Doctor Who: The Library of Carsus discussion

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Rick | 2260 comments 😳 Number Six as a companion for the Doctor? 🤔 Would that even work? 🤨


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments A team up would be cool, but I was thinking that the Doctor would be number six.


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Rick | 2260 comments With the Master as Number Two? 🙀


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Matthew Kresal | 118 comments Funnily enough, there's an episode of McGoohan's earlier series Danger Man with Roger Delgado as the baddie that was partly shot in Portmeirion. I saw it several years ago now and had a chuckle at how many things were unintentionally crossing over at the same time.


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Rick | 2260 comments Matthew wrote: "Funnily enough, there's an episode of McGoohan's earlier series Danger Man with Roger Delgado as the baddie that was partly shot in Portmeirion. I saw it several years ago now and had a chuckle at ..."

Wow. I really do need to see Danger Man. Never gotten around to it.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "With the Master as Number Two? 🙀"

Better yet, the village isn't for ex-spies, but renegade time lords.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Funnily enough, there's an episode of McGoohan's earlier series Danger Man with Roger Delgado as the baddie that was partly shot in Portmeirion. I saw it several years ago now and h..."

I've seen a couple, but I think, after the Prisoner, I need to try Danger man.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "Rick wrote: "With the Master as Number Two? 🙀"

Better yet, the village isn't for ex-spies, but renegade time lords."


Ohhh, sounds fun.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Power of Kroll: fun, old school base under siege with a little bit of politics and a giant monster thrown in for good measure.

Better than I remember and only one more segment of the key to time to go.


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Rick | 2260 comments I finished the first of the Doctor Who: The War Doctor Begins: Forged in Fire. Very entertaining. Jonathan Carley does an impressive job of giving a near pitch perfect version of young Sir John Hurt as the “War Doctor.”

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


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Rick | 2260 comments I watched Luca this past weekend. LOVED it!


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Loki episode 4: Well, that was a mess.
I don't dislike the show, but man I've got some doubts that they know what they're doing and can make the landing with just two episodes to go.

As a Who fan, I'm pretty forgiving if your rules for time travel are a little wonky, but....yikes, marvel!


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Rick | 2260 comments I spent the day driving to Detroit and experiencing the Beyond Van Gogh instillation. It was immersive and I was in tears by the end of it. Vincent Van Gogh is my favorite painter and Starry Night my favorite painting. It was like seeing the world through his eyes. Experiencing the world from within his paintings.
Absolutely breathtaking.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "I spent the day driving to Detroit and experiencing the Beyond Van Gogh instillation. It was immersive and I was in tears by the end of it. Vincent Van Gogh is my favorite painter and Starry Night ..."

Very cool.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments They are doing a recreation of 'Evil of the Daleks'!!!
there are clips and maybe even a trailer out there.
Looks like it may be entirely animation.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "They are doing a recreation of 'Evil of the Daleks'!!!
there are clips and maybe even a trailer out there.
Looks like it may be entirely animation."


Very cool.

Amazon has a new edition of The Web of Fear listed with the missing episode replaced with animation.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments apparently, they colorized the animation for Web of Fear.
Looks okay.
I think the B+W animation blends better with the old footage.

Interesting experiment, but nothing earth shattering.


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Rick | 2260 comments Did they not do both? When they’ve done full recreations for Power of the Daleks, Fury From the Deep & The Macra Terror they were released with both B&W and color versions,


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Did they not do both? When they’ve done full recreations for Power of the Daleks, Fury From the Deep & The Macra Terror they were released with both B&W and color versions,"

I'm only aware of the B+W animation.
No clue if they did color for any of the reconstructions.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments So, Loki has one more episode to go and everything points to it being a mess on par with the most convoluted of Doctor Who finales.

Richard E Grant was great, as always, but man, is Tom Hiddleston having to carry this thing.


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Rick | 2260 comments I’ve also just finished the second season of the Umbrella Academy and I’m rather surprised with the myriad similarities with that series and Loki. Had I watched Umbrella Academy when it first was released, I’d probably have not been so painfully aware of how much Loki is ... borrowing (to put it nicely) from Umbrella Academy. But then Loki is a mischievous, scheming, conniving, lying little bastard - so whatevs. And I’m still loving Loki anyway. Oh and Umbrella Academy season two was awesome. 😼


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Keep meaning to watch Umbrella Academy.
Read a couple of the comics, and loved Gerad Way's Doom Patrol comic, but I'm crazy behind on so many shows.

Loki's not bad, but its good moments, rather than a good whole.
If they can impress me with the finale, I'll forgive a lot, but this show really needed to be 8 or 9 episodes, as it feels rushed and relies way too much on telling us stuff, without showing us stuff.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... relies way too much on telling us stuff, without showing us stuff. "

Agreed, but I’m lovin’ it. 😼


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Rick | 2260 comments Way’s Doom Patrol is good but it can’t hold a candle to Morrison’s run. And the Invisibles by Morrison is even better.


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Rick | 2260 comments Actually I think I like the Umbrella Academy TV series more than the comic. Maybe.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... relies way too much on telling us stuff, without showing us stuff. "

Agreed, but I’m lovin’ it. 😼"


Don't hate it, but it ranks third of the Disney + series.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Actually I think I like the Umbrella Academy TV series more than the comic. Maybe."

Cool to hear.
There's a gap after Loki finishes.
Maybe I'll try it then.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Way’s Doom Patrol is good but it can’t hold a candle to Morrison’s run. And the Invisibles by Morrison is even better."

Morrison's run is definitely top of the list.
But, I'm a sucker for the Doom Patrol.
Own pretty much every version and like nearly all of them.

Liked that Way could do weird without feeling the need to go grim and gritty.
Nice sense of fun, mixed with all the trippiness.


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Rick | 2260 comments Have you seen the Doom Patrol TV series?


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Have you seen the Doom Patrol TV series?"

First couple episodes.
Like alot of TV, it is doing that annoying 'Oh boy! We can show swearing and blood!' which stops being shocking or interesting if you do it every episode, but the casting is solid and it is embracing the weirdness of the Patrol.
My wife is baffled, but I'm having fun.

Plus, despite him never being an actual member, their version of Cyborg is one of the best.


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Rick | 2260 comments And for me, Cyborg is one of the weaker aspects. Warner/DC keeps shoving him into groups as the token person of color, and it gets painfully obvious what they’re doing.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "And for me, Cyborg is one of the weaker aspects. Warner/DC keeps shoving him into groups as the token person of color, and it gets painfully obvious what they’re doing."

It's odd, because, the Doom Patrol has some minority characters that they could have used in that role, so it's distracting.
At the same time, he's so well written, that I can give it a pass.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... At the same time, he's so well written, that I can give it a pass."

Agreed.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Travis wrote: "... At the same time, he's so well written, that I can give it a pass."

Agreed."


Not to say, there isn't a lot of 'We need somebody black!' in comic book TV and movies, that does not work...yes, Iris West on the CW, I'm looking at you...that when they get it right, I appreciate it.


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Rick | 2260 comments Oh dear ... Iris West ... no comment.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Oh dear ... Iris West ... no comment."

Yeah, the CW has done some solid casting and character arcs...and then there's Iris.

I tolerate her, because I love the actor who plays her dad.


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Matthew Kresal | 118 comments Happy twentieth anniversary to Death Comes to Time!


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... I tolerate her, because I love the actor who plays her dad."

I hear ya.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments So, the Loki finale: wow, marvel just timeless child'd themselves.

Love Tom Hiddleston, but lord that series was a mess.


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "So, the Loki finale: wow, marvel just timeless child'd themselves.

Love Tom Hiddleston, but lord that series was a mess."


😹😹😹

I loved it. I wrote this in response to a friend that agree with an article that said it was a “story-killer.” I agreed with some of that, but the problem becomes a question of expectations. If the viewer is focused only on the lead character and their individual story arc. Sure. But if the viewer is watching it and sees that Loki is just a lead in, an introduction to something that is branching and growing and embracing more and more chaos, confusion and (perhaps even) madness with each new episode, with each new iteration, with each new ... variant. Then ... no, I don’t think this was any kind of a let down or story-killer or disappointment. I stopped expecting each film (or series) to be a complete, individual, and self contained story and ONLY a complete, individual, and self contained story when Thanos showed up in the mid credits scene of The Avengers. At that point all the MCU films (and now series) became components of a larger tale. This is EXACTLY what Marvel did with the comics in the 80s with the introduction of the company wide crossover events. But it began in the 60s when the Hulk comic was canceled and yet his story continued month by month as he guest-started in the pages of the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man, Daredevil, Journey into Mystery with Thor and culminated in a HUGE crossover in the Fantastic Four featuring the Hulk AND the Avengers, before the Hulk started co-starring in the anthology series Tales to Astonish with Giant-Man & the Wasp (their series ended about 10 issues later and then Namor the Sub-Mariner took over their spot and he & the Hulk shared the title until it ended with issue #101). But then there’s also the whole meta exploration of Loki going on. The whole concept on the variant and multiple Lokis is poking fun at audience expectations and even, excuse me here, playing mischief with the audience concepts of what to expect. If the viewer is looking for a nice tidy package with a beginning, middle and (expectedly traditional) ending ... well, all I’ve got to say is ... you’re watching the wrong show. This is Loki. The “god of mischief.” Expect to have your expectations subverted.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments There were some great moments and ideas, but they were just tossed in the blender.
The other two series contained set up, but were also a complete story on their own.
Loki is all set up and if you scrape it away, you'd be left with a two part story.
Even if people excuse this, because it's a cliffhanger for season 2...which no one has any idea when that's going to happen, then it's still just a mess.
It's, at best, a prologue, and people were told it was a series on its own.



I don't hate it, because there are so many bits they got right, and the finale almost saves it, but in the end, the good pieces still leave me feeling dissatisfied and kind of 'meh'.
I want to like it more, as it was ambitious, but I don't think it pulled it off.
Points for trying, maybe if it was a couple episodes longer it might have worked better.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Watching Star Wars: The Bad Batch makes me think I want to see stories about a mercenary team, set in the Whoniverse.

Either bounty hunters or just plain mercs for hire.
Maybe a mix of humans and Who aliens?
Obviously, jobs would go bad and they'd end up fighting Cybermen or dealing with the Slitheen.


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Rick | 2260 comments 😹😹😹

Would be fun.


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Rick | 2260 comments Saw Black Widow this afternoon. First time back in a theater in over a year. That felt good. Less than 20 people in the theater. That felt ... weird. Good movie. Really enjoyed it.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Saw Black Widow this afternoon. First time back in a theater in over a year. That felt good. Less than 20 people in the theater. That felt ... weird. Good movie. Really enjoyed it."

It was my first time back in a theater movie too.
My wife and I liked it, but yes it was a mix of fun and weird being in a room with twenty other people while watching a movie.
Movie theater seats were way comfier than I remember


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Rick | 2260 comments Travis wrote: "... Movie theater seats were way comfier than I remember"

Always depends on the theater. The last couple theaters in my town had TERRIBLE seating. But now ... they’ve closed. Yes, I live in a city without an open movie theater. There is still a movie theater on the college campus, but they don’t run movies for the public. So we had to drive to the next city to see the film.
And yes, I live in a small college town (technically it is a city), actually the county seat too, that doesn’t have an operating movie theater anymore. Kind of embarrassing. COVID-19 killed the last open movie theater in my town. I know there are thousands of small communities all over the US that don’t have movie theaters, in fact all the surrounding small communities of the city were I live don’t have movie theaters and haven’t had them for decades. But I never really thought my city would become one such place. We all have to leave the bedroom communities of Toledo and head to the outskirts of Toledo to go to a movie theater. Embarrassing.
Kind of the same thing with restaurants as well, but that’s another rant ... I mean - that’s another story.


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Rick | 2260 comments Finished I Am Not Okay With This. Too bad it didn’t get renewed for a second season. Interesting stuff. Very awkward, in much the same way Freaks & Geeks was awkward, and darkly comedic.

I also watched The Babysitter. Silly horror-comedy. Fun. Light. Fluffy. Or as fluffy as a babysitter who wants the blood of innocents for her demonic rituals can be. Sort of Home Alone meets Fright Night but with sociopaths instead of vampires. Entertaining, but don’t take anything too seriously.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Anderson watch:

Fireball XL-5: almost done. Clunky, old school sci-fi. Fun.

Captain Scarlet: Think I'm giving up on this one. Love the ideas, but man, it takes itself so seriously that it sucks any sense of fun out of this.
Might have worked better as a live action.

Thunderbirds: watched the trailer for a newer animated series. Not rushing to check it out. The animation on the people isn't great and Dad Tracey is gone and it's all the boys carrying on his mission.


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Rick | 2260 comments Of the marionette shows, Thunderbirds is the only one I’ve seen. The others just weren’t available on TV when I was a kid. But I did LOVE Thunderbirds ! I’ve got the whole set on disc now, but I’ve only made it through the whole series once.


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Travis (travishiltz) | 2397 comments Rick wrote: "Of the marionette shows, Thunderbirds is the only one I’ve seen. The others just weren’t available on TV when I was a kid. But I did LOVE Thunderbirds ! I’ve got the whole set on disc now, but I’ve..."

Thunderbirds is definitely the best of the bunch.
The others are fun, and worth a look, but I would say check them out on streaming, rather than buy the DVD.
Fireball XL-5 is probably second place. It's goofy space opera.

Stingray is decent, but the love triangle gets on my nerves and Captain Scarlet takes itself waaaaay too seriously. Which is weird when you have an all girl pilot squad on your show.


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