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message 1: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments I've come across this... can anyone explain it to me words I can understand, please?

http://humblenations.com/2014/08/05/n...


message 2: by S. (new)

S. Aksah | 152 comments interesting!


message 3: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Will - If the article is right, Amazon are increasing the recommended size (in pixels) of a book cover. This means that the book covers will look a little better in quality, but the image files will also be bigger.

Bigger image files means that Amazon charges more for electronic delivery. Authors receive less as profits.

In order to maximise our profits, we should be keeping delivery costs down, which means that authors should want small image files.

The article argues that Amazon doesn't need these higher resolution covers because the difference in quality will only be seen on ridiculously large screens.

In other words, Amazon has found a way to push more profit its way by reducing the amount that the author gets.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Electronic delivery charges?

Huh?


message 5: by Michael (new)

Michael Cargill (michaelcargill) | 2992 comments The delivery charges only really come into play if your book has images and it's taken from the author's royalty rate.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments How can there be electronic delivery charges?

I dun geddit.


message 7: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "How can there be electronic delivery charges?

I dun geddit."


No, and neither does the author, but Amazon does


message 8: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "How can there be electronic delivery charges?

I dun geddit."


All that whisper sync stuff and connecting by "free" 3g and wifi... You didn't think that Amazon paid for it, did you? It comes out of what they pay us (to the extent that if you have a large picture book with lots of pictures, you could wind up getting nothing)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I had no idea!

Wow!


message 10: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Looking at that article... I can't see any justification for recommending that cover images be that massive.


message 11: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Luddite
You'll be saying next that you'd prefer to walk into a bricks and mortar shop and flirt with the lass behind the counter?
How can the almighty Amazon make money out of the proles if technology ceases to advance?
How can we continue to "live in the best of all possible worlds" if petty minded folk jib at paying their dues to the support of civilisation and fund civilising forces. Pour your every last penny into the coffers of Amazon, you know it makes sense!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Someone please put some sugar in Jim's tea.


message 13: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Not tea, I'd start to rant!


;-)


message 14: by Pete (new)

Pete Carter (petecarter) | 522 comments I think any file over 1Mb download and Amazon charges download fees. One of my book is 1.25Mb and 10p comes off my royalties every time it's downloaded. I won't tell you what it has cost me so far, but it's nearly £1.


message 15: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 1774 comments You and I clearly share the same end of the top table in the Amazon earnings club, Pete.


message 16: by Pete (new)

Pete Carter (petecarter) | 522 comments Andrew wrote: "You and I clearly share the same end of the top table in the Amazon earnings club, Pete."

I sit on the floor under the table - waiting for scraps.


message 17: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments It's getting crowded down here under the table isn't it Pete, and there aren't a lot of scraps to go round


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments No bacon bits?


message 19: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "No bacon bits?"

chance would be a fine thing


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Maybe Will has some tofu for you.


message 21: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Pete wrote: "I think any file over 1Mb download and Amazon charges download fees. One of my book is 1.25Mb and 10p comes off my royalties every time it's downloaded. I won't tell you what it has cost me so far,..."

It's also linked to your royalty rate - apparently if you choose 35% instead of 70%, you don't get charged. So why would anyone do that? I hear you asking. Half the money to save a few pennies? Daft, surely! Don't forget though, picture books can easily eat up all your royalties in download fees, so switching to 35% means you can still make something.

Of course those of us under the table (no sales again today) are still wondering what these royalties are...


message 22: by R.M.F. (new)

R.M.F. Brown | 2124 comments When I first saw the title of this thread, I feared the worst, knowing as I do, the obsession with sex this site has :) I'm glad to have been proved wrong.


message 23: by S. (new)

S. Aksah | 152 comments hahahaha..


message 24: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 1774 comments I'm glad my stuff is text only with modest covers - I don't imagine I'll ever incur these charges, which seem a bit odd.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments R.M.F wrote: "When I first saw the title of this thread, I feared the worst, knowing as I do, the obsession with sex this site has :) I'm glad to have been proved wrong."

Pffft. You were as disappointed as the rest of us.


message 26: by Jan (new)

Jan Hurst-Nicholson (janhurst-nicholson) | 347 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "How can there be electronic delivery charges?

I dun geddit."


They charge us an extra $2 on all e-books for the Whispernet charge


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I saw you mentioned that in another post as well, Jan.

I'm gobsmacked.


message 28: by Jan (new)

Jan Hurst-Nicholson (janhurst-nicholson) | 347 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "I saw you mentioned that in another post as well, Jan.

I'm gobsmacked."


I feel bad expecting my friends to buy my $2.99 books when they are charged $5.65 and the exchange rate is $1 = R10.50


message 29: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "I saw you mentioned that in another post as well, Jan.

I'm gobsmacked."


Amazon screws suppliers and I've mates with 'Amazon stores' who are not impressed with Amazon.
Frankly I'm just surprised that those who have a free promotion don't get a bill at the end of it, charging for delivery of the 'free downloads'


message 30: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Shush, Jim, don't give them ideas. My perma free has over 4,000 downloads.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Sheesh, think what Rosen would have to fork over!


message 32: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "Sheesh, think what Rosen would have to fork over!"

Young Lady, in English the only thing that gets 'forked over' is a garden.
Colloquially it is acceptable to say that one 'forks out' a sum of money.
(I think I'm make an excellent teacher of English as a second language) :-)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments You cutlery pedant, you.


Rosemary (grooving with the Picts) (nosemanny) | 8590 comments That actually is a superlative insult. I shall endeavour to use it. (although I suspect a certain class of person may view it as a compliment)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments He's gonna come back and say forks aren't cutlery.


message 36: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "He's gonna come back and say forks aren't cutlery."

No being English, cutlery includes knives, forks and spoons.
It is only in the darker corners of the American continent that Cutlery is assumed to be a term solely for cutting instruments and knives.




;-)


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Yes, and they call eating implements silverware, even if they are made of plastic!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Yep.

Get the plastic silverware, we're going on a picnic.


message 39: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Sounds as classy as my Mother's 'Whitby Jet' :-)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Jim, it's too late at night to be making me google.

What's one of them there things?


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments My brother went to Whitby and brought me back a jet necklace. It was nice. Not exactly tiffany though...


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments What is it? Clinker?


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Some black shiny stuff. No idea what it actually is.


message 44: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21812 comments Whitby Jet is occasionally fashionable and can be rather nice.

About forty years ago my mother purchased an outfit, a classic, it did her for best (and she could still wear till the day she died and my sister may have it now. Quality stuff.)
But not long after that my parents went to a party somewhere where even the Christmas crackers were posh.
In her cracker she got some rather upmarket poppit beads. They were black and quite large and the joins between them were masked to look like gilt etc.
For a joke she put them on and later that night someone asked where she got her Whitby Jet from.
So the beads stayed with the outfit and were occasionally worn as Mum's Whitby Jet. The number of people who were fooled was quite impressive :-)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments What was this thread meant to be about?


message 46: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Does size matter? Size/value? pretty much on track.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments I inherited all my grandmother's jewellry when she died. Pity it was mostly nasty plastic beads... She was posh and all!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments What are poppit beads?


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qvM-xE0NlHY...

you pop the sticky out bit into the hole. Theres no way to say that which doesn't sound rude.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Oh! Got those at school. Didn't know that's what they're called.


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