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message 351: by Kaberoi (new)

Kaberoi Rua (jjliberty) | 1 comments Hello everyone, I'm Jason! I have been following and a member of this group for a couple of weeks now. I have been observing everyone's opinions on different subjects which for the most part seem to be online with mine opinions and beliefs. A little about me, I'm 38 and on my 17th year serving this country. Yeah, yeah if I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have volunteered to be a imperialist protecting a constitution that doesn't apply to the government but I'm trying to finish for the retirement pay. With each new book I crush the Army gets more ignorant and absurd as my intellect increases. These last three years will be the hardest.

However, I became awakened after the financial crisis. I was finishing up my undergrad in business management and knowing finance something didn't appear right about that collapse. Which digging deeper I discovered it was the greatest bank heist in the history of mankind and our government allowed it and bailed the pigs out. Since then I have been ashamed of my lack of knowledge of the world. I spent thirty years of my life doing my own thing and enjoying my hobbies (regrets). Since my awakening I have been obsessed with discovering absolute knowledge in everything. But mostly the system, politics, economics, philosophy, religion, and history to name a few.

In the books I have read, the documentaries watched, and my own internet research I have conducted, using my human reason, rational, and senses I'm 100% positive their is a conspiracy by the international banking cartel or illuminati or whatever you want to call them to take over the world (New world order where they rule as philosopher kings according to plato's republic, a utopia for them but a dystopia for us)

Anyhow, the reason I chose to finally respond to the group after a couple of weeks is that I stumbled on some new information and couldn't find it as a subject in the group threads. If someone wants to create a new thread that would be awesome. Anyhow, I want to hear opinions if you have heard of September 23, 2015 and the Corporation CERN based in Switzerland? Check it out in the link but it's all over youtube if you type in CERN, I'm curious to hear opinions and biblical connections. Is this the coming judgment (revelations that the bible spoke of) Your thoughts and opinions???? Or is this another problem, reaction, solution (Hegelian dialectic to bring about the New World Order??? Order out of Chaos Theory????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Odh...

Glad to be here and surrounded by like minded intellectuals. I'm surrounded in the Army by misinformed people who when I speak of the system they view me as a nut case.

Jason - liberty or death :)


message 352: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Mack wrote: "Hello there, I'm Mack, and I write Christian books. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ. I'm sure not everyone here share my beliefs, but I'm also anti illuminati which means we may some common ground. ..."

Welcome Mack.


message 353: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments JJ wrote: "Hello everyone, I'm Jason! I have been following and a member of this group for a couple of weeks now. I have been observing everyone's opinions on different subjects which for the most part seem t..."

Jason - Welcome aboard.


message 354: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments JJ wrote: "Hello everyone, I'm Jason! I have been following and a member of this group for a couple of weeks now. I have been observing everyone's opinions on different subjects which for the most part seem t..."

Hey Jason, thanks for sharing your experiences in the military.
I enjoyed reading your post and story of how you began to become conscious of truths that exist beyond the official versions of what cause wars etc.

Am aware of CERN, but don't believe anyone has ever posted about it.

Best,
James


message 355: by Katrina (new)

Katrina Morris | 1 comments I discovered Underground Knowledge looking for content in posts about the Kosovo War. I really enjoyed your suggestion, Lance, that the NATO air campaign may have been timed to draw attention away from the Lewinsky scandal. The desire to "fix" Kosovo in time for NATO's 50th anniversary in Apr '99 may have also hastened events. I just published Curtain's Fall, a political thriller intended to raise questions in readers' minds about events precipitating the NATO air assault over Kosovo, namely Racak and Operation Horseshoe. I cannot wait to read The Orphan Trilogy. Thanks for facilitating such an interesting forum! Curtain's Fall


message 356: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Katrina wrote: "I discovered Underground Knowledge looking for content in posts about the Kosovo War. I really enjoyed your suggestion, Lance, that the NATO air campaign may have been timed to draw attention away ..."

That's our pleasure Katrina. Curtain's Fall sounds interesting.


message 357: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca Gransden (anemogram) | 4 comments Thanks for the invite James. Scrolling through your topics it appears that you guys really like to dig deep! Always looking for an alternative viewpoint and an eternal seeker I look forward to discovering what this group is all about. As for me, I'm a child of the 70s, I write sometimes and strive to be part of the solution.


message 358: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Rebecca wrote: "Thanks for the invite James. Scrolling through your topics it appears that you guys really like to dig deep! Always looking for an alternative viewpoint and an eternal seeker I look forward to disc..."

Welcome Rebecca Eternal Seeker and Child of the 70s! I predict you'll enjoy this group.


message 359: by Sonny (new)

Sonny Saggar (saggar) | 1 comments Good evening all. By day I'm an emergency physician and internist, but by night I'm a voracious reader of philosophy, spirituality and quantum physics - that kind of stuff.

I have always fancied myself as an author [perhaps one day], but for the moment, I want to know what you people think, and how you people think, and what books any of you have written or are in the middle of writing. It adds a lot of meaning for me.

Thanks!

Sonny


message 360: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Sonny wrote: "Good evening all. By day I'm an emergency physician and internist, but by night I'm a voracious reader of philosophy, spirituality and quantum physics - that kind of stuff.

I have always fancied ..."


Welcome Sonny. I'm sure this group's Bookshelves will interest you - as will the Medical Industrial Complex discussion thread > https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group... . We welcome your feedback on any and all of the above.


message 361: by Chris (new)

Chris Harrison (chrisharrison_2013) | 6 comments Another new member of the group. I keep an open mind on alternative knowledge, history and the whole conspiracy theory thing. Call me an agnostic.

Looking forward to having my eyes opened now and again by this group. I do enjoy a good tale and if it leads to the truth all the better.


message 362: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Thanks Chris and welcome.


message 363: by Nadia (new)

Nadia (neaton) | 1 comments Hey y'all! My name's Nadia and I'm 19 years old. I feel like I'm the baby of this group as you all seem to be much older and wiser than I am. I'm always looking to be enlightened so I figured by joining this group I can explore the million different views that people hold.


message 364: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Welcome Nadia. Most but not all 'Undergrounders' may be older than you...but not sure we all wiser. (Don't let our seniority fool ya)!


message 365: by DeBranco (new)

DeBranco | 5 comments Hallo there, I am D and I am new to this group, but not new to its contents.


message 366: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno Hi All,

I'm a lawyer and an author of Oligarch series (and co-author on the first book) which I write about Russian/Ukrainian super-rich and recent Russian - Ukrainian showdown in action/thriller/historical fiction genre.
I used to virtually live on the plane between Tel Aviv and Kiev, sharing my time between family in Israel and business in former USSR. Now I live and work by the Med in Israel - a sort of an isle of sanity in a not very kind Middle East environment.
Basing on the above, all the topics concerning enrichment and its moral aspects, conspiracy theories, big bang of the USSR, terrorism, etc prima facie may all be of interest to me.
Would love to read, contribute, share, argue, get to know people.

Best regards,

Nik


message 367: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments DeBranco wrote: "Hallo there, I am D and I am new to this group, but not new to its contents."

Welcome DeBranco!


message 368: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Nik wrote: "Hi All,

I'm a lawyer..."


Hi Nik - Looking forward to seeing your contributions going forward. Your books are well reviewed I note. Well done!


message 369: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments DeBranco wrote: "Hallo there, I am D and I am new to this group, but not new to its contents."

Welcome DeBranco!


message 370: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno Lance Morcan wrote: "Nik wrote: "Hi All,

I'm a lawyer..."

Hi Nik - Looking forward to seeing your contributions going forward. Your books are well reviewed I note. Well done!"


Thanks, Lance. Some interesting threads you have here...


message 371: by John (new)

John Bowman Hi All-

I am a new member to your discussion group and an author of numerous books on various topics. I look forward to discussing issues with the group.

John Bowman


message 372: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments John wrote: "Hi All-

I am a new member to your discussion group and an author of numerous books on various topics. I look forward to discussing issues with the group.

John Bowman"


Welcome John. Given the topics your books cover I imagine you'll have much to add in some of our discussion threads.


message 373: by Sammy (new)

Sammy Dalati | 1 comments Hi, I just graduated from NYU and am looking for some intellectual community online. Hard to summarize what my interests are/what I'm after, but I just wrote a dialogue in the vein of Oscar Wilde's "Decay of Lying," which exhorts adults to get out there and get competent with history and the history of thought so they can face today's world (or any day's world).


message 374: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Welcome Sammy...and congrats on your graduation.


message 375: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Terra wrote: "Hi Lance & Everybody,
I am Terra from Pune, India. I am inclined towards philosophy and Alternative perspectives. Also I am a new author of a book .
Good to be here. Thank you all."


Good luck with that new book Terra...Your views and alternative perspectives are welcome here.


message 376: by Eliška (new)

Eliška Vařejková | 1 comments Hi everyone,
My name is Eliska but English-speaking people call me Lish. I have been very skeptical about most of conspiracy theories but as a student of International Relations I believe there is such a thing as hidden actions of powerful people.

I am very excited to read, share and discuss such theories with this group because people around me seem to be taking all media information as granted (and that sucks).


message 377: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Eliška wrote: "Hi everyone,
My name is Eliska but English-speaking people call me Lish. I have been very skeptical about most of conspiracy theories but as a student of International Relations I believe there is..."


Hi Eliska. Sounds like you're onto it. Welcome aboard.


message 378: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno Hi Eliska & welcome,

I won't call you Lish, as I'm sort of English-writing but rarely English-speaking -:)


message 379: by Letizia (new)

Letizia (camilaletizia) | 3 comments Hi!
New to the group. I am reading again The hunger games trilogy, and as I read it once more I am noticing a lot of new things. These things sound familiar and others similar to a dystopian subject. Joined this group to read mostly what you have to share, and maybe once I think for a while then I will reply.
Thank you, keep posting interesting topics :)


message 380: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Welcome Letizia - we look forward to your comments if and when you decide to share your thoughts with us.


message 381: by Aparna (new)

Aparna (aparna_s) | 1 comments Hello ,

I am Aparna from India. I am a hardcore book nerd and a huge Vampires fan. I believe in today's world media is manipulating the way news reach the people and I look at ways I can contribute to make the right news reach people.

So I would like to read all such issues here which have been neglected or suppressed and contribute wherever I can.


message 382: by Jayanth (last edited Nov 18, 2015 08:59AM) (new)

Jayanth Kumar | 2 comments Hello,
I am Jayanth from India.I would like support Aparna's
thought.In the recent events of Paris tragedy.I have came to know that only the News Journalists show us what they want us to see.
So I would like to see or have a feel what really happens in the world


message 383: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Hi Jayanth and Aparna, our friends from India! Your misgivings over the news media are well founded. As a former journalist with experience in all media I can vouch for that. (You may find our Media discussion thread of interest). Regardless...it's great to have you both in the group.


message 384: by Denis (new)

Denis Toovey | 1 comments Hello,
I am a retired pharmacist who decided to write my first book, Better Health for You to empower people to take more responsibility for their health by understanding some issues including nutrition, the health system and how it could be improved, health professionals and their treatment from someone who has worked in health in a number of roles for forty years. To me it is all about a wholistic (big picture) approach focusing on cures and prevention of disease over just treating symptoms of disease with medicine.


message 385: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Denis wrote: "Hello,
I am a retired pharmacist who decided to write my first book, Better Health for You to empower people to take more responsibility for their health by understanding some issues including nut..."


Great to hear from you Denis. I suspect your book will interest many in this group... Better Health for You: An Insider's Big Picture Guide


message 386: by Dave (new)

Dave Agans (daveagans) | 10 comments Hi all,
I've been around the group for a few months, wondering if my conspiracy thriller spoof The Urban Legion (think Men in Black with tin-foil hats) would be enjoyed by fellow Undergrounders. It reveals the sinister forces behind everything from traffic jams to restroom flush sensors to sharp plastic packaging, not to mention urban legends. I think you'd actually get all the jokes (unlike many), but I'm afraid you won't like the satire, even though it's aimed at the conspiracies, not the theorists.
Anyway, there's a good opportunity to find out--The Urban Legion is free on Kindle at Amazon today and the next 4 days, Fri-Tue 4-8 December. I'd love to hear what people think of it, and whether I should start a related discussion on funny conspiracy theories. James, you've got this marked to read--here's your chance to grab a copy. :-)
The Urban Legion by Dave Agans


message 387: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Dave wrote: "Hi all,
I've been around the group for a few months, wondering if my conspiracy thriller spoof The Urban Legion (think Men in Black with tin-foil hats) would be enjoyed by fellow Undergrounders. It..."


Thanks Dave and good luck with that freebie. I suspect your book would be enjoyed by all Undergrounders other than those who belong to the aforementioned Tinfoil Hat Brigade (bless them all).


message 388: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Go start that funny thread on conspiracies Dave!
Use your book as starting point.

I think conspiracies are a very funny subject - there are some really crazy ones out there


message 389: by Sagar (new)

Sagar Acharya (acharyasagar) Hello fellas

My name is Sagar Acharya and I'm a big chess lover, i love understanding how our mind works like why do we form habits, why do we love people from opposite sex, why have people created such organizations which do different works?

I study in 2nd year at IITD and am a big Formula 1 fan!

Have a huge thirst for knowledge and understanding myself!


message 390: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Sagar wrote: "Hello fellas

My name is Sagar Acharya and I'm a big chess lover, i love understanding how our mind works like why do we form habits, why do we love people from opposite sex, why have people create..."


Welcome Sagar!


message 391: by Tony (new)

Tony (paigetheoracle) My name is Tony and I write in a variety of areas (not very successfully, which is why am here - people prefer candy coated ideas and that is not me). I'm into UFOs, aliens and the mind as a vehicle of awareness

If you visit my UFO artwork site, http://flyingsaucery.weebly.com
you'll find images at the bottom of the t-shirt and coloured pencil artwork section, that explains my take on reality (last 8).

I also am composing a series of books teaching language http://logiclistsenglish.simplesite.com
that deconstructs it into a very simple form, almost like music or poetry (my philosophical observations try to do that as well - simplify reality)
http://deepthought2.weebly.com

I also write more humorous stuff and created t-shirt designs and posters that I tried to market on Cafe Press but the English sense of fun didn't come off
http://shallowhumour.weebly.com

Well that's enough about me - how about you?


message 392: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Tony wrote: "My name is Tony and I write in a variety of areas (not very successfully, which is why am here - people prefer candy coated ideas and that is not me). I'm into UFOs, aliens and the mind as a vehicl..."

Always good to welcome a fellow writer Tony. I can see by your sites you think outside the square...so this group should suit you! Welcome.


message 393: by Tony (new)

Tony (paigetheoracle) I certainly do and any postings I make will reflect this most of the time. I'll probably start off posting on other people's threads but who knows?


message 394: by Dov (new)

Dov Ivry | 45 comments I am a retired journalist. I've now got 42 books up of which five are fiction. All my books are controversial except for one about aliens playing for the Stanley Cup. That I did for fun. If there is place where a misfit can fit in, this seems to be it. Dov Ivry


message 395: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Dov wrote: "I am a retired journalist. I've now got 42 books up of which five are fiction. All my books are controversial except for one about aliens playing for the Stanley Cup. That I did for fun. If there i..."

Dov - From one misfit and former journo to another...welcome! You should indeed fit in here. 42 books...wow you would have to be this group's most prolific author.


message 396: by Christina (new)

Christina Lavers | 16 comments Hello everyone,
My name is Christina. I had a massive experience back in the early '90s that showed me that reality went much deeper and was so much vaster than we were taught perceive. I felt like I had been given a back stage pass to reality...what I saw was at once the most awesomely beautiful exciting, and terrifying grand story that we are a part of.
I learnt quickly that most people around me absolutely did not want to have their view of reality challenged. It was easier to call me crazy. Afterwards I learnt to tuck my experience away into the cracks and carry on 'pretending' I didn't know what I did. Though quietly I searched... looking for strands to follow that helped me to understand what I experienced.
Then years later when the internet came out I discovered others whose life journeys had also led them down the rabbit hole .... beyond the mainstream 'version' of reality. So much of what I had experienced was confirmed to be much more than delusion or fantasy'.
I recently wrote a memoir called Jump Into the Blue that describes that initial period of awakening. I also work as a contributing writer for a website called 'Wake Up World'.
I look forward to sharing with everyone here.
Thanks for having me :)


message 397: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Christina wrote: "Hello everyone,
My name is Christina. I had a massive experience back in the early '90s that showed me that reality went much deeper and was so much vaster than we were taught perceive. I felt lik..."


Welcome Christina and please do feel free to share your experiences.


message 398: by mJ (new)

mJ | 20 comments Welcome Christina...tell us whether reality can be altered based on what you saw


message 399: by mJ (new)

mJ | 20 comments Welcome Christina...tell us whether reality can be altered based on what you saw


message 400: by finecat (new)

finecat | 14 comments Christina, I just bought your book. It seems very interesting indeed.


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