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what I think in order of timeOutside glass castle:
1 Aelin will meet up with ren and chaol (who sees aelin doesn't have his ring *sniff*) and possibly martaugh (honestly I think he'll die but...) learns about what happened at glass castle, and maybe about how the whole magic thing works (if chaol will fucking talk)
Aelin will probably try to get the wryd key first
this is probably how it will go:
Aelin: gimme my necklace
Arrobyn: No.
Aelin: ...
Arrobyn: ...
Aelin: it's mine
Arrobyn: No
Aelin: storms off
Later
Something sam related comes up, Aelin goes batshit.
she faces off arrobyn, she wins, but arrobyn doesn't die just get's crippled
Aelin then goes to get the wryd key, and she either obtains it, or it's gone (or if arrobyn dies he hid it somewhere)
3 Then either saves Aedion, or tries to find the key (depends on the time)
3&2 also might be switched depending on the time
4 either while or after they save aedion battle against dorian occurs & they find a way to take off the collar without harming dorian (they will kidnap him)
5 some bad shit happens
Glass castle:
1 manon & 13 arrive and dorian is asked to show them around, or is asked to do something with them
2 manon thinks dorian smells weird and tries to find out why. while she is also trying to figure out baba yellowlegs murder (the who and why)
while the king is eaching dorian to control his magic (or someone else is) in order to advance his powers (king thinks theres no way to get the collar off without killing im, therefor it is safe to teach him the magical ways)
3 manon learns dorian has magic, and shit happens (she ends up not telling anyone though)
4 together (or one of them) finds out the kings plan for the witches after using them (which includes utter destruction, or utter control)
5 Aedion's execution, Aelin to the rescue & Aelin vs dorian
6 Witches try to get out of the castle, find out some kind of force is keeping them in (wether its people or magical barriers)
7 somehow they get out (probably only manon and asterin)
8 most are together (other than the dead, and people will die. or the people who are again separated (possibly chaol))
9 Some bad shit happens
Things that I didn't know where to put but wanted to add:
-try to destroyed the clocktower but fail
-attempt to kill the king
- the king does more bad shit
-more about gavin (possibly gavin talking to dorian)
- Chaol and Aelin start redeveloping feels (nothing more than feels happen in the book)
- Somewhere along the way (possibly before execution) aelin finds people with favours)
- manon on team good and will possibly make alliance with crochans (last part prob in book 5)
In the end:
Shit goes down
more AGVSKSUBDKWBACBURQLEBCAL
rowan comes to rifthold (most likely in 5th book)
angst
and even more AJSKWBCQ;BWLQIBLLVLWHOLYH JAEBVCABCEH,FUCKING KWGKVUYVKRQUKVQVK SHITGGJVFAEKVKEFUVBLJQEBL
and we all die now (sing in ring around the rosy tune)
Wait... I thought Manon and her Thirteen went to Morath at the end of HoF... I'm gonna have to go reread that part again later.
Yeah, I thought so too... But, other than that, I think most of the things Priya said is gonna happen in book 4.
Wait maybe I got it wrong idk, I'll reread that part
I am so excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ok, now that that's out of my system, pretty much the only thing that hasn't been said that I think will happen is that Ansel (the Assassin and the Desert) will make an appearance because she and Celaena still have unresolved issues. Also Celaena will kill Arobynn.
I NEED her to kill Arobynn.
Manon is going to morath. Since she's not at glass castle this is what I think will happenShe will meet the crochan witches and accidentally lead her thirteen right to them
Epic battle
The thirteen lose
Manon is captured
Shit happens
Manon has an alliance with the crochans
Battle between the iron teeth and crochans
Mankind grandma gets killed and manon is now the leader of the black beak clan (she is also on team good now
Also I agree with Alexa Ansel will definitely make an appearance and so will nox and Lysandra and a bunch of other peopleIncluding the man in chapter 67 btw are we supposed to know who that guy is? Or is he a new character?
Lysandra is kind if Arobynn's lover now, right? I think she will either cause a lot of trouble for Aelin or will help her in order to get free from him. I am excited for her to return!
ok ok ok.... this just shout that I CAN´T WAIT FOR THE NEXT BOOK... anyway... I think that first of all, aelyn will meet with chaol and ren (tell ren the truth about her). She´s going to ask for the favors to the people she has help in order to save Aedion and to destroy the damn clock tower (It have to be soon cause the king said that he´d wait an aproxis time in order to Aelyn could realize that he has her cousin). After that, may be while, she will kick Arobyn ass... and may be with Lisandra´s help and then Aelyn will start looking for the 3ed wyrd key just because Arobyn is so damn badass and so damn cunning that is probable that he coould hide the key just to make a big shit with Aelyn... And I´m really hoping that Rowan could appear in this book, Aelyn will need him, (so do I) (Me more than Aelyn probably)
Speaking of the guy in chapter 67.... This is just a theory but could he be Aedion? I mean, there was the whole significance of him throwing a blade in the river, and remember Aedion had Aelin's family sword or something. And I know he got captured at the end but maybe he managed to escape? I dunno....
I just found a description of aedion a sword"Dull metal flecked with dings and scratches, it's pommel nothing more than a bit of cracked, rounded horn. Such a simple, plain sword for one of the greatest warriors of Erilea."
It can't be aedion. Because it's not the same sword.
I'm guessing this guy is royalty from eyllwe, fenharrow, melisande, or wendlyn.
My guess is eyllwe though (cuz it kinda sounds like eagle
I think I might make a new theories tab based off chapter 67
Damn, I kind of wished it was Aedion, if only so that would mean he was free. I really need him and Aelin to meet back up - just to see both of their expressions and have all those feels. They're like best childhood friends, right? Can't wait to see reunion :)
I keep making up different scenes in my head about how they meet, I'm going insane I need you book 4
Lol, I so agree. Fall 2014 cannot come fast enough.Though knowing Sarah J Maas they probably won't even meet up until Book 5
I know I've never been more excited for two people to meet up again lol. I keep trying to picture it! Is gonna be so sweet and prefect and ughhh I NEED BOOK FOUR!!!!
All of us need it! May be sarah could make us die a little bit with some spoiler or something
Noris wrote: "All of us need it! May be sarah could make us die a little bit with some spoiler or something"I feel like she will eventually
The main things I want out of book 4 are
1. Dorian freed
2. Aeidon and Aelin reuniting
3. Chaol meeting Rowan
4. AROBYNN DIES
5. We find out what really happened to Sam
I realize this is highly idealistic though
No... I think is perfect but i prefer aedion meeting rowan XD(that's will be epic)
I agree noris, I can't help but think how epic it will be when aedion and Rowan meet each other... I've been thinking about it more than Aelin and Rowan (I still want them to meet though)
Yeah! Jajajaja imagine... If aedion said he had felt a little jelous due to the way chaol knows aelyn.... Imagine how aedion will feel for the way rowan really knows everything about her!
Oh god... Poor aedion. He's left out. But we'll at least he knew everything about her 10 years ago (though she drastically changed, so that doesn't mean much). I'll cry for you aedion
I JUST REALISED KAITLAN AND ROLAND ARE IN MORATH!!!!! Which means manon and friends (:3) will be meeting them!!!!I also REALISED in crown of midnight they foreshadowed the manon story line
http://books.google.ca/books?id=7bTeI...
What if heir of fire had this kind of foreshadowing too??
Once upon a time I will check.
Eventually in the next book I think Dorian and manon and friends will meet and manon will know about the rings&collars
Book 4 of Throne of Glass Has a Release Date..September 10th 2015!!!!!!!!
I seriously want to know more about Manon because at the end Sarah made her seem more human to me.
AGH IM JUST EXCITED THAT IT HAS A DATE!!!! MY FANGIRLISM IS ACTIVATED AGAIN AJSKHSOENDNSKKDJDKAKDNJAKDMABSHKSNAHDJKAHDHKSBSHSKNAHSJSNHAJDNSJDIKAHSONDHAKDJJALDNAHDJBSH (well not that it was ever deactivated)
I can't ever deactivate my fangirlism, but I'm good at hiding it.
I have re-listened to all 3 audiobooks at least 8 times already. It is beyond fangirling out. I may need medication. Hah!
Utterly and Completely Random Theories
1) Lysandra's real name/identity is Nesryn Faliq
2) Abraxos(and all the other wyverns) is actually a human-turned-into-a-wyvern-by-the-king
3) Abraxos will turn into a super hot human man at some point
4) And then Manon and Abraxos are gonna fall in love (view spoiler)
More Utterly and Completely Random Theories coming soon.
I know I could be wrong and way off, but at least I've got something to do while waiting for the next book to come out. I mean, seriously--September 10th 2015. The release date keeps getting later and later.
Throne of Glass - August 12th 2012
Crown of Midnight - August 28th 2013
Heir of Fire - September 2nd 2014
The Mysterious and Untitled Sure-To-Be-Epic Book #4 - September 15th 2015
KILL ME NOW.
1) Lysandra's real name/identity is Nesryn Faliq
2) Abraxos(and all the other wyverns) is actually a human-turned-into-a-wyvern-by-the-king
3) Abraxos will turn into a super hot human man at some point
4) And then Manon and Abraxos are gonna fall in love (view spoiler)
More Utterly and Completely Random Theories coming soon.
I know I could be wrong and way off, but at least I've got something to do while waiting for the next book to come out. I mean, seriously--September 10th 2015. The release date keeps getting later and later.
Throne of Glass - August 12th 2012
Crown of Midnight - August 28th 2013
Heir of Fire - September 2nd 2014
The Mysterious and Untitled Sure-To-Be-Epic Book #4 - September 15th 2015
KILL ME NOW.
Melnara, I absolutely loved your theories!!!!
Melnara, I absolutely loved your theories!!!!
Ohh god!!!! Melnara while I was reading the parts of Abraxos and Manon I was wondering if that could happen. I mean, we all know that all the king omm creations? Used to be human, and for the way Abraxos is described and the way the wyvern act for Manon... I think it could happen...Also, I don't know why but Aedion and Manon could make a good pair XD
Alexa wrote "Speaking of the guy in chapter 67.... This is just a theory but could he be Aedion?" This is kinda late to comment on it but I just read the post so I have to tell my idea:
I think the guy in chapt. 67 who is throwing his sword in the river in HoF is Chaol throwing away his sword because in chapter 67 it says it has an eagle pommel and in ToG when Chaol offers Celaena his sword to duel Cain with it says it has an eagle pommel. Also when Chaol flees the palace, he stops in the tomb under Celaena's rooms and takes the sword of the old king in HoF. When the anonymous guy drops his sword in the river it says that he has a "new sword at his side--an ancient king's blade..." Also its kinda of Maas' way of showing Chaol renounce his kingdom and loyalty to the king because that sword was his when he was captain of the guard.
I thought the anonymous guy was Aedion too until I re-read the series for the 15th billion time and I remembered what Chaol's sword looked like.
Could Celeana and Chaol have been bounded? Because in ToG she realized they belonged, I think? But there was definitely some golden bond deep between them. It snapped after Nehemia died, but it was there. When she bonded with Rowan there was definitely some deep golden bonding going on.
Rama: I don't think they were bonded. It would be more likely for chaol to be bonded with Dorian than chaol and celaena, especially considering she's already bonded with Rowan.
I really want Dorian and chaol to be bonded because chaol is honestly so useless right now, and weak. Chaol needs a power up and soon. Also Dorian and chaol will be such an amazing team <3
Am I the only one who thinks that Celeana should be with Rowan or even Aedion instead of Chaol?
Maybe Celeana should just be alone. Cause all these relationships have plot holes.
I really don't want her to be with Rowan because they have the perfect thing already. That would just mess it up. I used to ship Chaol and Celeana, but... I mean he was just not. Just not... You know. I thought maybe they had bonded a different type of bond, like mate bond but weaker because of the lack of magic
I don't like answering these shipping stuff because I only ship Chaolaena and that is never going to change, everyone else in celaena's life just seems like a BFF or sibling to her.
I still ship Chaolena but not as much as before. I guess I'm fine with whoever she wants. Though I think Aedion is also a choice, if we're going back to the plot. She said it was as ridiculous now as it was 10 years ago, but a girl can have a change of heart. Maybe when they meet they will have changed enough to have a relationship. I don't really mind either way. I just want the meeting. I'm fan girling on the inside, but I'm in class right now so I can't show it.
I don't know why I took so long to write in this fandom, but I agree with Chaol being the guy in chapter 67.As for the shipping thing, I too believe Celeana is meant to be alone. I have a feeling Maas will have Chaol and Celeana reunite and end up together, but I also think she'll end up alone. Having Rowan by her side. I don't think she and Rowan will end up together, nor will she end up with her cousin.
September 15 is too far, I just really wish Celeana will get there in time and the Dorian will be free.
If there is one ending that is not Chaolaena that I can accept is Aelin alone and conquering the world
Celaena is strong enough of a character to end up alone and still be okay. I would not be unhappy if she just chose no one. That's how good Maas is.
I agree with that. Also I don't want her and Aedion to be together, I'm just saying it might be a possibility. About the guy in Chapter 67 I'm positive it's Chaol finally picking the rebels side.
I really really want Rowan to like follow her , I mean it's hardly an accuse that magic is gone and he can't shift. I mean surly if he's been Mauve's solider for that long then he's probably been through worse than spending a couple of months in his animal form. But if he's not going then maybe he can go make allies with Celeana's cousins the Ashwrivers? Can't spell that. She needs as many allies as she can get.
