogues are trying to somehow impose another convention, or "correct" his name! I wonder if all authors called "Antony" become "Anthony", or those named "Jon" become "John" ...

Thank you very much for trying anyway, dely and even making the additional effort to looking further afield :)


message 142: by Leslie (last edited Apr 16, 2015 09:21AM) (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Jean wrote: "That reminds me, since Heather posted a poem by him, could someone please correct the entry for E.E. Cummings. It should be e.e. cummings, and annoys me every time I see it as on a w..."

It annoys me too. I think I tried fixing it once unsuccessfully. I know GR guidelines on how to do authors' names are pretty specific so perhaps it is required to be in compliance with those rules.


message 143: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments Jean wrote: "Sorry dely - shall I edit my post too? I know that you and amber are philosophical about this, and not at all offended when people don't notice - but don't want to put my foot in it with others ..."

No, don't worry.


message 144: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) OK, thanks dely :)

I expect so Leslie. I love Goodreads, but some things are too ... basic and not properly thought out, leading to mistakes, unfortunately :(


message 145: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments dely wrote: "B the BookAddict wrote: "Surely this Author entry is just plain incorrect; https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

Can someone please fix it? Ta!"

Done ;-)"


Thanks, dely, you are a gem. That particular error has been annoying me for ages:)


message 146: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments @Chrissie The 'mistake' on Cummings' name bother me too.


message 147: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) It was me, Bette ... LOL!


message 148: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Sorry, Jean:) You know, sometimes I feel like I'm probably just too pedantic about things but 'correct ain't correct unless it's correct'. lol:D


message 149: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) One is only ever accused of being pedantic by those who are slapdash about things ...


message 150: by Monica (new)

Monica Davis dely wrote: "Jean wrote: "That reminds me, since Heather posted a poem by him, could someone please correct the entry for E.E. Cummings. It should be e.e. cummings, and annoys me every time I see it...I can't change Cummings' name. It seems this is the official way it must be written; "

Poetic justice? After all, Cummings did write that poem about those who are overly concerned with syntax. Turnabout is fair play. :-)


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