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Aug 10, 2019 04:27PM
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'norks' used to be around in WA when I was a teenager meaning breasts - is that what you meant? Lots of other terms around, some cruder than others - boobs, boobies or even tits is probably more current (possibly 'the girls' if referring to your own!). Can think of a few others but the young 'uns here might have more up to date terms.'fair suck of the sav' is an oldie too but I think most people will have heard of it. The others look okay - 'you blokes' is often used to refer to a group of men as in 'You blokes wanna beer?' could also be 'youse blokes' in some settings - Nth Q'lders?
Another one to mention for Nth Americans is 'pissed' which to you guys means angry or annoyed.
If we're 'pissed' we're drunk, if someone is 'on the piss' they're doing some serious drinking, if we're going for a piss (men would say this, not usually women) we're going to the toilets (or 'loo' never the restroom), but if we're "pissed off' then we're angry! Confusing?
Phillip wrote: "I'm sorry I haven't responded in a few days. I went to visit one of my wounded soldiers at Walter Reed. This weekend, I plan to get after a lot of the re-writes I imagine from our previous discussi..."Only one I haven’t heard of is norks - if you are referring to a woman called Sheila then capital but if you’re referring to a sheila as in a female person then lower case
Sometimes good onya is shortened to just onya - such a as onya mate :)
Phillip wrote: "I'm sorry I haven't responded in a few days. I went to visit one of my wounded soldiers at Walter Reed. This weekend, I plan to get after a lot of the re-writes I imagine from our previous discussi..."'Fair suck of the sav' I do know what it is, I have heard it used but only ironically or to freak out tourists. As I heard it used (I am pretty sure) in FNQ, that works in your location.
Ace - sure!
Too right - definitely
No worries - absolutely, it is a phrase that can NEVER be overused.
Norks -? I have never heard that, have no idea what it means and suspect someone was having you on.
Good Onya - yes, as others said, it can be laconically shortened to 'Onya' or 'Onya mate' especially by your 50+ characters.
Mate - yes, it is a staple
Love -*shudders* all too common.I can easily visualise Chloe calling all and sundry 'Love'. Younger Australian's may find it a bit cringe worthy or mock it.Kind of depends on their background.
Tomato sauce - absolutely, NEVER ketchup.
Bloke - definitely, but be careful of context; it is used in third person mostly (I think - what do other people say??). As in "He is a good bloke" if he is not present. To his face it would just be 'mate'.
"My name is Sheila". vs 'she's a sheila, mate'.
If I was not going overseas soon I would break my rule and read this electronically, I am pretty curious by now.
Carolyn wrote: "'norks' used to be around in WA when I was a teenager meaning breasts - is that what you meant? Lots of other terms around, some cruder than others - boobs, boobies or even tits is probably more cu..."Lol - breasts? I would never have guessed that... In Brisbane (or Brissie) they were known as 'puppies' for a while and I have heard them called 'the girls' but I never heard norks. A shorterned version of Knockers maybe?
Carolyn wrote: "'norks' used to be around in WA when I was a teenager meaning breasts - is that what you meant? Lots of other terms around, some cruder than others - boobs, boobies or even tits is probably more cu..."That was the definition the website gave. I find it interesting that so many websites (likely created in the 90s at the EARLIEST) are using phrases that apparently were dropped as far back as the fifties. Although, it does give me a new element to add to my manuscript.
Deborah wrote: "Phillip wrote: "I'm sorry I haven't responded in a few days. I went to visit one of my wounded soldiers at Walter Reed. This weekend, I plan to get after a lot of the re-writes I imagine from our p..."Thanks for the breakdown.
I have another question. When it comes to referring to Australia, are locals more likely to call it "Oz" or "Straya?"
Deborah wrote: "If I was not going overseas soon I would break my rule and read this electronically, I am pretty curious by now. "I appreciate that. It suggests I'm doing something at least a little right.
Phillip wrote: "I have another question. When it comes to referring to Australia, are locals more likely to call it "Oz" or "Straya?""I think only foreigners and marketing execs use Oz in verbal form! Maybe we would use it in the written form (eg text language).
Phillip wrote: "I have another question. When it comes to referring to Australia, are locals more likely to call it "Oz" or "Straya?""In my experience, Australians would never say 'Oz' unless talking to a tourist. Everyone I know would say 'Australian' or 'Australia' but, in some accents to an outsider that may sound like 'Staralya' or even, maybe 'Straya'. We might joke about that; sort of competing to make it as nasal and short as we can.... but it is a joke.
Deborah wrote: "Phillip wrote: "I have another question. When it comes to referring to Australia, are locals more likely to call it "Oz" or "Straya?""In my experience, Australians would never say 'Oz' unless talk..."
Good to know. Almost all revenue is tourist based, so making sure the guides are laying it on thick is important. At least for the hunt scenes. The restaurant, beach party, apartment stuff reads like normal, everyday conversations (for the most part).
Yes! If it is for tourism, lay it on with a trowel. I traveled the backpacker trial up the QLD coast before uni, supplemented my income working in backpackers and dated a guy working on a tour desk in Cairns. For tourists, the slang, the accents, the dropbears and the 'deadly everything' are all rolled out like a red carpet. The tour operators will drop the image and just chat when they realise you are Aussie though and have a bit of a joke about it behind the tourists back. They tend not to buy into it themselves and may feel that those who do by in are a bit of a 'dill'.Regarding my last post - a lot of us will shorten Australian to 'Aussie' occasionally. I just did it in the last paragraph and didn't realise I was doing it. Incredibly difficult to notice what your everyday slang is.
Deborah wrote: "Carolyn wrote: "'norks' used to be around in WA when I was a teenager meaning breasts - is that what you meant? Lots of other terms around, some cruder than others - boobs, boobies or even tits is ..."I never knew where it came from - could be knockers. I heard it used in the 70s (by boys not so much girls) when WA was a bit more isolated from the rest of Australia and there were some words and expressions unique to it. Such as 'bathers' for swimsuit, called 'cossies' or 'swimmers' in other states.
I want to thank everyone again for their help. I'm now in final editing and cover design for my novel (the lineart is looking awesome!). I know I have a better product thanks to your kindness.
One final question: do you call it soccer or football? My internet research has shown both.
Phillip wrote: "One final question: do you call it soccer or football? My internet research has shown both."Most Aussies where I live call it soccer. Football is a more European term for the game.
Thanks. That's what I thought, but it never hurts to double check.
Phillip wrote: "One final question: do you call it soccer or football? My internet research has shown both."Yeah same here, my boys both play (in Sydney) and it's always soccer because rugby and Aussie Rules football (AFL) are also popular and played in schools as well as at club and professional level. Not sure what would be the most popular code in Nth Qld - could be AFL. Someone else might know.
However, a kid (or adult) might say "I'm off to footy training" or I
"I'm going to watch the footy" to his Mum (or partner or mates) and he/she would know which type of football was meant.
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Definitely soccer Phillip :) Glad you're happy with it all and the finished product is well on its way!
Hey, I'm from Cairns. :) PM me with any questions if you like.
I finally feel comfortable with all my research to publish. I want to thank everyone in this forum for your assistance. I truly appreciate all the feedback and feel my story is the best it can be. It occurred to me that I never shared my cover as I was pandering for information. I hope you enjoy it:
Congratulations Phillip, and good luck! The cover looks like fun.
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Congratulations on finishing your book Phillip! Hope it does well.
Good luck - love the cover, I can totally see someone trying to take a selfie with a zombie.
Thank you all for the help and comments of support.
Thank you for making this possible. A trip to Australia has significantly moved up on my bucket list (it's always been at the top).
Congratulations! It was a lot of fun and, yes, you should visit Australia :)
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