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TOG #4: Queen of Shadows > Queen of Shadows ~ Plot

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message 451: by Giada (new)

Giada But Dorian? Any prognose?? I think we'll see him as antagonist soon, but when he will be free. by his friends. no idea. but noit in QoS


message 452: by priya (new)

priya (gpriyaa) I have a theory he will be going to wendlyn to attack again. I also think he will be playing a villain-like role until he gets the collar off


message 453: by Giada (new)

Giada That's possible.. But in Wendlyn he will fight against Rowan. oooooh epic! Ice vs. Ice


message 454: by priya (new)

priya (gpriyaa) I have high hopes for Dorian in QOS.


message 455: by Giada (new)

Giada I think Aelin Chaol and the other will discover what happened to Dorian duribmng the ball, but to save him in QoS is too early. Without Magic is for her impossible save hin without get off his head. So Aedion first, Orinth's Amulet, Arobynn and at the end then tower/ beginn travel around the continent to have alleys. and not to forget morath and wendlyn. Yet too much ahahahah for a book.


message 456: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 24 comments Maybe Gavin will help Dorian like in CoM and then with his own willpower the collar explodes. ( I know it sounds too good to be true)


message 457: by Giada (new)

Giada mmh maybe. to help hil without hurting or killing Dorian, it needs some overdeath help
Elena or Gavin.. they will be a good possibility but how I don't know. It's not just a necklace, like the poisson in ToG, but a Valg possession. So maybe Gavin will help protecting Dorian inside while Aelin attacks


message 458: by Hannah Mae (new)

Hannah Mae | 233 comments A lot will occur in this book, and I cannot wait to have and read it! I've no doubt that Sarah will deliver in this one. Each book just keeps getting better and better, character wise and story wise. Plus, after we all read the first 3 Chapter samplers, it's impossible for it to be a dull one.

Dorian will for sure be a villain in people's eyes during this book, but the sad part is that he is aware of what he's doing and can't stop himself from doing it. A villain in the outside but with a hero's heart. I really hope he doesn't die, it will honestly break my heart. Hoping there's another way to break the collar without the need of cutting his head!


message 459: by Mirou (new)

Mirou | 186 comments Melanie wrote: "Maybe Gavin will help Dorian like in CoM and then with his own willpower the collar explodes. ( I know it sounds too good to be true)"

Exactly my thoughts!


message 460: by Mirou (new)

Mirou | 186 comments Hannah Mae wrote: "A lot will occur in this book, and I cannot wait to have and read it! I've no doubt that Sarah will deliver in this one. Each book just keeps getting better and better, character wise and story wis..."

Impossible, he can't die. He is the futur king. Aside the romantic stuff, he is too important for the storyline. Like Aelin who evolved in HOF, we will see him grow and take resposabilities. I still believe in him!


message 461: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments I do too! It must be impossible for Dorian to die. He just simply can't.


message 462: by Hannah Mae (new)

Hannah Mae | 233 comments Yeah, he is too important that's why I'm hoping there's another way to release him. Who knows, he might even overpower the collar when he learns the full potential of his power.


message 463: by Giada (new)

Giada no He cannot. It's more possible that Chaol will die, if someone had to die. But we must positiv thinking


message 464: by priya (new)

priya (gpriyaa) I really want to know what will happen if Dorian does die now. Urgh the curiosity.


message 465: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Agree with Giada, Though I do think that there're something hiden, a particular reazon why Chaol is using damaris. If Dorian dies (which I think is not going to happen) Chaol could be an amazing king, even if he's not a Havilliard, he could be a chosen king


message 466: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) Erm, what?


message 467: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments MARLEY WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

That lady who was with Chaol in the Vaults was Ren????!


message 468: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) OH MY GOD I'M LAUGHING HARD


message 469: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) Okay, stop. I don't think Ren looks *that* feminine tho xD


message 470: by Hannah Mae (new)

Hannah Mae | 233 comments I was going to say, that's quite the "woman"


message 471: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) HAHAHA. But how did you come up with that conclusion!?


message 472: by Anna (new)

Anna | 142 comments HAHAHAH too great about Ren!


message 473: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) Wow, Marley you are a genius. We were all ploting here about who the 'woman' was and it was so easy to guess xD


message 474: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) That is another meeting I'm looking forward too! I'm wondering if Ren was one of those kids who were afraid of Aelin's powers...


message 475: by Hannah Mae (new)

Hannah Mae | 233 comments Oh heavens, this is actually hilarious! Should be interesting to read, hah.


message 476: by Umaira (new)

Umaira  (marley_teal) | 46 comments *gasps* THAT IS SO POSSIBLE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT.

And there's also Manon and Kaltain and Roland who are all going to be at the same place. And DORIAN. AND ROWAN. SO MUCH FEELS.


message 477: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments I'm actually kind of scared of reading Queen of Shadows.
Scared to find out what happens to Dorian, scared to find out what happens to Aedion, scared to find out what happens to Chaol, scared to find out what happens to Ren, scared to find out what happens to Rowan, and most importantly,
SCARED TO FIND OUT WHO AELIN CHOOSES (what if it's not Chaol...??)

Anybody else scared?


message 478: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) I am effing scared, Serena. Mostly because this book is like the beginning of dark times and War and important people are going to start dying. I want to know what happens to the main characters but yeah, I'm pretty much scared about their future.


message 479: by Danielle (new)

Danielle (dalandanielle) | 233 comments Giada wrote: "mmh maybe. to help hil without hurting or killing Dorian, it needs some overdeath help
Elena or Gavin.. they will be a good possibility but how I don't know. It's not just a necklace, like the pois..."


Maybe Gavin's the reason for that "shield" around Dorian in CHapter 1?


message 480: by Danielle (new)

Danielle (dalandanielle) | 233 comments Serena wrote: "I'm actually kind of scared of reading Queen of Shadows.
Scared to find out what happens to Dorian, scared to find out what happens to Aedion, scared to find out what happens to Chaol, scared to f..."


The scariest thing is if she chooses Chaol but then it's too late 3


message 481: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 24 comments I'm wondering if Manon will have a love interest. In HoF it is mentioned that she in her twenties.


message 482: by Umaira (new)

Umaira  (marley_teal) | 46 comments Melanie wrote: "I'm wondering if Manon will have a love interest. In HoF it is mentioned that she in her twenties."

She only looks to be in her mid-twenties. She's actually over a century old. But I think you already know that. Just saying..^.^


message 483: by priya (new)

priya (gpriyaa) I currently count asterin as her love interest.


message 484: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 24 comments Maybe Lorcan will be her love interest ( if they ever meet that is)


message 485: by Giada (new)

Giada Ahahah so many ilarious comments!! If he was Ren I can't stop laugh when I red!!!
And I think that she will discover her true love, but again she cannot be with him in this book


message 486: by Mirou (new)

Mirou | 186 comments Hahahaha, about Ren, I can't stop laughing!
Hum, I was think about something : Maas said we will know with who Aelin wants to rule BUT that doesn't mean she chooses this person because she is in love. No ? Because, for me, it's little too soon to know her end game, even if I eager to know it!


message 487: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments Danielle wrote: Maybe Gavin's the reason for that "shield" around Dorian in CHapter 1?

What "shield" around Dorian?


message 488: by Danielle (new)

Danielle (dalandanielle) | 233 comments Serena wrote: "Danielle wrote: Maybe Gavin's the reason for that "shield" around Dorian in CHapter 1?

What "shield" around Dorian?"


Some invisible barrier still separated them, but the wall crumbled a little more every time the thing stalked along its length, testing its strength. -Queen of Shadows, Chapter 1

I'm betting it's Gavin's doing. Or his blood and magic in Dorian. But something/someone's surely behind why. My guess though...


message 489: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments Oh yes I remember now. Thanks, Danielle.


message 490: by Giada (new)

Giada Throne of Glass

Chaol POV in QOS
HOF was hardest to write
Manon’s POV is easiest to get into
Aelin-Manon meeting in QOS !!!
In regards to how mad Aelin will be when she returns to Adarlan: “Aelin will be mad enough when she returns that it’s a good thing her magic is stifled”
“Definitely possible” for Fae to have more than one soul mate!!!
Character Sarah is most excited for us to meet/re-meet in QoS = Lysandra
Asterin Blackbeak is wanted for murder
Five year old Dorian would want 30 year old Dorian to be an “epic dragon-slayer”
If Sarah could bring back any character that she killed, it would be Nehemia
Sneak Peeks into QOS: “Violence, revenge, steamytimes, attitude problems, epic shenanigans… the usual”
Rowan’s cadre may “purrrrrrrhaps” show up again
On whether Aelin’s fae-ness makes her immortal: “you’ll find that out in future books”
Influence for Rowan: “Rowan just walked into my head one day, and that was that”
QOS is just over 180k words
SJM knows how ToG will end but “still many, many stories to be told in that world afterwards”
Manon likes to have her hair brushed
Yrene will be returning in future ToG books
Celaena’s weapon of choice = daggers
Fleetfoot is 100% confirmed to survive the series
Nox will return (as of right now ) but not is QoS
“Nox has been off on some VERY fun adventures since TOG”
Best thing about writing Celaena = her fire (figurative and literal)
Ending of ToG won’t be like fiction press draft which Sarah considers to be “an entirely different book” of which “everything has been thrown out”
Dorian stole a berry pie from castle kitchen when he was 11, ate the whole thing and was sick for a day (random fact)
Dorian is 6′0, Chaol is 6′1, Celaena is 5′7-5′8, Aedion is 6′3, Rowan is around 6′4
Ansel will return
“Perhaps” we will see the Silent Assassin’s again. “Perhaps” they will play a role in later books.
Rowan would win in a fight against Legolas… “Duh”!
Chaol gets his “fair share of page time” in QoS
Ironteeth “witches have slits high up in their gums where the iron teeth snap down/over their normal teeth”
Arobynn is mid-late 30s
Piano is only instrument Celaena can play
Chaol has “the NICEST buns” (lol)
It was always the plan for Sam to die
“Sam is 1000% dead and never coming back”
Chaol had “a few” love interests before Celaena
Most important question asked (according to SJM): “who has the better bum, Chaol, Dorian or Rowan?” - SJM won’t answer except to say that Celaena definitely has an opinion on this
SJM knows who Celaena is going to end up with


message 491: by Giada (new)

Giada news from acotar's party.
so maybe not in QoS will we discover the final lover of aelin


message 492: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments OMG!!! ajajjajajajajajajajaja
And no, I mean, Ren´s parents were a little bit angry cause they wanted Ren to be Aelin´s protector, to make the blood oath with her and that kind of things.
However it will be very very funny when Ren realizes who Celaena really is... imagine:

Ren: So... you´re my lost queen...???
Aelin: Yeap!
Ren: And... you kick my ass a couple ! months ago...????
Aelin: Yeao!...
Ren: Ok, let´s all of us try not to tell that to Aedion...
Aelin: Sure (Predator smile)


message 493: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments Noris, when did it say that Ren's parents wanted him to become Aelin's protector?

"Ren: And... you kick my ass a couple ! months ago...????
Aelin: Yeao!..."

So Ren and Aelin met each other before?


message 494: by Giada (new)

Giada in one of Aedion's POV ik HoF he talked about the blood bond and about Ren.

and yes they met before. Ren is the same warrior of CoW, when Chaold was captured from Archer's band. The man mit two swords and the old man who tried ro dtop celeana? They were Ren and Murtaugh


message 495: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) Wait, they were on CoM??? How did I not noticed this o.o


message 496: by Giada (new)

Giada yes.. in HoF I think chapter 19. When Chaol has been captured by aedion and the rebels. The rebels are the sami in CoM

"Chaol found Aedion and a familiar-looking old man staring dawn at him. The one who had begger Celeana to stop that nigjt in the warehouse." the old man, Murtaugh who I think has doubt about the true identity of celeana maybe he doesn't realized she was aelin, her queen. but doubt about it, sure


and Ren "bedise him stood a young man Chaol knew by his soft, vicious laugh: the guard who had taunted him when he'd been held prisoner"


message 497: by Giada (new)

Giada murtaugh and Ren were the rebels, who collaborated with archer in CoM. Murtaugh ist the man that tried to stop Celeana from bloodshed. And Ren is the guard with two swords,with whom Celeana begun again to fight before archer and thr arrow. Ren was also the rebel, who was not in agreement with Archer. Once celeana was studying the movements of archer and saw that man with two swords argue with him. After nehemia death, the evening in that she went to dorian's room to have dinner with him.


message 498: by Giada (last edited May 19, 2015 05:03AM) (new)

Giada sorry for the confusional recap ahahah


message 499: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments OOOHHHHH!! Thanks so much Giada I remember now. Haha I should reread the series because I'm forgetting everything.


message 500: by Giada (new)

Giada =)

For the next books.. when she will get around the continent to find alleys. Can you imagine the encounter between aelin and the pirates' lord?ahahah I wanna see all these characters of the novellas, Yrene, Ansel, Ilias.. They will be of course alley to her and the whole thing, encounter, explanation will be great but the encoubter with the pirate ahahahah I can't stop smiling at the thought!! Celeana destroyed his isle and humiliated him. When he will discover, about her.. ahahahha


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