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Speak No Evil (No Evil Trilogy, #1)
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Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9278 comments Mod
Angie’s sexual lifestyle put her at risk for being an unsympathetic victim. Why do you think public opinion applies such judgment? Carina asserted this as a reason for her fellow law enforcement colleagues not making the case more of a priority early on. Did she have a point?


Karen ♐ (kmk1214) | 909 comments Her sexual lifestyle shouldn't have any effect on how the case is handled but public opinion does affect cases. I think Carina is right accusing them of not making it a priority. It should make no difference whatsoever what her sex life is.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1803 comments Unfortunately, the "blame the victim" attitude is far too prevalent both in law enforcement and the general public.


Charlene (charlenethestickler) | 1203 comments Yes, I sadly agree with you that blaming the victim, and having the male/female double standard on some issues today, does affect law enforcement and the public's knee-jerk reactions. No one would admit it's rational anymore, would they?


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9278 comments Mod
It always amazes me as to why a victim could ever be deserving of assault, which is in essence what their saying. Breaks my heart that it still happens today and often by women.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1803 comments Jonetta wrote: "IBreaks my heart that it still happens today and often by women.

It makes me really angry when women turn on each other. I saw an article a few weeks ago about a mother wanted the girls at her sons' school to stop wearing leggings because they were "suggestive" and "forced" boys to look at them. Really? She should teach her sons to respect women no matter what they are wearing! Argh!


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9278 comments Mod
Lauren, this thinking drives me crazy!!! This is at the root of extremist religious beliefs, that women have to cover up to prevent causing men to lust after them.

If the feminist cause does nothing else, I hope they tackle this issue among women, get at the root cause of it and shift the thinking. It was created by men to control women centuries ago and will take some time to alter course.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1803 comments Jonetta wrote: "It was created by men to control women centuries ago and will take some time to alter course.."

So right! Too often women have internalized these patriarchial notions and perpetuate them to their own detriment. Infuriating!


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9278 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "Too often women have internalized these patriarchial notions and perpetuate them to their own detriment. Infuriating!..."

*like*


Melissa (melissasd) | 676 comments You would think that this wouldn't be an issue this day and age, but people will always think the worse about someone who has a strong sexual appetite. This should never make the person less of a person and not worth the full attention of the police, though. I'm glad that Carina said something about it.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9278 comments Mod
But we only seem to see this applied to women. No one brings up a man’s sexual history.


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Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 397 comments Mod
I think Harry Bosch says it best...Everybody counts, or nobody counts. Sad that it's not that way.

However, I didn't necessarily see it as her fellow police officers assigned it less priority because of her lifestyle as much as I felt it wasn't as big a priority in the beginning because there wasn't yet evidence of a serial killer - suspicion, yes - but as far as they knew, it was one murder, maybe an isolated case. And they had a great number of cases in progress. I did feel that Carina feared it was getting too little attention because of the sexual activity.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9278 comments Mod
Oh! You used a Harry Bosch quote!!! Be still my heart💜💜💜

My love for that detective is legion and is perfect for this discussion.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1803 comments Yay Harry! I love that quote of his. It is so right and true!


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