Nominations Open - Feb 2019 Reading Group Challenge - Mysteries Pre-1900

[Bill]

Based on the poll I conducted in Dec, I'm going to switch from last year's Alphabetical Mystery Group Reads to a Decades Challenge. So for February 2019, let's take a look at mysteries written pre-1900. This might seem limiting, so I've provided a link to an article entitled The first 100 years of Detective Fiction, which starts in the 1800's. If you use it, note that some of the books featured were published in the early 1900's so please avoid them. Also if you want, feel free to nominate short stories. I think there are lots to choose from and I hope it's interesting. One other thing to consider before you nominate a book / short story is that you do a quick check to ensure that copies are available.

So this is the link -

http://www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/etex...

Happy New Year everyone and I hope your 2019 reading choices are all interesting.

[Gisela]

How aboutDora Myrl: The Lady Detective. Looked it up and there is a 99p kindle edition!

[Bill]

Gisela wrote: "How aboutDora Myrl: The Lady Detective. Looked it up and there is a 99p kindle edition!"

I may be wrong but it seems this book was published in 1900... lol There are other books by Bodkin which were published before 1900... e.g. Paul Beck: The Rule of Thumb Detective (1898)... Sorry for being picky, but the next Decade challenge will go from 1900 - 1909...

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

There are tons of choices available for pre-1900 crime novels. I know -- I read several of them in 2017.

I'm not nominating any of these myself, but I'll be happy to throw out some of the titles I read if it helps:

The String of Pearls: The Original Sweeney Todd, by Thomas Presket Prest

The Leavenworth Case, by Anna Katherine Green

The Moonstone, by Wilkie Collins

Miss Cayley's Adventures, by Grant Allen

The Experiences of Loveday Brooke, Lady Detective, by Catherine Louisa Pirkis

Checkmate, by J. Sheridan Le Fanu

The Female Detective, by Andrew Forrester

Lady Audley's Secret, by Mary Elizabeth Braddon

[Angie]

I was waiting to see what other people were going to nominate, but I'll go ahead and throw one out there. It's kind of an obvious one, but there are some interesting talking points, and it is a seminal work:

A Study in Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

[Jen]

Nancy wrote: "There are tons of choices available for pre-1900 crime novels. I know -- I read several of them in 2017.

I'm not nominating any of these myself, but I'll be happy to throw out some of the titles I..."

This is a great list--thanks!

[Bill]

Nancy wrote: "There are tons of choices available for pre-1900 crime novels. I know -- I read several of them in 2017.

I'm not nominating any of these myself, but I'll be happy to throw out some of the titles I..."

I read The Leavenworth Case because of you.. :) I'd never heard it before that.

[Bill]

Nominations -

1. A Study in Scarlet by Arthur Conan Doyle (nominated by Angie)
2. The String of Pearls: The Original Tale of Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street by Thomas Preskett Prest (nominated by Patty)
3. The Leavenworth Case by Anna Katharine Green (nominated by Susanna)
4. The Moonstone by Wilkie Collins (nominated by Suzy)
5. The Widow Lerouge by Émile Gaboriau (nominated by Laurence)

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Jen wrote: "Nancy wrote: "There are tons of choices available for pre-1900 crime novels. I know -- I read several of them in 2017.

I'm not nominating any of these myself, but I'll be happy to throw out some o..."

Jen wrote: "Nancy wrote: "There are tons of choices available for pre-1900 crime novels. I know -- I read several of them in 2017.

I'm not nominating any of these myself, but I'll be happy to throw out some o..."

You're welcome. I loved The Moonstone, and Miss Cayley was a hoot, a breath of fresh air in the Victorian crime writing world. It's available at project Gutenburg, complete with illustrations.

[Bill]

Nancy wrote: "Jen wrote: "Nancy wrote: "There are tons of choices available for pre-1900 crime novels. I know -- I read several of them in 2017.

I'm not nominating any of these myself, but I'll be happy to thro..."

I enjoyed The Moonstone as well.. I liked how it was presented.

[Patty]

Ooh...The String of Pearls is hereby nominated.

[Bill]

Patty wrote: "Ooh...The String of Pearls is hereby nominated."

You're nominating it, Patty?
The String of Pearls: The Original Tale of Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street by Thomas Preskett Prest ?

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Patty wrote: "Ooh...The String of Pearls is hereby nominated."

Also fun. Not very well written, but sometimes you have to make allowances because of the fun quotient involved.

[Patty]

Was I allowed to nominate that book?

[Susanna - Censored by GoodReads]

I'm going to nominate The Leavenworth Case, by Anna Katherine Green.

[Bill]

Patty wrote: "Was I allowed to nominate that book?"

Of course Patty, I was just confirming with you.. I'll add it to the list.

[Gisela]

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "I'm going to nominate The Leavenworth Case, by Anna Katherine Green."
This one looks very interesting. Can't remember if we second in his group, but if we do, I'll second it.

[Bill]

Gisela wrote: "Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "I'm going to nominate The Leavenworth Case, by Anna Katherine Green."
This one looks very interesting. Can't remember if we second in his grou..."

We don't but that's ok.. :)

[Angelina]

Looking forward To these and hope I can find copies.

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

AH wrote: "Looking forward To these and hope I can find copies."

String of Pearls -- https://archive.org/details/stringofp...

The Leavenworth Case
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4047

A Study in Scarlet ought to be widely available.

[Patty]

Thanks, Nancy; Bill’s comment threw me.

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

It's all good. I think he was just double checking. We do that sometimes, you know.

:)

[Suzy]

Well, I'll nominate The Moonstone since I've been wanting to read it for the longest! (P.S. Bill I'm jazzed about the decades framework for our nominations!)

[Bill]

Suzy wrote: "Well, I'll nominate The Moonstone since I've been wanting to read it for the longest! (P.S. Bill I'm jazzed about the decades framework for our nominations!)"

Glad you like the idea, Suzy. I'm looking forward to the change as well.. There is always such a nice variety with Nancy's group read challenges. I was hoping to do something a bit different myself.. :)

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Suzy wrote: "Well, I'll nominate The Moonstone since I've been wanting to read it for the longest! (P.S. Bill I'm jazzed about the decades framework for our nominations!)"

After you read the book (and not until then!) see if you can find the latest BBC version of The Moonstone. It's pretty faithful to the novel (with a few changes), and the best version I've seen so far.

[Suzy]

Nancy wrote: "Suzy wrote: "Well, I'll nominate The Moonstone since I've been wanting to read it for the longest! (P.S. Bill I'm jazzed about the decades framework for our nominations!)"

After you re..."

I will look for it. Did you watch The Woman in White that was recently aired on PBS? I have it in my DVR but haven't watched yet.

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Suzy wrote: "Nancy wrote: "Suzy wrote: "Well, I'll nominate The Moonstone since I've been wanting to read it for the longest! (P.S. Bill I'm jazzed about the decades framework for our nominations!)"..."

I did watch the latest version of Woman in White, then read the book again afterwards. Count Fosco has long been my favorite British villain.

[Bill]

I really enjoyed the TV mini series of Woman in White. I've not read the book. Was if faithful to it?

[John]

What network was this program on?

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Bill wrote: "I really enjoyed the TV mini series of Woman in White. I've not read the book. Was if faithful to it?"

For the most part, yes, but of course they're going to change some of it.

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

John wrote: "What network was this program on?"

I saw it on PBS Masterpiece.

[Bill]

We've got four nominations so far, which is probably OK. One other I'm checking on. I'll keep the nominations open until the 9th or 10th...

[Gisela]

Nancy wrote: "It's all good. I think he was just double checking. We do that sometimes, you know.

:)"

Patty wrote: "Thanks, Nancy; Bill’s comment threw me."
Mia culpa, as usual. Patty it's me, I get this so wrong time and time again! Thanks Bill and Nancy for checking and not losing faith with me. :)

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Gisela wrote: "Nancy wrote: "It's all good. I think he was just double checking. We do that sometimes, you know.

:)"

Patty wrote: "Thanks, Nancy; Bill’s comment threw me."
Mia culpa, as usual. Patty it's me, I ..."

Oh, Gisela. It's sooo not you. I check everyone's nomination to make sure of many things, most especially availablity of books in various formats. I haven't and never will lose faith with you!!

[Patty]

I wish people in real life were as nice as people here❣️

[Angelina]

Does anyone know when the father browns were first published? It seems like they were published after Chesterton death but wondering when he wrote them as they may be early enough?

[Susanna - Censored by GoodReads]

It varies, Angel. The Man Who Was Thursday is from 1908, the Father Browns start in 1911, The Man Who Knew Too Much is from 1922. (ETA: Chesterton died in 1936.)

[Bill]

Gisela wrote: "Nancy wrote: "It's all good. I think he was just double checking. We do that sometimes, you know.

:)"

Patty wrote: "Thanks, Nancy; Bill’s comment threw me."
Mia culpa, as usual. Patty it's me, I ..."

Gisela - Were you going to nominate another that was before 1900?

[Angelina]

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "It varies, Angel. The Man Who Was Thursday is from 1908, the Father Browns start in 1911, The Man Who Knew Too Much is from 1922. (ETA: Chesterton died in 1936.)"

Thanks I thought I might be able to nominate one and find it in my library but not early enough.

[Bill]

Angel wrote: "Susanna - Censored by GoodReads wrote: "It varies, Angel. The Man Who Was Thursday is from 1908, the Father Browns start in 1911, The Man Who Knew Too Much is from 1922. (ETA: Chesterton died in 19..."

Next time then, when we move to 1900 - 1909.. :) (After Nancy does March, of course.)

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

March. Right. I'll have to put on my thinking cap.

[Bill]

Nancy wrote: "March. Right. I'll have to put on my thinking cap."

:0)... You love a challenge.

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Bill wrote: "Nancy wrote: "March. Right. I'll have to put on my thinking cap."

:0)... You love a challenge."

That I do. Most certainly.

[Gisela]

Bill wrote: "Gisela wrote: "Nancy wrote: "It's all good. I think he was just double checking. We do that sometimes, you know.

:)"

Patty wrote: "Thanks, Nancy; Bill’s comment threw me."
Mia culpa, as usual. Pa..."
No, I think I give this a miss. Thanks

[Bill]

Gisela wrote: "Bill wrote: "Gisela wrote: "Nancy wrote: "It's all good. I think he was just double checking. We do that sometimes, you know.

:)"

Patty wrote: "Thanks, Nancy; Bill’s comment threw me."
Mia culpa,..."

That's too bad. Next time then.. :0)

[Laurence]

The Widow Lerouge, by Emile Gaboriau, 1866. .

[Nancy, Co-Moderator]

Laurence wrote: "The Widow Lerouge, by Emile Gaboriau, 1866. ."

That was fun! (Yes, I read this one too.)

[Bill]

We've got 5 books nominated. I'll wait until this evening to see if we get anymore and then set up the poll... Thanks for participating.

[Angelina]

Thanks everyone I didn’t have anything to nominate for this category, hope I can participate more next time. I’m also doing the popsugar 2019 reading challenge which is a completely new thing for me to attempt so trying to broaden my horizons and read books matching the challenges so definitely hoping some of the monthly reads will help inspire me.

[Pam]

I nominate the woman in white by Wilkie Collins