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Any kindle edition with a unique ASIN that ever existed does stay in GR, even though it may no longer be for sale on Amazon. Many people like to shelve the precise edition/precise ASIN that they bought.Are you trying to locate a specific ASIN of this book on GR? Or are you trying to shelve for your own shelves the most up to date/current kindle edition of the book? I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do.
Yes, all the editions stay. Some of the ASINs are for editions no longer found, and some might be for the non-US versions of Amazon.
Partly I was curious about all the duplicates and partly it is managing my own shelf. I read a lot from the library and the ebooks rarely match editions
Shouldn't there be a way to mark them as no longer available? Because it can be very frustrating trying to find the currently available kindle version.
Sorry if this is not the right place for this:different title but actually the same book
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
The quickest way to find the current available edition would be go to amazon.com search the title and use the ASIN on that record to search GR. The only way that "out-of-print" editions are denoted now is by text added to the description of the edition. This is rarely done, as it takes a manual change and librarians don't usually know when an edition is "out-of-print". That wouldn't be helpful at quickly locating the current edition you are looking for it you have to look at each book page.
Larry wrote: "Sorry if this is not the right place for this:different title but actually the same book
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2......"
Combined the lone kindle version with the other editions.
Larry - in the future it is best if you start a new thread so it doesn't get lost in amongst another issue.
The only way that "out-of-print" editions are denoted now is by text added to the description of the edition.If I take the ASIN listed for a Kindle ebook, plug it into the Amazon search and get --Your search "(ASIN)" did not match any products.-- is that a sufficient indicator to determine that it is out-of-print?
Kate wrote: "The only way that "out-of-print" editions are denoted now is by text added to the description of the edition.If I take the ASIN listed for a Kindle ebook, plug it into the Amazon search and get -..."
No, the ASIN might be for amazon.uk (or another version) instead of amazon.com.
So, if it is still available somewhere, even if it is a pirated copy, we should leave it?
Kate wrote: "So, if it is still available somewhere, even if it is a pirated copy, we should leave it?"I'm not sure where you got the "pirated copy" part.
As an example, eNet Press is working with the family of Thorne Smith to publish his books as eBooks. The family owns the ePublishing copyright on all these books worldwide (except the ones that are out of copyright already). On Goodreads, "Nightlife of the Gods" by TS has four eBook versions, beyond those published by eNet. They may still exist somewhere but they aren't legal copies.
Kate wrote: "As an example, eNet Press is working with the family of Thorne Smith to publish his books as eBooks. The family owns the ePublishing copyright on all these books worldwide (except the ones that are..."There may be different ISBNs for different geographic regions. I'm not familiar with either the author or the book, nor am I familiar with the publisher.
At least a couple of the Kindle editions are valid editions. Depending on the country and the digital rights, they may be legal editions.
If you have concerns about a specific book/edition information coming from a pirate site, I would contact GR support.
Sticking with the same book, "The Nightlife of the Gods" by Thorne Smith Again, the only authorized ePublisher is eNet Press (I manage their web site and know the owner, so I'm sure) One of the other Kindle versions on GR was published by Thackeray Press and the ASIN is listed on Amazon as "unavailable.” I cannot find Thackery Press online at all. When I follow each of the Google links for this ASIN (there aren't many), I eventually get back to the eNet version, or a dead page.
I totally agree with leaving it as a reference for people who may already have it, but I wondered if it was OK to add “No longer available” or “Out of Print” to the description.
Kate wrote: "Sticking with the same book, "The Nightlife of the Gods" by Thorne Smith Again, the only authorized ePublisher is eNet Press (I manage their web site and know the owner, so I'm sure) One of the o..."
In that case, yes I would add an "No Longer Available" note to the description.
In the past I've dealt with users who swear a Kindle edition is not valid, when really it was the amazon.uk edition. So I've learned to remind people that more than one Kindle edition maybe current.
I do know that when I checked amazon.uk, there were some editions that are current. eNet Press wasn't listed as the publisher.
Thank you. I was not aware the Amazon.co.uk had these. As far as I know they should not and I have passed the information on to George. I will hold off tagging the ones from this publisher until it is sorted out.
Books by Thorne Smith, including The Night Life of the Gods, are available through libraries and are published by Floating Press. Have been for a while.
"Books by Thorne Smith, including The Night Life of the Gods, are available through libraries and are published by Floating Press. "Thank you. I have passed these on to George as well, since it is not my job to deal with unauthorized publishers.
As an update: George tells me that Thorne Smith's books are in the public domain everywhere except in the U.S. So those by other publishers, as long as they are actually still publishing, are legitimate. Thanks to everyone for all the excellent feedback about this issue.
There are 58 Kindle editions listed with different ASINs, but if you google most of those they are bad references to nonexistent links at Amazon, like this http://www.amazon.com/Merry-Adventure...
I have a Kindle version that isn't available on Amazon anymore so perhaps all those were legit editions at one point. Do all 58 editions stay? I can't find the current Kindle edition amidst all the bad links and it's irritating my need for precision.
The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood