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Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
Every month we discuss a book on a specific era or a theme. This book will be the winner of a group poll.


Our June 2019 theme is...

...I T A L Y

If you feel inspired, please nominate a book set in, or about, Italy that you would like to read and discuss.

It can be either fiction or non-fiction.

Please supply the title, author, a brief synopsis, and anything else you'd like to mention about the book, and why you think it might make a good book to discuss.

If your nomination wins then please be willing to fully participate in the subsequent discussion.

Happy nominating.




message 2: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Mar 23, 2019 09:17AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) As I said over in the Midnight Bell thread, I spent some time looking at Italy books yesterday. Lots and lots and lots of books outside of our target time period. I saw several books that I've already read that might be interesting, but I'm not a re-reader.

I found something I think might be a bit different for this group, though perhaps more appropriate for the detectives group. Still, I it might have something broader to offer.

The Shape of Water by Andrea Camilleri.

The Shape of Water is the first in Andrea Camilleri's wry, brilliantly compelling Sicilian crime series, featuring Inspector Montalbano.

The goats of Vigàta once grazed on the trash-strewn site still known as the Pasture. Now local enterprise of a different sort flourishes: drug dealers and prostitutes of every flavour. But their discreet trade is upset when two employees of the Splendour Refuse Collection Company discover the body of engineer Silvio Luparello, one of the local movers and shakers, apparently deceased in flagrante at the Pasture. The coroner's verdict is death from natural causes - refreshingly unusual for Sicily.

But Inspector Salvo Montalbano, as honest as he is streetwise and as scathing to fools and villains as he is compassionate to their victims, is not ready to close the case - even though he's being pressured by Vigàta's police chief, judge, and bishop.

Picking his way through a labyrinth of high-comedy corruption, delicious meals, vendetta firepower, and carefully planted false clues, Montalbano can be relied on, whatever the cost, to get to the heart of the matter.
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I think this might prove an interesting discussion for the setting alone, but also because Sicily has the Mafia and crime/corruption in its history. In the US, it has a reasonably priced (though not cheap) kindle edition, with easy access to even lower-priced used copies. I don't know what might be available in the UK.


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1655 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "As I said over in the Midnight Bell thread, I spent some time looking at Italy books yesterday. Lots and lots and lots of books outside of our target time period. I saw several books that I've alre..."

Good book. Although I'm not sure I would re-read it. I'm getting ready to start the 6th in the series, The Smell of the Night. But I do enjoy the series.


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1655 comments I started Death and the Dolce Vita: The Dark Side of Rome in the 1950s, by Stephen Gundle, quite a while ago. but as I recall it was pretty interesting. Kind of a true crime read.

On 9 April 1953 an attractive twenty-one-year-old woman went missing from her family home in Rome. Thirty-six hours later her body was found washed up on a neglected beach at Tor Vaianica. Some said it was suicide; others, a tragic accident. Darker murmurs blamed her death on a drug-fuelled orgy that had gone horribly wrong. The crime gripped the nation. And some were determined to find out the truth of what had happened: the mystery took them from the capital’s seediest back streets right up to the highest office in the land.

Dolce Vita casts fascinating light on the myriad colours and contradictions of Rome in the 1950s. Stephen Gundle portrays the Rome of romance, luxury and glamour; the Rome of flowers, fountains and Vespas. It is Rome as a film set- embodied by Audrey Hepburn and Gregory Peck in Roman Holiday. But the murder of Wilma Montesi exposed the other side of this beautiful city: carnal crimes, sex, drugs, corruption and endless cover-ups.

Stephen Gundle picks his way through the evidence to expose the foul underbelly of Rome in the 1950s – a place of bitter hearts and broken dreams.

I've been reading it on Kindle so perhaps it is available internationally.


message 5: by Val (new)

Val | 1707 comments I have a bowl of cheap whore's pasta (puttanesca with marmite instead of anchovy paste) and a glass of Chianti to focus my attention, but still can't decide between my two favourite books by Italian authors or the first in a popular series I only read the last of.


message 6: by Susan (new)

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Two good suggestions so far and both already on my kindle, ready to be read. Val, liking the sound of your dinner, until you got to the marmite... As my grandfather was Italian, I feel I need to come up with something, so will have a think.


message 7: by Val (new)

Val | 1707 comments It does work Susan, but if you have a more authentic vegan or vegetarian alternative for the salty, savoury ingredient I will give it a try next time.


message 8: by Susan (new)

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Sadly, I cannot provide a suitable alternative, Val. My apologies. x


message 9: by Susan (new)

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I will nominate: A Bold and Dangerous Family: One Family’s Fight Against Italian Fascism A Bold and Dangerous Family One Family’s Fight Against Italian Fascism by Caroline Moorehead

SHORTLISTED FOR THE COSTA BIOGRAPHY AWARD

Mussolini was not only ruthless: he was subtle and manipulative. Black-shirted thugs did his dirty work for him: arson, murder, destruction of homes and offices, bribes and intimidation. His opponents – including editors, union representatives, lawyers and judges – were beaten into submission. But the tide turned in 1924 when his assassins went too far, horror spread across Italy, and antifascist resistance was born. Among those whose disgust hardened into bold and uncompromising resistance was a family from Florence: Amelia, Carlo and Nello Rosselli. Caroline Moorehead draws readers into the lives of this remarkable family – their loves, their loyalties, their laughter and their ultimate sacrifice.


message 10: by Judy (last edited Mar 24, 2019 02:32AM) (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4841 comments Mod
Great nominations so far!

I'll nominate My Brilliant Friend, My Brilliant Friend (The Neapolitan Novels, #1) by Elena Ferrante the first of the Neapolitan novels by Elena Ferrante, as I have it waiting on my shelf and have been told it is great. This was published in 2012 but is mostly set in Naples during the 1950s.

The Goodreads blurb:

A modern masterpiece from one of Italy's most acclaimed authors, My Brilliant Friend is a rich, intense and generous hearted story about two friends, Elena and Lila. Ferrante's inimitable style lends itself perfectly to a meticulous portrait of these two women that is also the story of a nation and a touching meditation on the nature of friendship. Through the lives of these two women, Ferrante tells the story of a neighbourhood, a city and a country as it is transformed in ways that, in turn, also transform the relationship between her two protagonists.


message 12: by Pamela (last edited Mar 24, 2019 04:01AM) (new)

Pamela (bibliohound) | 555 comments I would like to nominate a classic- Christ Stopped at Eboli.

The synopsis: 'We're not Christians, Christ stopped short of here, at Eboli.' Exiled to a remote and barren corner of Italy for his opposition to Mussolini, Carlo Levi entered a world cut off from history and the state, hedged in by custom and sorrow, without comfort or solace, where, eternally patient, the peasants lived in an age-old stillness and in the presence of death - for Christ did stop at Eboli.

This was one of my favourite books when I was at University many years ago, it shows a really unusual perspective on Italy and is beautifully written.


message 13: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12063 comments Mod
I completely fell head over heels for Ferrante's quartet when I read it!


message 14: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 789 comments It might be interesting to reread The Leopard


message 15: by Roman Clodia (new)

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Haha, that was on my mental list, too, Hugh. Is there some connection between Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa and Bassani - or have I invented that in my head?


message 16: by Susan (new)

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I thought of The Leopard, but wasn't sure it was really within our time frame. However, I guess it doesn't matter too much.


Elizabeth (Alaska) Susan wrote: "I thought of The Leopard, but wasn't sure it was really within our time frame. However, I guess it doesn't matter too much."

I thought of it and discarded the thought for the same reason.


message 18: by Roman Clodia (new)

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Oh, but it was written in the twentieth century, wasn't it (1950s?) even if the setting is earlier?


message 19: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 789 comments Well it was written well within our period and although the setting is 19th century it is about the foundations of modern Italy...


message 20: by Susan (new)

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Yes, the setting is earlier, but I am not sure of publication date. Perhaps I discarded it incorrectly - Hugh, feel free to nominate. The more the merrier.


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Hugh (bodachliath) | 789 comments Published in 1958


Elizabeth (Alaska) Susan wrote: "Yes, the setting is earlier, but I am not sure of publication date. Perhaps I discarded it incorrectly - Hugh, feel free to nominate. The more the merrier."

The original pub date is on most GR pages.


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Pamela (bibliohound) | 555 comments Roman Clodia wrote: "I completely fell head over heels for Ferrante's quartet when I read it!"

I read the first book and hated it, I was so disappointed! I have the second book but just can't face it.


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Karen | 11 comments The Garden of the Finzi-Continis by Giorgio Bassani
Giorgio Bassani's acclaimed novel of unrequited love and the plight of the Italian Jews on the brink of World War II has become a classic of modern Italian literature.
Made into an Academy Award winning film in 1970, "The Garden of the Finzi Continis "is a richly evocative and nostalgic depiction of prewar Italy. The narrator, a young middle-class Jew in the Italian city of Ferrara, has long been fascinated from afar by the Finzi-Continis, a wealthy and aristocratic Jewish family, and especially by their charming daughter Micol. But it is not until 1938 that he is invited behind the walls of their lavish estate, as local Jews begin to gather there to avoid the racial laws of the Fascists, and the garden of the Finzi-Continis becomes a sort of idyllic sanctuary in an increasingly brutal world. Years later after the war, the narrator returns in memory to his doomed relationship with the lovely Micol, and to the predicament that faced all the Ferrarese Jews, in this unforgettably wrenching portrait of a community about to be destroyed by the world outside the garden walls."


message 26: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4841 comments Mod
I really want to read The Garden of the Finz-Continis - also The Leopard. I'm not sure if Hugh was nominating that one?


message 27: by Story (new)

Story (storyheart) Roman Clodia wrote: "I completely fell head over heels for Ferrante's quartet when I read it!"

Me too!


message 28: by Val (new)

Val | 1707 comments If Hugh does not decide to nominate The Leopard then I will. It is a wonderful book.
It is one of the three I wanted to nominate, but I was hesitating about the time frame. It is set during the Risorgiomento (unification of Italy), but was written and published in the twentieth century, so I think we could discuss more recent issues as well as historical ones.


message 29: by Nigeyb (last edited Mar 24, 2019 11:34PM) (new)

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I agree Val - let's feel free to expand out of the 20th century when we feel like it, especially as it was written in the 20th century.

And, of course, we are discussing Charles Dickens this month.

So Val, if Hugh nominates The Leopard by Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa would you nominate something else? Or shall I just put it down by your name?


message 30: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 789 comments Ok I'll confirm my nomination of The Leopard


message 31: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 789 comments ... but I could still be very tempted to vote for Bassani.


message 32: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
Hurrah - thanks Hugh


message 34: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
An embarrassment of riches. Again.


message 35: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14249 comments Mod
Yes, excellent nominations. What is more, I have never read any of them, which is fantastic, but makes the choice more difficult...


message 36: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4841 comments Mod
Christ Stopped at Eboli is excellent.


message 37: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12063 comments Mod
I've read three (Shape of Water, The Leopard, My Brilliant Friend) and all were 4-5 stars for me.


message 38: by Val (new)

Val | 1707 comments I nominate The Little World of Don Camillo by Giovannino Guareschi The Little World of Don Camillo by Giovannino Guareschi.

Very funny short stories about a priest, a communist and other villagers, which also say quite a lot about post-war Italy.


message 39: by Susan (new)

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Oh, I LOVED Don Camillo as a child, Val. I would adore re-visting the books.


message 41: by Roman Clodia (new)

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I don't think I'll nominate this month as there are so many great choices already :))


message 42: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (bibliohound) | 555 comments Not nominations as I've already nominated but another couple of non-fiction books I've recently enjoyed and might interest others here are

Fascist Voices: An Intimate History of Mussolini's Italy
and
Dolce Vita Confidential: Fellini, Loren, Pucci, Paparazzi, and the Swinging High Life of 1950s Rome


message 43: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
Thanks Pamela. That second book, Dolce Vita Confidential: Fellini, Loren, Pucci, Paparazzi, and the Swinging High Life of 1950s Rome, appears to cover very similar ground to Jan's nomination, Death and the Dolce Vita: The Dark Side of Rome in the 1950s by Stephen Gundle. I wonder who got there first and which is the better read?

Like Roman Clodia, I already feel spoiled for choice so will put my potential nomination back in the locker and try to make a decision based on what we've got so far.

Is anyone else considering a nomination?


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Rosina (rosinarowantree) | 411 comments Susan wrote: "Oh, I LOVED Don Camillo as a child, Val. I would adore re-visting the books."

I remember it as a BBC series, with Brian Blessed as Peppone. But I don't think I ever read the books


message 45: by Susan (new)

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I don't remember the series, Rosina. I never had the books (I think they were out of print) but the library had a huge, collected volume, that I took out and renewed for about a year!


message 47: by Val (new)

Val | 1707 comments They are available on kindle now in the UK. I can't check kindle availability for the rest of the world unfortunately.


message 48: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
The poll is up....


https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...

Please vote for the book you'd most like to read and discuss




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Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
#pollwatch



The Little World of Don Camillo - 4 votes, 33.3%
Death and the Dolce Vita: The Dark Side of Rome in the 1950s - 2 votes, 16.7%
The Garden of the Finzi-Continis - 2 votes, 16.7%
Christ Stopped at Eboli: The Story of a Year - 1 vote, 8.3%
My Brilliant Friend (The Neapolitan Novels, #1) - 1 vote, 8.3%
The Shape of Water (Inspector Montalbano, #1) - 1 vote, 8.3%
The Leopard - 1 vote, 8.3%
A Bold and Dangerous Family: The Remarkable Story of an Italian Mother, Her Two Sons, and Their Fight Against Fascism - 0 votes, 0.0%

VOTE HERE....
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...




message 50: by Nigeyb (last edited Mar 29, 2019 07:31AM) (new)

Nigeyb | 15937 comments Mod
The results are in and the winner of the poll is....


The Little World of Don Camillo by Giovannino Guareschi


The Moderators' Choice to accompany The Little World of Don Camillo is the book which came second in the poll...

The Leopard by Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa


Thanks to everyone who nominated, discussed and voted






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