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message 51: by Kim (new)

Kim | 6417 comments Mod
Tristram wrote: "Hallo friends,

I just borrowed my wife‘s iPad in order to let you know that I am enjoying my stay in Argentina. At the moment, we are staying in Villa Gesell, a seaside resort someone 400 km south..."


If your 10 degrees isn't really 10 degrees, but 50 degrees (fahrenheit), what's so wonderful about that? It won't snow, I can't make a fire in the fireplace or wear sweaters and cover up with quilts. Now 10 degrees fahrenheit would be wonderful, that's -12 to you. I think.


message 52: by Kim (new)

Kim | 6417 comments Mod
Here it's raining, and has been raining, and from what I can tell always will be raining. The bridges are washed away, the houses have basements so filled with water we could swim in them, everything that could wash away, garbage cans, lawn chairs, etc. have been moved to higher ground or inside where they can float around with everything else. I haven't heard anything from the basement lately, so I better go make sure my husband isn't drowning.


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John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Sounds good, Tristram. I'm sure the Malbec in Argentina tastes as good as the lobster enjoyed in Maine.


message 54: by Alissa (new)

Alissa | 317 comments Argentina sounds nice. I wouldn't mind some cooler weather now.

I'm impressed by the details on those caroler dolls. I like their clothes and baskets.


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Tristram Shandy | 5005 comments Mod
As usual, I am talking in Celsius, Kim, as I have never got my head around the Fahrenheit system. For me, 10 degrees are fine because in Germany we now have a gruelling 34 degrees. Must be horrible.

As to Malbec, I have had none yet but we already had some asado.

I hope you are all well whatever the weather is like.


message 56: by Kim (new)

Kim | 6417 comments Mod
Tristram wrote: "As usual, I am talking in Celsius, Kim, as I have never got my head around the Fahrenheit system. For me, 10 degrees are fine because in Germany we now have a gruelling 34 degrees. Must be horrible..."

Thanks for getting me to look up what 34 degrees would be to me.


message 57: by Julie (new)

Julie Kelleher | 1525 comments Kim, I hope you found your husband all right. It's 81 F here, which people where I live think is sweltering hot. Summers here honestly are so stunningly beautiful that it helps make up for an October-May rainy season that leaves our back yard underwater every February. Last spring my kid had to build a boardwalk to access his treehouse.


message 58: by Milena (new)

Milena | 114 comments Hola Tristram, I'm glad to read that you're enjoying your holidays. 10 degrees brrr frio! The weather here is offering us a free sauna every day. I wish you a relaxing holiday. Enjoy your reading. And happy holidays to all the curiosities :-))


message 59: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) We are told it will be 90 degrees today, I have never seen Hardy country so parched. At least the swans have their lagoon, so they are OK.


message 60: by Kim (new)

Kim | 6417 comments Mod
Julie wrote: "Kim, I hope you found your husband all right. It's 81 F here, which people where I live think is sweltering hot. Summers here honestly are so stunningly beautiful that it helps make up for an Octob..."

We are dry again here Julie. Our basement had about 2 inches of water, but not near as bad as some of the other people around us. Since Thursday though, the sun has been shining, not so great a thing for me (migraines), but good for drying things up again. For a day or two we couldn't get out of town, but except for a lot of dried mud for people to clean up and some of the roads still closed, we are back to normal. It's supposed to rain again this week though. :-{


message 61: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments I believe today is Emily Bronte's 200th Birthday.

So Happy Birthday to Emily.


message 62: by Peter (new)

Peter | 3568 comments Mod
John

I’ll raise a glass to her today.


message 63: by Mary Lou (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Anybody have a spare £68,000? Maybe if we all chipped in....

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/l...


message 64: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Didn't we discuss this last year? Who was delegated to hold the cash?


message 65: by Peter (new)

Peter | 3568 comments Mod
I’ve emptied my piggy bank but still am a few pounds short.

As for last year’s cash Jean, I can only say the stock market is a fickle place :-))


message 66: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) LOL!


message 67: by Mary Lou (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Peter wrote: "I’ve emptied my piggy bank but still am a few pounds short.

As for last year’s cash Jean, I can only say the stock market is a fickle place :-))"


I think it was put in the care of a Mr. Merdle.....


message 68: by Alissa (new)

Alissa | 317 comments Nice study table. Dickens's descendants kept it until December 2017. I wonder what made them sell it just recently.


message 69: by Xan (new)

Xan  Shadowflutter (shadowflutter) | 1014 comments Do you think Bernie Madoff read Little Dorrit?

By the way, speaking of names -- Madoff?!? He's a Dickens character.


message 70: by Mary Lou (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Xan Shadowflutter wrote: "Do you think Bernie Madoff read Little Dorrit?

By the way, speaking of names -- Madoff?!? He's a Dickens character."


Ha! True!

I'm going to see a dog that we may adopt this afternoon. He's an 11 month old white boxer (deaf - could be a deal breaker for my husband), and his name is Casper. If we get him, I'm thinking I'll stick with the ghost thing, but change his name to Marley. Stay tuned....


message 71: by Peter (new)

Peter | 3568 comments Mod
Mary Lou wrote: "Xan Shadowflutter wrote: "Do you think Bernie Madoff read Little Dorrit?

By the way, speaking of names -- Madoff?!? He's a Dickens character."

Ha! True!

I'm going to see a dog that we may adopt ..."


My fingers are crossed that Marley finds himself at your home in the near future.


message 72: by Xan (new)

Xan  Shadowflutter (shadowflutter) | 1014 comments Interesting you mention Marley, Peter. I'm reading Moby Dick and there is a chapter in which the 3rd Mate, Stubbs, has a dream, and in this dream he is confronted by a "merman" who warns Stubbs. Stubbs wants to kick the Merman, so the Merman bends over revealing marlinspikes impaled in his butt. Go ahead and kick, if you dare.

With A Christmas Carol being published in the early 1840s and Moby Dick in 1851, I immediately made a connection between the Merman and Marley, both being punished, the Merman with his marlinspikes and Marley with his chains, and both warning the living.

My mind makes weird associations.


message 73: by Julie (new)

Julie Kelleher | 1525 comments Xan Shadowflutter wrote: "Interesting you mention Marley, Peter. I'm reading Moby Dick and there is a chapter in which the 3rd Mate, Stubbs, has a dream, and in this dream he is confronted by a "merman" who warns Stubbs. St..."

Marlinspikes in the butt to look forward to: yet another reason I will never finish Moby Dick.

Good luck with the boxer, Mary Lou. I was thinking maybe he'd be confused if you changed from Casper to Marley, but then I remembered he won't hear either name, so I guess he won't mind!


message 74: by Mary Lou (last edited Aug 02, 2018 04:10AM) (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Julie wrote: Good luck with the boxer, Mary Lou.

The boxer didn't work out for us for more reasons than I could possibly detail here, but God bless him. The search continues to find a buddy for (E)Stella.

PS Marlin spikes in a merman's butt?? I have no idea what to do with that.


message 75: by Kim (new)

Kim | 6417 comments Mod
Julie, it's good to know there's another person out there who could have gone their entire life never touching Moby Dick and be perfectly happy about it.


message 76: by Xan (new)

Xan  Shadowflutter (shadowflutter) | 1014 comments This is like my 5th attempt, and it's working this time because I'm reading it with the Classics and the Western Canon GR group. So far so good. Of course I have a long way to go.


message 77: by Julie (new)

Julie Kelleher | 1525 comments I've only made 3 attempts, so I guess there's still hope for me. Or not-hope, depending on your point-of-view.


message 78: by John (last edited Aug 03, 2018 08:17PM) (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments I am an old English major and never read Moby Dick. I do recall my class in 19th century American Literature. We read Hawthorne, Emerson, Dickinson, Whitman, Thoreau, and James. This is what I recall.


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John (jdourg) | 1219 comments I was reading an essay by Jonathan Lethem about Dickens (in particular, Dombey and Son) and came across a book that he appeared to endorse and recommend. At least by way of mentioning and referring to it. It might not be easily found, but seems interesting enough to try through alibris.com

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


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Mary Lou | 2701 comments John wrote: "I was reading an essay by Jonathan Lethem about Dickens (in particular, Dombey and Son) and came across a book that he appeared to endorse and recommend. At least by way of mentioning and referring..."

Looks interesting, but then I checked Amazon -- $162 for the cheapest copy! If you come across one, let us know how you like it!


message 81: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Mary Lou wrote: "John wrote: "I was reading an essay by Jonathan Lethem about Dickens (in particular, Dombey and Son) and came across a book that he appeared to endorse and recommend. At least by way of mentioning ..."

Yeah, I think it is out of my price range. I saw a copy for $189.


message 82: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Ooops. Wait. Alibris to the rescue.

https://www.alibris.com/The-Reader-in...


message 83: by Bionic Jean (last edited Aug 05, 2018 05:23AM) (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Or if you can use Amazon.co.uk., you can get it for £13.55 with free delivery. Oddly, although it's a shop in the USA, so can I!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...


message 84: by Kim (new)

Kim | 6417 comments Mod
I am currently reading Unnatural Death by Dorothy L. Sayers and came across this, my head hurts too bad to ponder it for long, but you all are welcome to:

"I've got a new car, by the way, which you'll like."
Mr. Parker took one look at the slim black monster, with its long rakish body and polished-copper twin exhausts, and decided there and then that the only hope of getting down to Epping without interference was to look as official as possible and wave his police authority under the eyes of every man in blue along the route. He shoe-horned himself into his seal without protest, and was more unnerved than relieved to find himself shoot suddenly ahead of the traffic - not with the bellowing roar of the ordinary racing engine, but in a smooth, uncanny silence.
"The new Daimler Twin-Six," said Lord Peter, skimming dexterously round a lorry without appearing to look at it. "With a racing body. Specially built . . . useful . . . gadgets . . . no row - hate row . . . like Edmund Sparkler . . . very anxious there should be no row . . . Little Dorrit . . . remember . . . call her Mrs. Merdle . . . for that reason . . . presently we'll see what she can do."


And later,

Take care of that bottle, old man, it may have finger-prints on it."
"You can have the bottle," said Wimsey. "May we ne'er lack a friend or a bottle to give him, as Dick Swiveller says."



message 85: by Julie (new)

Julie Kelleher | 1525 comments Kim, I have been told repeatedly I should read Sayers. This might do it.


message 86: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Very interesting about Sayers. I must admit, I had only vaguely heard of her and was not familiar with her work. She sounds like a modernist writer that came out of the World War 1 years with fairly dynamic fiction. World War 1 and the rise of Modernism have been interests of mine lately and for a number of years.


message 87: by Mary Lou (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Having not read TOCS yet, I don't get the Dick Swiveller line.

I'm trying to remember details about Edmund Sparkler. Was he known for disliking confrontation? I guess he had to keep Fannie and his mother at arm's length.

Anyone?


message 88: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) I love Edmund Sparkler, with "no nonsense about him" don't you know, and not a hint of aggression either. Poor sap, a gentle soul, but much put upon by the females around him. Mrs Merdle's son, beau of Fanny, "little" Amy Dorrit's older rather designing and upwardly mobile sister.


message 89: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Dorothy L. Sayers is a cut above most detective fiction of that period - dare I say it's more literary?


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Mary Lou | 2701 comments Something I'd never heard, posted by the Dickens Museum on Twitter this morning:

As a boy, #Dickens was a voracious reader and was particularly fond of this adventure story by Daniel Defoe. No other character not created by Dickens is so frequently mentioned in his works as #RobinsonCrusoe.

(Dickens quote) We have never grown the thousandth part of an inch out of "Robinson Crusoe". He fits us just as well, and in exactly the same way as when we were among the smallest of the small.

I guess now I have to read Robinson Crusoe.


message 91: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Mary Lou wrote: "Something I'd never heard, posted by the Dickens Museum on Twitter this morning:

As a boy, #Dickens was a voracious reader and was particularly fond of this adventure story by Daniel Defoe. No oth..."


Very interesting website. My first visit and I bookmarked it. I'll have to do further perusing.


message 92: by Julie (new)

Julie Kelleher | 1525 comments I enjoy Robinson Crusoe. It's very sloppily structured--if you're used to novels. The plot's loose, and my students are always pointing out the contradictions in the diary and so forth. But it's compelling in the questions it raises about the relationship between individuals and their societies. It sticks in the mind and makes for good discussion.


message 93: by Mary Lou (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Peter -- Good for you for moving to be closer to your grandson! Even at only an hour and 15 minutes away, I sometimes wish we were closer to our granddaughter. Every visit is like that moment in "The Miracle Worker" where Helen Keller finally realizes that the hand signals have specific meanings. We can literally see her face light up when she makes connections, and she's making those connections ALL THE TIME. It's an amazing thing. (I'm sure we had those moments as parents, but perhaps I've forgotten, or was just too exhausted and close to the situation to pick up on so many of them.) She's walking now, and some of her first steps were to us, which is such a delight. I'm so glad that you and your wife will be close enough to be able to have these experiences!

On a sad note, there's a possibility that my daughter's family will be transferring to Germany for a year, and I'll start missing out on these moments. Selfishly, I hope it won't happen, but it will be good for my SIL's career, and a nice experience for them. Video chats are nice, but still not the same as snuggles! And our trip to England was an anomaly - we aren't travelers, and I don't see us going to visit. :-(


message 94: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments I don't know if anyone has experienced this issue, but I have the Goodreads app on my smartphone. I've not been able to access the site lately through it, though. I get the page that says Goodreads is down.


message 95: by Tristram (new)

Tristram Shandy | 5005 comments Mod
Mary Lou wrote: "Peter -- Good for you for moving to be closer to your grandson! Even at only an hour and 15 minutes away, I sometimes wish we were closer to our granddaughter. Every visit is like that moment in "T..."

Mary Lou, do you already know whereabout in Germany? I know the thought of living a great distance from family members - yes, even from my sister - is not really nice, but on the other hand, if it is only for a while, it may be an enrichment for everyone involved.


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Tristram Shandy | 5005 comments Mod
John wrote: "I don't know if anyone has experienced this issue, but I have the Goodreads app on my smartphone. I've not been able to access the site lately through it, though. I get the page that says Goodreads..."

John, I don't know a lot about these things but maybe your app needs an update? Since July or June, my GR app has a new surface, so I guess that it was replaced with a new, updated, version.


message 97: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Tristram wrote: "John wrote: "I don't know if anyone has experienced this issue, but I have the Goodreads app on my smartphone. I've not been able to access the site lately through it, though. I get the page that s..."

Thanks Tristram. I'm going to try what I've done with other apps that have gone finicky: a complete uninstall and then a new install.


message 98: by Xan (last edited Aug 22, 2018 03:35AM) (new)

Xan  Shadowflutter (shadowflutter) | 1014 comments I have had the app on my (android) smartphone for the past month and don't get that message. But it does do weird things sometimes.

I get individual email notifications from Goodreads, and sometimes when I click on the link in the email and the Goodreads app is invoked, it takes me nowhere. It goes off into space. Other times it takes me to my Goodreads homepage instead of the discussion page where it should take me. When I used my browser and not the app, this never happened.

I may switch back to browser because I'm not seeing the advantage of using the app.


message 99: by Mary Lou (last edited Aug 22, 2018 03:51AM) (new)

Mary Lou | 2701 comments Tristram wrote: "do you already know whereabout in Germany?..."

I can't remember what they told me, but the company headquarters is in Heidenheim, so that would be my guess. If it happens, I'll let you know for sure where they are.

Hope you enjoyed your vacation!


message 100: by John (new)

John (jdourg) | 1219 comments Xan Shadowflutter wrote: "I have had the app on my (android) smartphone for the past month and don't get that message. But it does do weird things sometimes.

I get individual email notifications from Goodreads, and sometim..."


I mostly use and view Goodreads on my desktop PC at home. My browser is Opera. As similar to you, I have never had a problem with the desktop and browser. I like the app for occasionally viewing from my phone, but it is not optimum for reading through discussions (at least for me).


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