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message 101: by Little (new)

Little Miss Esoteric  (littlemissesoteric) I needed the laugh. Ta.


message 102: by SD-2097 (new)

SD-2097 (mssd-2097) | 11 comments We should let "Sir" present his side as well. I mean, do you guys want to face THE Wrath Of Illuminati?


message 103: by James, Group Founder (last edited Dec 27, 2014 03:38AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments SD-2097 wrote: "We should let "Sir" present his side as well. I mean, do you guys want to face THE Wrath Of Illuminati? "

C'mon guys, I really think we should show "Sir" some respect! I mean, he holds the esteemed position of "Illuminati Agent" and works directly for none other than THE "Illuminati high priest".
Now he hasn't replied to your questions just yet, but that could be because he's juggling his various Illuminati duties such as dancing naked in Bohemian Grove ceremonies, inserting ancient symbolism into the music videos of Illuminati pop stars or infiltrating other social activist groups like this one.

So let's show the guy a little respect please! :)


message 104: by Little (new)

Little Miss Esoteric  (littlemissesoteric) Bring it on Sir Smith. Ready for naked dancing, although can't quite get to the Bohemian Grove at the moment, may have to settle for the local football oval, if that's all right by you...


message 105: by Jim (new)

Jim Edward wrote: "Perfect........... but, I did meet a cabbie who showed me how if you just stuck the pins in the proper place, that AmWay would supply a golden lifetime, as soon as the Illuminati high priests approve..."

There's always a catch, dammit!


message 106: by Harry (new)

Harry Whitewolf | 1745 comments Sir wrote: "Hello I am Sir Victor smith I am one of the agents sent by the
high priest to bring as many of those who are interested in
becoming a member of the Illuminati to the great
Illuminati temple,am a bu..."


Serve Victor's Myth, Sir Victor Smith?


message 107: by Harry (new)

Harry Whitewolf | 1745 comments Ta. I was quite pleased with that one myself. :)


message 108: by Gary (new)

Gary Tenuta (code9) | 6 comments Hi All. Can't believe I hadn't heard about this group before. I used to write feature articles and book reviews for the venerable old FATE Magazine. I was totally caught off guard when my FATE article about the history of the Majestic-12 documents resulted in requests for interviews from radio hosts across the U.S. and Canada. That was quite an experience for a guy who'd never done a radio interview in his life.

Then I decided to try writing a novel into which I could incorporate nearly every conspiracy theory and unexplained phenomenon I'd come across during my years of interest in such subjects. The result (9 years in the making) was The Ezekiel Code (self-published, 2007). As novel-writing goes, I admit it has many of the earmarks of a first-timer. And believe me, a lot of readers let me know about it in their reviews! LOL!

Interestingly, in spite of the flaws, it became an amazon.com "best seller" in three categories and remained so for over 57 weeks. I think that was mostly due to the fact that the story revolved around the approaching date of 12/21/2012, the fabled and controversial end of the ancient Mayan calendar.

But also woven into the story was a plethora of topics of interest to many of us: UFOs, ancient mysteries, the Great Pyramid, remote viewing, the mystery of Rennes le Chateau, the "Eltanin" antenna, Ezekiel's "wheels", and more. So I'm sure that helped to attract many readers.

The book was also a bit of an experiment in that it's the only novel ever written in which English gematria serves as the plot device to drive the story forward. To my amazement, the book is still selling in spite of the fact that the whole "2012 thing" has long since come and gone.

Over the years I've become increasingly skeptical of many so-called "alternative" views and subjects because so much of it has been made up and perpetrated by sharlatans and con-artists looking to make a dishonest buck or simply to satisfy a narcissistic ego. Nevertheless, since I've experienced my share of unusual phenomena, I keep abreast of what's going on in the "alternative" community because... well, because you just never know. ;-)

My blog for anyone who might be interested: http://www.garyvaltenuta.blogspot.com

Wishing everyone a fabulous 2015!


message 109: by Harry (new)

Harry Whitewolf | 1745 comments Happy New Year y'all. Let's change the world in 2015!


message 110: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Gary wrote: "Hi All. Can't believe I hadn't heard about this group before. I used to write feature articles and book reviews for the venerable old FATE Magazine. I was totally caught off guard when my FATE arti..."

Welcome Gary! Feel free to spread the word and invite yr friends to join our rapidly growing group. AND feel free to add The Ezekiel Code to our bookshelves if you haven't already. Sounds like a must-read!


message 111: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Harry wrote: "Happy New Year y'all. Let's change the world in 2015!"

HAPPY NEW YEAR right back at ya Harry! And to all our members, too. And yes...let's do change the world...


message 112: by Gary (new)

Gary Tenuta (code9) | 6 comments Lance - Thanks very much for the warm welcome. Been slammed with work (I'm a book cover designer) so haven't yet had time to get involved in any of the topic discussions. But looking forward to it. Thanks again. :-)


message 113: by Paul (new)

Paul Williams (pawilliams) | 2 comments Happy New Year all. I'm Paul Anthony Williams and reside in Rugeley Staffordshire UK. I am the author of the Dark Clown Series of fantasy books of which #1 The Snake Of Snowspire and #2 The Fires Of Al Yon are available now on kindle and amazon.com and via lulu.com. I am currently writing the third book of the series The Tides Of Time hopefully to be released by July 2015. If i was to describe my series it would be a mixture of Tolkien and a dark Narnia with a sprinkling of dark hunour. I would be grateful for any reviews and feedback

Many thanks

P.A.WILLIAMS


message 114: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Paul wrote: "Happy New Year all. I'm Paul Anthony Williams and reside in Rugeley Staffordshire UK. I am the author of the Dark Clown Series of fantasy books of which #1 The Snake Of Snowspire and #2 The Fires O..."

Welcome Paul.


message 115: by Jessica (new)

Jessica | 8 comments Hi everyone, my name is Jessica. I'm a college student who loves the world of conspiracies and underground knowledge. My favorite conspiracies include:

1. The murder of the Romanov family and if Anastasia survived.
2. Anything on the Illuminati or Freemasons
3. Secrets of the Knights Templar
4. If Jesus married to Mary Magdalene.

Yep, I believe all of those are my favorites unless I forgot about some. I'm excited to be a part of this group because I find it very difficult to be in a position where you can discuss certain topics openly.


message 116: by Mira (new)

Mira (wildfree06) | 8 comments Jessica wrote: "Hi everyone, my name is Jessica. I'm a college student who loves the world of conspiracies and underground knowledge. My favorite conspiracies include:

1. The murder of the Romanov family and if A..."


I also love topics about the Illuminati or Freemasons, Secrets of the Knights Templar and about Bermuda triangle and ancient mysteries


message 117: by Lynn (new)

Lynn | 28 comments Hello, I am also happy to be a member of this group. I was an engineer for automotive and aerospace companies for 25 years. I recently decided to take a huge step away from technology.
I'd like to know if humans are in contact with aliens, if the 4th reich or reptilians exist, if the Rockefeller's are truly evil, if there are hundreds of underground military bases and why; and, if we are creating epidemics. I am very perturbed about each person who died in Africa from Ebola - so very sad. I would like us to be connected in times of good and bad. For example, after MH370 'disappeared', we should all have refused to fly....result would be that 'we' control our destiny instead of being manipulated over and over again.
In my spare time, I love reading, sewing and crocheting, and television series. I embrace Etsy.com as a people to people connection, as well as goodreads (thanks to Irene!). Happy New Year.


message 118: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Jessica wrote: "Hi everyone, my name is Jessica. I'm a college student who loves the world of conspiracies and underground knowledge. My favorite conspiracies include:

1. The murder of the Romanov family and if A..."


Welcome Jessica...Your enthusiasm will be appreciated here!


message 119: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Max wrote: "Jessica wrote: "Hi everyone, my name is Jessica. I'm a college student who loves the world of conspiracies and underground knowledge. My favorite conspiracies include:

1. The murder of the Romanov..."


Then you should be well served in this group Max.


message 120: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Krishna wrote: "hello all i am krishna and a student of class 10. like u all i am also very much interested in mysteries of the world specially those about aliens. I strongly believe that what apparently seems is ..."

Hi Krishna...sounds like you are onto it!


message 121: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Naim wrote: "Hello im Adam,

I am interested in math. I love gardening, and am interested in agriculture. I love drumming and dancing. I practice Ashtanga yoga. I am a communist. I am environmentalist with a bi..."


Hey Adam - Welcome. Not sure communism and "equal contribution by all peoples" works in today's dog-eat-dog world. It's my observation we humans don't equally contribute and we naturally wanna be fairly rewarded for our individual effort and input...hence the worldwide breakdown of communism. Regardless, I look forward to hearing more of your philosophies going forward.


message 122: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Lynn wrote: "Hello, I am also happy to be a member of this group. I was an engineer for automotive and aerospace companies for 25 years. I recently decided to take a huge step away from technology.
I'd like t..."


And a Happy New Years to you Lynn. Given your aerospace industry background, you may be interested in our discussion thread on antigravity propulsion and the mystery over whether UFOs/discs/saucers are the result of human or alien technologies. Methinks human with a little outside help mmmaybe...


message 123: by Lynn (new)

Lynn | 28 comments Lance,
I will read those discussions and get more involved. Thank you!


message 124: by Irene (new)

Irene (reniemarie) | 104 comments Lynn wrote: "Hello, I am also happy to be a member of this group. I was an engineer for automotive and aerospace companies for 25 years. I recently decided to take a huge step away from technology.
I'd like t..."


Awesome Lynn :-) I hope you like both this group & the African reads book club too. I really want to become more involved in both this year! Sooo many interesting topics to discuss.


message 125: by Yehu (new)

Yehu Aber | 1 comments Greetings everyone my name is Yehu and I'd like to thank you all for accepting me into this group. I hope to expand my knowledge by discovering topics and ideals in books and discussions.


message 126: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Welcome Yehu.


message 127: by Irene (new)

Irene (reniemarie) | 104 comments James wrote: "Sir wrote: "Hello I am Sir Victor smith I am one of the agents sent by the
high priest to bring as many of those who are interested in
becoming a member of the Illuminati to the great
Illuminati te..."


LOL!!!


message 128: by Irene (new)

Irene (reniemarie) | 104 comments Jim wrote: "Sir wrote: "Hello I am Sir Victor smith I am one of the agents sent by the
high priest to bring as many of those who are interested in
becoming a member of the Illuminati to the great
Illuminati te..."


Someone actually tried that on me once like 15 years ago. I went with a friend to something her friend asked her to attend and she didn't want to go alone. We were like 18 years old and I swear I could see the pyramid on the board. People were signing up too! Not me. I was in total shock. All these people were older than my friend and I ... how did they not know it was a pyramid scheme especially when there was a huge pyramid on the wall!? We walked out but later I wished I had been courageous and yelled out "no stop don't give your money to these people.. they are tricking you!!!" If I felt guilty having run out of that place when I saw what was happening and I was just a kid well it makes me wonder. How do those people sleep at night? How do people like that look in the mirror every day? What about the people who do even worse to others? Imagine not having a conscience...and how does a thing like that happen?


message 129: by Irene (new)

Irene (reniemarie) | 104 comments Gary wrote: "Hi All. Can't believe I hadn't heard about this group before. I used to write feature articles and book reviews for the venerable old FATE Magazine. I was totally caught off guard when my FATE arti..."

Checking out your blog! Thanks.


message 130: by Mira (new)

Mira (wildfree06) | 8 comments Wow! Seems like were really destined to be here. Meeting you guys in here is an honor. As we're both shared same interest.

P.S.
Thanks Lance :)


message 131: by Erika (last edited Jan 08, 2015 03:49AM) (new)

Erika Eroy | 2 comments hello,i'm erika..i'm a filipino,thanks for inviting me in this group,it's my first time getting to notice by an author like sir james and sir lance....i'm looking forward to get some information in this group named underground knowledge..


message 132: by Donna (new)

Donna Hello, Donna here.
Thank you James for the invite. I tend to read books of all genres amd have not read the Orphan Conspiracies as of yet.
So I'll take a look around and make myself at home while I become familiar with the discussions going on here :)


message 133: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Erika wrote: "hello,i'm erika..i'm a filipino,thanks for inviting me in this group,it's my first time getting to notice by an author like sir james and sir lance....i'm looking forward to get some information in..."

Hi Erika - Hope you get all the info you need.


message 134: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Donna wrote: "Hello, Donna here.
Thank you James for the invite. I tend to read books of all genres amd have not read the Orphan Conspiracies as of yet.
So I'll take a look around and make myself at home while I..."


Welcome Donna.


message 135: by Donna (new)

Donna Thanks Lance!


message 136: by [deleted user] (new)

Hello. My name is Michelle Savage. I'm a new member of Good Reads and trying to figure out how all this works... setting up my profile and such. I'm into health, wellness, and the truth about things that not many wish to post publicly... government, mysteries, etc.


message 137: by Erika (new)

Erika Eroy | 2 comments Lance wrote: "Erika wrote: "hello,i'm erika..i'm a filipino,thanks for inviting me in this group,it's my first time getting to notice by an author like sir james and sir lance....i'm looking forward to get some ..."
thanks james,and i hpoe that this group can provide all of those :)


message 138: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Michelle wrote: "Hello. My name is Michelle Savage. I'm a new member of Good Reads and trying to figure out how all this works... setting up my profile and such. I'm into health, wellness, and the truth about thin..."

Hi Michelle and welcome.


message 139: by Shan (new)

Shan Gogh; (soulfulreverie) | 1 comments Hello, I'm new. I am looking forward to a lot of conversations and book suggestions. Thank you. :) Btw, I'm Shan.


message 140: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Marielle Shan wrote: "Hello, I'm new. I am looking forward to a lot of conversations and book suggestions. Thank you. :) Btw, I'm Shan."

Hey Shan - Welcome aboard!


message 141: by Luke (last edited Jan 11, 2015 01:56AM) (new)

Luke Marsden (lukefdmarsden) Hi everyone, I'm Luke.

I'm glad I found this group, it looks like a place for some good, informed discussion and debate *cracks knuckles* :D

In terms of underground knowledge, I'm currently interested in issues dominance (the attempt to control all sides of a debate and therefore its eventual outcome), particularly in the context of fossil fuel companies and geo-engineering (watch how the public discussion on climate change is evolving).

I've also witnessed, at first hand, pharmaceutical companies and regulatory bodies apparently colluding to ensure that clinical trials for new drugs remain opaque, allowing them (and their associated risks/side effects) to be approved far more easily than should be the case. Nothing new to anyone I'm sure, but shocking all the same.

Most likely I'll post on these things in future. For the time being I'm enjoying reading through all the enlightening past and current threads.


message 142: by Faith (new)

Faith (faymorrow) | 309 comments Hello, I'm new. Thanks for the invite James.
I'm fairly new to these kind of topics but am very interested to learn more of them and to see the other's opinions and develop my own soon enough.
I hope to soon read the Orphan Trilogy Series and GENIUS INTELLIGENCE: Secret Techniques and Technologies to Increase IQ. They both look like wonderful reads.
I go by Fay or Faith, whichever you prefer. ;)


message 143: by Robert (new)

Robert (robertfdorr) | 2 comments I'm Bob Dorr (Robert F. Dorr), author of a new alternate history titled "Hitler's Time Machine."

I've been writing books, magazine articles and newspaper columns for 60 years.

I'm interested in real history (which most of my books are) and in alternate history (which "Hitler's Time Machine" is). I like to discuss alternate history concepts: "What could have happened if...?"


message 144: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Luke wrote: "Hi everyone, I'm Luke.

I'm glad I found this group, it looks like a place for some good, informed discussion and debate *cracks knuckles* :D

In terms of underground knowledge, I'm currently inter..."


Welcome Luke. We look forward to your input.


message 145: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Fay wrote: "Hello, I'm new. Thanks for the invite James.
I'm fairly new to these kind of topics but am very interested to learn more of them and to see the other's opinions and develop my own soon enough.
I ho..."


Welcome Fay.


message 146: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Robert wrote: "I'm Bob Dorr (Robert F. Dorr), author of a new alternate history titled "Hitler's Time Machine."

I've been writing books, magazine articles and newspaper columns for 60 years.

I'm interested in r..."


Hi Bob - Yr interest in real history etc. should be satisfied here.


message 147: by Íris (last edited Jan 13, 2015 02:03AM) (new)

Íris (irissantos) Hello everyone,
I'm here thanks to James invitation.
The first time I had an experience with how the real world really is was when I confronted with the livestock industry and how inhumanely animals are treated for human consumption. Soon I was aware that I could keep on living without feeding on someone else's suffering and exploitation. I simply couldn't swallow it and follow the crowd just to shut my eyes to the truth.
Some months later my cousin introduced me to Zeitgeist and I was so shocked and appalled that I couldn't believe it at first.

Of course that the shock subsided but I started envisioning the world through a whole new lens. I watched the whole Zeitgeist trilogy, I watched Earthlings, Thrive, Forks Over Knives, Cowspiracy, Super Size Me, Food Matters and probably a few others I can't remember that shifted how I perceived our world.

Woah, long story short: Hello everyone, nice to meet you!


message 148: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Hello Iris and welcome.


message 149: by Lara (new)

Lara Hi Iris. I'm always glad when I hear that other people are also concerned about treating animals humanely.


message 150: by Mario (new)

Mario Pinheiro | 3 comments Hi, Iris. Good to see your awareness of the "history of mankind"...


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