A Feast for Crows
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is it the worst in the series?

I personally think it's the best. Martin, to me, is not a great writer, nor an out of the park storyteller. And by this, to give you an idea, I think Joseph Conrad is a great writer, while Stephen King is a storyteller. But in Crows, Martin does his best storytelling of the series. No prose of his will ever knock your socks off and make you think, 'That's the most beautiful sentence I've ever read.' But I like his Canterbury Tales take on Brienne's quest, and Arya's apprenticeship, and Jaime finally separating himself from Cersei. And the madness of Queen Cersei, as I think of her plot line, is fantastic. I'm aware a lot of fans think there's far too much of her in the novel, but it doesn't bother me. My vote for worst of the series is Dance With Dragons. Your thoughts?
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I love A Feast for Crows. I think it's one of the best books in the ASOIAF series. Sure, there are some boring bits - like pretty much the entire Greyjoy storyline (though the Kingsmoot scene itself is not bad). But I loved the way the world expands in this book and the next one. In the first three books, the settings are all pretty much the same (apart from in Dany's story), and most of the main characters are the same as well. But AFFC pans out over the whole of Westeros and some new parts of Essos, and shows us how the events of the previous books affected and were perceived by a larger section of the population. For me, the aftermath of a war is far more interesting than the war itself - and AFFC is the quintessential tale of a country struggling to survive the horrors of a war.
Also, as a huge fan of the worldbuilding aspect of fantasy, I loved that we get to see how people in different parts of Westeros live; how major Westerosi institutions, such as the Citadel in Oldtown, function; what life is like in a major Essosi city (Braavos); etc.
Also, as a huge fan of the worldbuilding aspect of fantasy, I loved that we get to see how people in different parts of Westeros live; how major Westerosi institutions, such as the Citadel in Oldtown, function; what life is like in a major Essosi city (Braavos); etc.
I liked this one. In fact, Cersei's last chapter made me whoop with joy and spew out lots of evil laughter.
I kinda like AFFC. It introduces my favourite locations: Dorne and Braavos, also Oldtown. (I have a tendency to like unpopular things, I'm not a hipster, it's just how I roll). I'm sorry to say I don't care much for the Ironborn (Aeron's chapters are painful) but the rest was alright. Jaime's chapters are the best. I prefer this one to ADWD, the Meereenese Knot made me cry bloody tears... Yes, we don't see the three main characters but then when they appear in ADWD you wish they weren't there!
I have to say I thought the second book, Clash of Kings is the worst in the series (although I should say that I don't think there is a 'bad' book in the series).
In FoC, we get to meet the Greyjoys, who are some of my favourite characters now. It does have less action than SoS but that's only to be expected. FoC is Act II Scene I, not Act I Scene IV.
In FoC, we get to meet the Greyjoys, who are some of my favourite characters now. It does have less action than SoS but that's only to be expected. FoC is Act II Scene I, not Act I Scene IV.
I'm so happy to see so many people liked this book! I have heard a lot of not-so-good stuff about it, but I definitely REALLY liked it. I think book 2 is the worst, because it is a bit long and slow. Book 4 I really enjoyed, and I found it refreshing with all those new and diffent POV's.
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I started this thread thinking there was a lot more negativity about Crows and I was a lone wolf in the love department for it. But it seems the reade
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I absolutely loved AFfC, probably because it tells the stories of my favorite characters and leaves out those I don't enjoy that much. I could have done without the Greyjoy part, even though I like the character of Asha. The ending is of course very satisfactory ;) Although I don't simply hate Cersei, I think she is just a fascinating character.
I have yet to read ADwD, though, and I am wondering what it will be like, as all my favorite storylines are already dealt with in AFfC...
I have yet to read ADwD, though, and I am wondering what it will be like, as all my favorite storylines are already dealt with in AFfC...
I loved AFfC, I might even go so far as to say that it is the best book in the series (though closely followed by ASoS). I can't really get into why as it has been almost six years since I read it. But ADwD was worse, the only thing it had going for it was that it contained all the awesome pov's.
Christopher wrote: "I personally think it's the best. Martin, to me, is not a great writer, nor an out of the park storyteller. And by this, to give you an idea, I think Joseph Conrad is a great writer, while Stephe..."
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels it's the best of the lot. Granted, I haven't finished Dance With Dragons yet. However, I can already say that DWD is my least favorite.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels it's the best of the lot. Granted, I haven't finished Dance With Dragons yet. However, I can already say that DWD is my least favorite.
Not me. This was the most boring and drawn out of the lot. I honestly felt like this book was a depository for threads that were unrelated to the main plot. I also thought it was an indication that the series was going to just keep going and never wrap up.
That was, until I got to the ending where it is finally revealed exactly what purpose the sections from Dorne and Samwell's trip to Oldtown served. Thank God for that and the note at the end from Martin, because those are the only reasons I bought book V and am continuing with the series.
That was, until I got to the ending where it is finally revealed exactly what purpose the sections from Dorne and Samwell's trip to Oldtown served. Thank God for that and the note at the end from Martin, because those are the only reasons I bought book V and am continuing with the series.
I enjoyed feast for the crows. Its not my fav book in the series (storm of swords) but I enjoyed the kings landing scenes and the greyjoy kingsmoot . Some great characters were introduced (the sandsnakes, Euron and Victarion).
For whats its worth I would place Dance with dragons as the worse....its by no means terrible, its still good, just not usual standard good. I guess its probably because im not a huge Dani fan.
For whats its worth I would place Dance with dragons as the worse....its by no means terrible, its still good, just not usual standard good. I guess its probably because im not a huge Dani fan.
Not at all. Unless you hate all the povs in this book. I really like Cersei and Sansa so this book was fun for me.
I enjoyed 4 and 5 the least, and I think that is due to not being able to see how all of the characters affect each other like we do in the first three. Even though you get the full story for the characters, because it's split into two books, you don't get the full story of the world itself.
You don't get the differing POVs of Tyrion compared to his siblings, or how Jon and Sam are feelings about each others situations. If George had been able to make this one book (which I don't know how he would have) I think fans would appreciate the Crows/Dragons story. Maybe he should have split it chronologically vs. geographically like he did
You don't get the differing POVs of Tyrion compared to his siblings, or how Jon and Sam are feelings about each others situations. If George had been able to make this one book (which I don't know how he would have) I think fans would appreciate the Crows/Dragons story. Maybe he should have split it chronologically vs. geographically like he did
I loved this whole series, however would agree that this was my least favourite, largely because of the absence of some of my favourite characters. Book 3 was my favourite, but I can't wait to read the sixth book when it's released.
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The problem with this book is it lacked the cornerstone character, the one who makes me laugh out loud with his dry wit - Tyrion Lannister. It was like a study in second string characters who I just didn't care that much about. Apart from Jamie Lannister and Cersei, who are interesting, but without Tyrion as foil they also lacked something as well.
It probably is, though it's still a good book. Half the characters disappear and it feels disjointed as a result, plus this is the first book where Martin starts writing in tedious detail journeys that in previous books would've happened 'off-screen' (think of all the travelling Catelyn Stark did and how little of it we actually saw). It still has some great moments in it though, a lot of juicy character development and adds yet more colour and depth to Westeros.
My main concern with AFFC is that the TV series is going to tear out all those long journeys and cover the whole of it and ADWD in two seasons flat. Martin might just have TWOW finished by then, but there's no way he'll get ADOS done in time.
My main concern with AFFC is that the TV series is going to tear out all those long journeys and cover the whole of it and ADWD in two seasons flat. Martin might just have TWOW finished by then, but there's no way he'll get ADOS done in time.
It is a good book with a great story but certainly for me it has been the worst so far...maybe because it includes a shorter list of characters and completely keep us waiting on some others
My two favourite characters are Dany and Jon Snow, so I found it a little lacking.
While I loved getting this picture of Cersei, I must say that this book, along with Dance With Dragons, disappointed me. They are my least favorite books in the series. I actually have a hard time understanding why they don't appeal to me as the previous books do.
Although I'm not sure if this is the worst in the series, it has been the most difficult for me to get through. Some chapters make me want to give up the series altogether! The chapters in this book also feel much longer than in previous books, with less hopping between characters, which would be great if I was more interested in Lannister plot lines. I miss Tyrion (I'm only on pg 600 ish, so maybe he'll return later).
Trudging through...
Trudging through...
It was a boring slog of boring secondary characters doing boring secondary character stuff.
The fifth book isn't much better, it just introduces a lot of new characters that just doesn't seem as interesting as those he killed off in the earlier books :(
Or maybe I just can't get excited about new cannon fodder...
The fifth book isn't much better, it just introduces a lot of new characters that just doesn't seem as interesting as those he killed off in the earlier books :(
Or maybe I just can't get excited about new cannon fodder...
Book 4 and 5 are both filler garbage. You can almost (except for a few chapters) ignore both and save yourself a lot of frustration. Especially in light of the fact that he wasted 10+ years writing them.
I have read book 4 twice now (I always try to reread a book, especially in a series, before I decide).. and both times I ended up being more annoyed with Martin. Most series I reread to prepare for the next book... but I can't anymore with Martin.. it is just painful.
I have read book 4 twice now (I always try to reread a book, especially in a series, before I decide).. and both times I ended up being more annoyed with Martin. Most series I reread to prepare for the next book... but I can't anymore with Martin.. it is just painful.
I detested the fact that it was almost all about Cersei and even more pointless or already presented back story.
However, I'm getting ready for the reread and hoping I find more to enjoy in it than the 1st time around.
However, I'm getting ready for the reread and hoping I find more to enjoy in it than the 1st time around.
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