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Love the topic because I’ve tried almost every diet out there. I find that for me, intermittent fasting i.e. 16-24 hours, followed by a diet high in green veggies, healthy(including animal and plant) fats with small amounts of low sugar fruits to be best plan. The intermittent fasting doesn’t allow me to eat too many calories even if I cheat with stuff like Pizza and beer. I also tend to think that soft drinks and alcohol should be sparingly consumed-the problem is I enjoy Diet Coke(which is horrible I know) and the occasional drink.
Mark Sisson’s Primal Blueprint, to me, stands above many other diet/lifestyle plans as it allows for a little fun, but uses above mentioned eating plan for 80% of the time. This leaves you about 3-4 meals per week that you can moderately eat whatever foods you enjoy.
He also advocates for lots of slow moving like walking, yoga, tai chi plus the occasional all out sprint plus lifting heavy things a couple times a week. He also advocates playing out in the sunshine whenever possible.
Not sharing this to promote veganism (as I've never tried that), but rather just to show there may be another way...Plus, there's some good humor in here as he speaks like Morpheus from The Matrix and looks a bit like him too (plus he has the all seeing eye on his wand or rod or whatever it is he's holding!)...Vegan Strongman Eats ONE MEAL A DAY ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1FC...
I'd recommend organic meat, vegetables and so on, and not farmed fish as they can be fed a terrible diet with toxins our body can't get rid of and can therefore cause cancer. Maybe organic farmed fish is okay, but I don't like the idea of organic salmon because they are programmed for an entirely different life.
If produce in general isn't organic the soil can be so depleted and poisoned that even fruit and vegetables aren't healthy, and then there's the pesticides used on the plants themselves...
If produce in general isn't organic the soil can be so depleted and poisoned that even fruit and vegetables aren't healthy, and then there's the pesticides used on the plants themselves...
Organic salmon is farmed. Salmon are programmed to make an arduous journey upstream, not to stay on a farm.
Arizona man, 110 years-old, credits long life and health to 5 foods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAvT...
Iain wrote: "does anyone have info on what foods can actually temporarily impair or inhibit brain function?..."The beer diet is rumoured to hinder brain performance...Although more studies need to be done...
AUTOPHAGY FASTING - How Long Should You Fast to Maximize Your Health Benefits? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UgLu...What happens if you fast for 13 hr 2:16
Growth Hormone 2:49
How long should you fast to get maximum of Autophagy 3:15
James wrote: "Iain wrote: "does anyone have info on what foods can actually temporarily impair or inhibit brain function?..."The beer diet is rumoured to hinder brain performance...Although more studies need t..."
The beer diet hasn't hindered me... according to me.
Not promoting veganism, but this doctor is worth a listen as he has a lot of knowledge and wisdom on nutrition in general, I sense..."Dr. Ellsworth Wareham - 98 years old vegan" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58P...
Iain wrote: "Still not convinced eliminating meat entirely is the way to go. ..."Me neither but so far I'm finding pescatarian diet is a good middle ground in that you can have really large protein servings but not getting the problems associated with red meat.
But that's just my personal experience of course.
I am reading so many positives, however, in studies about those who eat exclusively or else primarily plant based diets.
Am personally making sure that most of my seafood is not from a farm but ocean caught fresh seafood. As much as I can anyway
Dunno, I think everything if you take it to the extremes might be polluted or contaminated in the modern world, even organic fruits and vegetables. But I think overall seafood that's ocean caught would be closer to original nature than say red meat, chicken etc, where they are pumped full of hormones, steroids, with GMO diets. Just my opinion. Keep in mind also there are degrees of pescatarian in that many are basically vegetarians or vegans who add fish sometimes for protein or whatever.
Not sure all or even most vegans are rich, mate. Meat, white or red, can be expensive too. For example, much of India's population is vegan or vegetarian I think.Wonder what the vegan Morpheus would say?
There's even more evidence that one type of diet is the best for your body and brain https://www.businessinsider.com.au/be...
I tried Veganism for one week-Hated myself and everyone around me 😂 More power to those who can do it, I found it insanely difficult to keep within the parameters. Lately, I did discover a “paleo-terian” book that looked interesting...it essentially advocates for a mostly fat full, plant based diet but allows for some fatty fish and eggs occasionally too. I’m cool with that-I could give up chicken and red meat 90 percent if I can still eat eggs and salmon sushi 😉
I'm laughing how this thread on diet and nutrition is turning political!! haha
Serious question....is alcohol Vegan? I’m enjoying some delicious Rum called Bumbu while reading this thread! I don’t drink too often but when I do, it’s the good stuff 😂
Food Revolution https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2...The modern industrialized diet is the primary culprit behind heart disease, cancer, Alzheimer’s, type 2 diabetes, and obesity with a massive study finding 11 million deaths worldwide last year. Ocean Robbins, CEO of the Food Revolution Network, joined guest host Lisa Garr (email) in the first half to discuss his mission to transform the industrialized food culture into one that supports healthy people and a healthy planet. Robbins' father, John Robbins, walked away from taking over his father’s company as president of the Baskin-Robbins corporation to write the acclaimed book "Diet For A New America," which outlined a radically different way of eating for a healthy life. Ocean Robbins carries on his father’s work, crusading for an end to GMOs, pesticides, and factory farms, which he says are all part of the "toxic food culture" in which we live.
Robbins said that most physicians do not learn about diet in medical school, which he says would prevent many of the diseases that their patients suffer. He also pointed out that "we are strip mining our oceans and our fish stocks are being seriously depleted," and suggested that those who eat fish should concentrate on the smaller species, since they are lower on the food chain and would not have concentrations of harmful chemicals that fish such as tuna and swordfish might. Robbins is a tireless advocate for locally sourced food and growing your own in a home garden, saying that "if half the lawns in the country were converted to food production, we would increase food production by 30%." He also touted chocolate as a superfood, but added that dark chocolate was best for cutting the risk of heart disease.
Good Morning! I wanted to tell everyone on here that for the last 5 weeks and 2 days I have been following the Men’s Health Killing Fat diet book program. It’s super simple:Carbohydrate rich meals at 1600 cals for 2 weeks, then 1500 for 2 weeks then 1400 for two weeks. Women drop a hundred cals off the plan each week. The work out he recommends is negative accentuated reps full body 2x a week. He also recommends cold showers, Ice packs on your upper back or cold dips to bring core temp of body down...by doing this your body has to shiver to bring it back up, this burning calories and supposedly activating brown fat.
The results after 5 weeks: 17 lbs down. This isn’t water weight either because I can look in mirror and see results and my clothes suddenly fit again...some are even loose! Here’s the real kicker-I cheated on this diet at least once a weekend....I even went to the Kentucky Derby and cheated for 4 straight days with decadent food and juleps, still this much down. I can only imagine had I not cheated.
I will stay with this until I hit my desired weight loss.
P.S. I decided to take up ruck walking(military style) 3 times a week as primary exercise...lift weights once to two times per week now.
B. wrote: "Good Morning! I wanted to tell everyone on here that for the last 5 weeks and 2 days I have been following the Men’s Health Killing Fat diet book program. It’s super simple:Carbohydrate rich meals..."
Hey B - Keep us posted on how it goes for you. Your diet sounds like the exact opposite of one of the better known high protein/low carbs diets that apparently gets spectacular results for rapid weight loss. Can't remember the name of the diet but I know a lot of bodybuilders swear by it. Can't help but wonder is it yet another example of the old adage, "All diets work and all diets don't work?" At the end of the day I think moderation (boring I know) and balance (protein + carbs) are the keys to any diet along with regular exercise.
Sounds like you have the exercise side of the equation sorted at least!
Stay in touch mate.
Lance:Yeah, it’s been a crazy ride! I used to be a dyed in the wool supporter of a paleo/Keto low carb lifestyle. I had actually brainwashed myself that it was the only way....until it stopped working for me. I found it hard to maintain over a long period of time, especially around holidays. My wife on the other hand eats what she wants and stays skinny-now, don’t get me wrong, genetics play a role, but her adage was always what you described “everything in moderation”. I found the book Killing Fat by Ellington Darden completely by accident and decided what the hell. It’s amazing that without cutting any particular food out(even though I cut back on cocktail consumption), I was able to lose this kind of real weight, not just water weight!
I will definitely keep y’all updated with my progress. I thought y’all would also enjoy this because it’s “underground knowledge” in the sense that this author believes Cold affects brown fat stores, which is considered dubious in some circles, but as we know, many scientific discoveries start off being laughed at in scientific circles.
B. wrote: "Lance:Yeah, it’s been a crazy ride! I used to be a dyed in the wool supporter of a paleo/Keto low carb lifestyle. I had actually brainwashed myself that it was the only way....until it stopped wo..."
Good one B.
I reckon your wife's got the right idea... Moderation! You should listen to her. In fact, we should all listen to our wives...
Ha! I've just had a flashback to a taxi ride I once had in Fiji. My Indian driver (cabbie) had a sign on his dash that read: "No life without wife." His name, incidentally, was Elvis. No kidding. That was many years ago. I guess by now Elvis has left the taxi business.
But I digress...
From my limited and 'amateur' research, there are only three types of food: fats, carbohydrates and protein. I think that different body types/ metabolisms react to these foods in different ways. Therefore there is no one diet that fits all people. For me, I appear to be sensitive to sugar (carbs) and what I thought was a healthy breakfast (honey on toast, muesli, low fat milk and juice was actually killing me. Five years ago I was diagnosed as diabetic. Taking advise from Mosley, Diet Doctor and the Newcastle protocol, I lost 17 kilos in three months and still weigh the same today. The 'cure' for me was simple: Free range eggs for breakfast, Weight training , hit (5 minutes three times a week) and a reasonable low carb diet. My diabetes is still in remission. Cholesterol is perfect.My lovely wife can eat all the carbs she likes with little or no effect on her metabolism.
Tony wrote: "From my limited and 'amateur' research, there are only three types of food: fats, carbohydrates and protein. I think that different body types/ metabolisms react to these foods in different ways. T..."Wow that's a great endorsement for eggs, Tony. (And for wives!).
Years ago when 'experts' were convinced eggs caused high cholesterol my gym trainer put all overweight members on an egg-heavy diet + plenty of meat + weight training and everyone thought he was crazy, but the guys ALL lost weight and gained strength and fitness. Now the egg component of his diet at least is widely accepted today.
Agree Lance, Have you also looked at the book called 'Perfect drinking'. Written by a retired senior member of the WHO, it says that a person can have up to 8 units of alcohol a day without hurting them. But it must be evening drinking. Now that is underground knowledge!
Tony, you are correct in saying that everyone reacts differently to different diets. The interesting thing for me is that I used to stop eating carbs and weight would fly off of me. Over the years, I go-yo dieted and I wound up in fat boy hell! I was lifting really heavy, low carbing, practicing Brazilian jiu-jitsu regularly(talk about cardio!) and I was gaining weight....and not just muscle...I was downright fat. I still lift, but I focus on slower reps and I do like 2 full body workouts and then do my weighted ruck walks like 3 times per week. On this “diet”, I have consumes sushi, cookies, pizza, burgers, cake, beers mint juleps and other cocktails, dairy, wheat, poboys, chips, etc....the weight keeps coming off. Now...I still believe that a Keto plan is the best for bloodwork and overall health due to recent science on what actually causes plaque in arteries(fat plus sugar over time). With all of that said, I’m actually starting to see outline of a six pack and clothes are fitting better...I guess it’s one step at a time for me...as an amateur bio-hacker, I plan to combine low cal with low carb and see where it takes me! Back to the different strokes for different folks-my little brother decided to go semi-paleo....I say semi because he still eats some processed foods like salad dressing-we jokingly say he went on the Caesar salad diet lol. Anyway, he cut out all processed carbs, but still ate moderate fruit, some craft beer and cocktails, but mostly eats veggies and lean meat. He lost over 20 lbs in about a month and a half....so goes to show that you and Lance are both correct! All diets work and all fail, just have to find what works best for you personally 😃
*sorry for typos and autocorrects!One other note, I took a gut biome test and sent to Thryve lab. The results were interesting-though I had a fairly flourishing biome, I was lacking in some very important bacteria which help with weight loss, gas, bloating, irregular bowel activity(gross I know!), etc. On my current plan, I’ve also incorporated things like Kefir, Greek yogurt, kimchi, and other fermented foods along with lots of recommended pre-biopics that feed these bacteria. So far, things couldn’t be better!!
Very interesting thread B. I do heavy weights twice a week and what I call 'fast fit'. This is simply three, 30 second reps on a stationery bike at full speed. One minute rest in in-between. It is absolutely exhausting. I remember when I engaged in athletics in my youth, the 400 metre race challenged me more physically than 5000 metres. And I drink too much low carb beer. Cheers!
Tony wrote: "Agree Lance, Have you also looked at the book called 'Perfect drinking'. Written by a retired senior member of the WHO, it says that a person can have up to 8 units of alcohol a day without hurting..."I suspect the senior member has had one drink too many!
Ha. I always stop before 'too many' I hope...
Tony wrote: "Ha. I always stop before 'too many' I hope..."I heard we should abstain from alcohol three times a week for the sake of the liver. Ah well...they did say moderation is boring.
Rahul wrote: "mango"Do feel free to enlarge on your solitary words of wisdom, Rahul.
Undergrounders are not limited to one-word posts...
Food Brand Tricks Critics With New Vegan Bacon And Chicken https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/f...Fooling the critics
The brand held a tasting event for 25 food critics and influencers and asked them to review a three-course meal, featuring THIS products.
Secret cameras revealed diners complimenting the food, with one describing the chicken as 'delicious' and another saying it was 'beautiful'.
After the meal, THIS founders Andy Shovel and Pete Sharman revealed that the food was all plant-based.
TRICKING MEAT EATERS w/ Vegan Bacon & Chicken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVVO9...
So after considering vegetarian and vegan diets, I have decided instead on trying out a Pescetarian diet (for those who don't know, that basically means a vegetarian but including unlimited amounts of seafood in your diet as well).
But I'm interested to know what others are eating.
And what you consider might be the optimum diet?
I'm aware of course there is no one size fits all, however.