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Jun 19, 2018 11:38AM

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I honestly like different pov but can only fallow three at a time. After that I start to get confuse and mix up story lines.

Although a number of my favourite fantasies are a single POV and a great character can carry it all

I quite liked Bleak House's approach, with the first person POV of Ester (not sure if that's the correct spelling as I listened to it via audiobook) and the other POV being an omniscient, unknown third person.



However, I have seen books where it's the same story but told through the eyes of several members of the group, so you're looking at a nearly unbroken series of events but with different perspectives.
The really well done ones leave me a little annoyed that we're switching away from POVs when it's getting to a cliffhanger, but then a few pages later I now heavily invested in the new POV before they do it again (those bastards!)


Currently reading Illuminae and it’s got multiple POV (reports, journals, communication logs and all sorts of things from a lot of different people) and I’m coping quite well with it. With less skilled authors probably not so much.


As in everything, it really depends on how the author handles them. I love the Malazan books of the Fallen (literally too many POV to count). But I think most writer's sweet spots for POV is like 3-5.
Joe Abercrombie is a great example of this.
Joe Abercrombie is a great example of this.

I love any amount of POVs. Lots of POVs gives a broader, more worldly feeling to books. As in, the story is about the world itself, rather than our hero Ralph or whoever. As Malazan and Abercrombie are my favourite series, the multitudes and one-offs of Malazan I adore, and aspire to replicate. The controlled 3-7 of Abercrombie are great too, because he is less interested in WORLD than he is in CHARACTER, and this gives us a deeper look at his key folk.
I also like POVs that are set up and then suddenly die. Keep the reader guessing. Never assume plot armour.



The Red Knight & Black Cross both have an extraordinary 20+
The first eight chapters of Herald of the Storm introduce 8 new PoVs.
In Black Cross and Herald of the Storm it was too much for me. Not read The Red Knight.
I like a tighter focus. That said, I also like GRRM's epics...
The first eight chapters of Herald of the Storm introduce 8 new PoVs.
In Black Cross and Herald of the Storm it was too much for me. Not read The Red Knight.
I like a tighter focus. That said, I also like GRRM's epics...

But then recently I've noticed that the books I really get into and have the greatest chance of becoming favourites are 1st person, single POV.
So I'm not sure anymore. I struggled with The Red Knight because I didn't have time to start caring about all the characters. Whereas in the Wheel of Time it's only a few POVs to start with. I think once I care about the world I'm happy to take as many POVs as necessary, but it can't start like that.

I’m having exactly that issue with the Red Knight, Miles Cameron, series, in the last book, where the gap in time of reading the previous volume means it’s so hard to pick up the threads again.
So, in general, for me I prefer a very limited number of POVs, especially as I find that I like really well developed and complex characters. Clearly that’s hard to do well with more than a handful of POVs.
GRRM managed to do a lot of POVs in GoT with his chapter headings highlighting exactly whose story was being told and that worked well. But even he got a bit carried away with new characters later on in the series.

I prefer one, but I think I top out at 2-3. Now, a really good author can change that for me. It depends a lot on how the author handles it because I immediately thought of a book I read earlier this year, A Plague of Giants from their Seven Kennings series. So many POVs but I loved it.


My biggest concern is when a character is only briefly introduced because the author absolutely cannot resist the temptation to show EVERYTHING that happens. Sometimes less is more, and the story is more telling when there is no first-hand viewpoint – every reported story often is coloured by the character doing the reporting, which opens a novel up to more nuance.


Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive contains at least 5 main characters and tons more of secondary (still important) ones, and it's absolutely amazing. George Martin on the other hand, boring as hell with his 2500 non-interesting POVs.


I don't know how and at this point I'm pretty sure he doesn't either, nor does he know how to give them continuity hahaha
I'm suspicious on this particular discussion for I despise Martin's disrespect toward his fans (I'm not among them, I don't care about ASoIF), so everything I say will come bitter.
But yeah, I'm not against multiple POVs, I just ask for the majority of them to aggregate to the plot and not make me wanna die of boredom.








Yes, I feel the same! If a story starts with lets say 3 POVs, I don't mind additional POVs in sequels. But I don't like going from one POV to multiple POV in a series. It happened with Tower Lord, and even if the POVs in this book weren't bad, I don't liked the change. Might be one of the reasons I didn't like book 2 as much as the first one...

I love any amount of POVs. Lots of POVs gives a broader, more worldly feeling to books. As in, the story is about the world itself, rather than our hero Ra..."
I really like Abercrombie's style and the way he wrote multiple POVs. The thing he does with ending one POV with a sentence/statement and beginnig the next POV with the same? It's awesome! :)
I haven't started Malazan yet and honestly I'm a little scared, because of it's complexity. But I finally want to read it next year and I'm looking forward to it!


That said, if you have a large range of characters it’s okay to have more. For example in GoT:
- Bran
- Arya
- Ned
- Tyrion
- Jamie
- Varys
- Daenerys
Are my favourites and sometimes I hate reading others POV. Brianne is the worst! So if you have a large cast and a diverse enough group to do POVs from I think 5-6 is okay.
(By diverse I mean a child, teen, a man, a woman, a peasant, a royal, etc. —I want an easy way to know the characters without necessarily remembering their name!)

So after a head splitter, like Malazan, I prefer a more dialed in perspective for a while.
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Black Cross (other topics)
Herald of the Storm (other topics)