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It's all about the atmosphere and entertainment for me, Blastro.When you go to the Cinema in Marple you queue to go in and get served at the original old Box Office Window and get issued with an old-fashioned Ticket. You have to wait until you are taken up the Stairs across the Landing and down some Stairs again to be shown to your Seat by a young Usherette in full Uniform. And there are three sets of red Curtains that open up to reveal the film on the Screen.
We still buy Soft Drinks and little Ice Cream tubs or Cornettos off the two Usherettes (wearing those Trays that strap around their Necks) at the Intermission after the Trailers have been shown.
It's always a special night out - and it only costs £4.50 to get in ;o>
Yeah 'Sterile' is as good a word as any for modern cinema. Reckon we agree re remakes Tech, tho once a blue moon, one of em works out. Scarface and The Thing (82) are good examples of a decent (Exceptional?) remake but to be fair neither are recent. Did ya ever watch the more recent remake of Carpenter's The Thing, which was billed as a prequel? For the first half hour or so, I thought it was going ok but the further we got into the film, the more it seemed to rely heavily on CGI and by the end the alien looked - for my money at least - a tad ridiculous; more laughable than freaky! There's a place in today's cinema for computer animation and stuff, but some film-makers get a bit over-reliant on it I reckon. Looks a decent night out does that Suze and £4.50's around the going rate for anywhere else I think, so can't grumble there. Can't imagine watching the old Rocky films in a small place like that but it looks perfect for an atmospheric-type horror film maybe - the type you're not likely to go to tho. : )
Really good that traditional kinda 'Picture houses' still exist and refuse to bend with the times.
EDIT No2 - The missus informs me that nowadays it's nearer to a tenner than a fiver but she goes more often than me now. I went earlier in the year (or late last year?) and coulda swore it wasn't that much but I'll take the other half's word over my dodgy memory most of the time. That makes your above price even better then Suze!
Our local Odeon charges £10.75 for adult standard seats, add another £2 for premium. Big change from my childhood, Saturday morning pictures for us kids was sixpence downstairs,ninepence upstairs, feature films two bob or half a crown and you got two films, a support then main feature with an interval for purchasing comestibles from the usherette and visiting the toilet. Real value for money! These days with taxis followed usually by a meal and drinks for two of us you're well into three figures for a night out.
Ah remember when t'ole family could go aht to t'fleapit to see t'latest blockbuster, sup us fill o' beer in t'pub, 'ave a slap-up fish supper, gerra charanc 'ome and still 'ave change aht o'a farthin', You try tellin' t'kids o' today that an' they won't believe yer!
We also have The Savoy in Heaton Moor - it's a bit bigger and a lot posher inside and out and charges £7.50 ...
Lovers' seats at the back …. in velour; wonder how they get the stains out
It is always spotless - the Seats have Drink and Snacks Trays attached ;o> ...
https://lovinmanchester.com/unique-ex...
Brass Neck wrote: "Ah remember when t'ole family could go aht to t'fleapit to see t'latest blockbuster, sup us fill o' beer in t'pub, 'ave a slap-up fish supper, gerra charanc 'ome and still 'ave change aht o'a farth..."Ah a visit to t'pictures in t'old Robin Reliant on a wikend; a rate nice way t'end a wik o' 16 hr shifts down t'pit wi nowt for snap-time each day but a ferret sandwich!
Martin wrote: "Our local Odeon charges £10.75 for adult standard seats, add another £2 for premium. Big change from my childhood, Saturday morning pictures for us kids was sixpence downstairs,ninepence upstairs, ..."Sounds about right Martin. Apparently it's £11.70 for adults at Cineworld near town. I was a tad out with my first guess it seems. Can vaguely remember double features - Cactus Jack comes to mind as something I yawned through as a kid, either cos I wanted me money's worth (yeah right) or was waiting for the next pic.
suzysunshine7 wrote: "It is always spotless - the Seats have Drink and Snacks Trays attached ;o> ...https://lovinmanchester.com/unique-ex..."
Them there seats have lovely quaint cushions. They'd be pinched if it was round here I'm afraid; not cos folk would use em for anything or owt, but just because they're not bolted down. Yes, very cultured folk around these parts. : )
Well, seeing as I'm monologuing...Top B-Sides; no more than one entry per band (holding back my Jam bias a tad) and in no particular order...
The Writer - UFO (Back Into My Life)
PCP - Manics (Faster)
Pity Poor Alfie - The Jam (Bitterest Pill)
Aneurysm - Nirvana (Smells Like... 12")
Satellite - Sex Pistols (Holidays In The Sun)
Acquiesce - Oasis (Some Might Say)
Police Truck - Dead Kennedys (Holiday In Cambodia)
Runaways - Senseless Things (Primary Instinct)
Here It Comes - Stone Roses (Sally Cinnamon 12")
Havana Affair - Ramones (Blitzkrieg Bop)
Yes Oasis are up there and I like a bit of pop music! Slay me with a barrage of elitism then!!
b-sides, blastro, i like b-sides, and when i get a wee bit of time today i'm going to directly copy your idea with my own (whilst discounting just about every dub track, as they were practically all b-sides!)
10 storming b-sides (that are not versions or dubs, or double a-sides)1 - 'zyklon b zombie' - throbbing gristle (united)
2 - '1977' - the clash (white riot)
3 - 'she said' - the cramps (goo goo muck)
4 - 'the fountain is red, the fountain is white' - doll by doll (the palace of love)
5 - 'circus of death' - the human league (being boiled)
6 - ''heart of darkness' - pere ubu (30 seconds over tokyo)
7 - 'i don't care' - ramones (sheena is a punk rocker)
8 - 'radio sweetheart' - elvis costello (less than zero)
9 - 'dream tobacco' - max wall (england's glory) seriously!
10 - 'goldfinger' - magazine (touch and go)
Tech wrote: "b-sides, blastro, i like b-sides, and when i get a wee bit of time today i'm going to directly copy your idea with my own (whilst discounting just about every dub track, as they were practically al..."Yeah dude I also thought I'd better discount dance music... I mean in most cases the B-sides are different mixes (usually better, mind) of the A-side track so I wondered if that might be cheating.
you can't cheat if there's no rules, blastro, you could go for your top 10 mixes then!
Reckon I'll have a go at that then Tech... tho incredibly hard to narrow down to 10. Don't get me wrong, I prefer many original (apart form 3 min long radio edits) versions but at least half the time a better mix can be found. Shall bring forth a list but forgive me if they're 90s (and maybe 00s) tracks rather than more recent stuff.
Actually easier than I expected, this, as more-or-less the first that came into my mind, I jotted down on a bit of paper (yeah I still use scraps of paper whilst everyone else uses their phones) t'other night when watching TV. Whilst there's loads I'll have forgotten for the time being, it must be said that these ten are amongst my top mixes of all time.All house (well, there's one break-beat track - answers on a postcard as to which one) tunes I'm afraid, and all pre-millennium... but I've tried to keep it to mixes/remixes that sound more different to the original than just the odd tweak like a couple more "Oohs" "Aahs" or hand-claps....
I'll Be Your Friend (Def Instrumental Mix) - Robert Owens
Something About You (Deerstalker Dub Mix) - Mr Roy
Lover (K-Klass Klub Mix) - Joe Roberts
Express Yourself (Original Don Mix) - Family Foundation
No Matter What You Do (Corporation Express Dub Mix) - The Flavour
Do That To Me (Vocal Experience Mix Part 1) - Lisa Marie Experience
What You Need (Luv Dup Mix) - Soft House Company
Jam The Dance (Cool Bass Mix) - Asmo
2 Hype (House Instrumental) - Kid n Play
Better Days (Sasha Remix) - Jimi Polo
Like I said, soooooo many tunes but... if anyone asked me at any time off top of me head, the above would always be among those mentioned.
Doubt any of yous have heard the original 'Lover' by Joe Roberts. Check it out sometime and imagine my horror when I listened to it after purchasing the CD single from 'zon. At that particular time, I realized not that it was the K-Klass mix that I needed, which most definitely not anywhere to be seen on the disc. Said mix is actually a tad rare on CD (not much point getting the vinyl when I got CDJs) and I had to purchase one of the 'Retro' comps (which all three are essential to any 90s clubber so's ok anyhow) to get me hands on it.
Err, sorry for banging on about stuff that has no relevance whatsoever to anyone on here but meself. Is there some kinda illness that compels one to disclose everything to everyone? Have to look that one up.
Maybe a 'Post-Millennium' ten next? Will see.
knock y'sel' out! i think it's fascinating that particular mixes can only be located on certain compilations - it's a different way of going about things.
To tell ya the truth Tech, I really don't know what I'd have done over the years without Discogs (for anyone who's not familiar, it's a marketplace for music of all shapes n sizes) as it's a most excellent place to do one's searching for that hard to find tune or mix. Y'ever use said site yerself?A quick break from electronica with what I think are cracking cover versions; one entry per-band as usual...
My Way - Sid Vicious (Frank Sinatra and, errr, other folk who wrote it?)
Diamond And Rust - Judas Priest (Joan Baez)
She's Not There - UK Subs (The Zombies)
Suspicious Minds - Fine Young Cannibals (Elvis Presley)
Up Around The Bend - Hanoi Rocks (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
David Watts - The Jam (The Kinks)
Where Did You Sleep Last Night - Nirvana (Lead Belly)
Last Caress - Metallica (The Misfits)
Ain't It Fun - Guns N Roses (Rocket From The Tombs)
I Can't Control Myself - Ramones (The Troggs)
Also, as usual, am pretty sure there's loads I've forgotten but... these'll do for now.
Yes Blastro, I use Discogs all the time. I’ve found stuff there that I ‘d given up on. I’ve even found obscure classical there. Can be a bit pricey but worth it.
Lez wrote: "Yes Blastro, I use Discogs all the time. I’ve found stuff there that I ‘d given up on. I’ve even found obscure classical there. Can be a bit pricey but worth it."Ditto
Yeah I guess Discogs is a bit of a treasure trove for most of us lovers of music, regardless of what genre. Between Discogs and Youtube I've discovered the identity of every (might be the odd un that's gone under the radar) track/mix that I loved and 'threw shapes' to back in the day.To put that into perspective a tad, I collected many many copy/bootleg mixed tapes over the 90s with just the DJs name on em. When ya went out, ya knew some of the tunes but not what they were called; only ones ya knew were the ones that charted and in most cases (not all but most) they were disposable efforts that ya didn't hear in the clubs in any case. It's taken years (since I first came online really) to track down every tune I was after but I've more-or-less concluded the search now and quite enjoyed the seeking. Dunno if any of ya remember the dance thread/s from Zon's MF but sometimes when I tracked down something I was looking for, I'd get a tad excited and post the Youtube link and say how pleased I was!
Discogs! You're the dog's!! : )
i've never bought anything from discogs, but i find it invaluable for reference and information purposes.
Some classic debuts (one album only bands excluded) in no particular orderPiper At The Gates Of Dawn - Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground & Nico - Velvet Underground
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
In The Court Of The Crimson King - King Crimson
The Doors - The Doors
Neu! - Neu!
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
Roxy Music - Roxy Music
Marcus Garvey - Burning Spear*
Damned Damned Damned - Damned
Marquee Moon - Television
Ramones - Ramones
Suicide - Suicide
Rattus Norvegicus - Stranglers
The Clash - The Clash
The Modern Dance - Pere Ubu
Cut - The Slits
Live At The Witch Trials - The Fall
Pink Flag - Wire
Handsworth Revolution - Steel Pulse
Unknown Pleasures - Joy Division
Live At The Counter Eurovision '79 - Misty In Roots
Return Of The Durutti Column - Durutti Column
The Smiths - The Smiths
Stone Roses - Stone Roses
Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld - The Orb
Debut - Björk
Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not - Arctic Monkeys
Music Has The Right To Children - Boards Of Canada
*there is an album called 'Rocking Time' by Burning Spear, consisting of stuff recorded circa 1969-71, but Marcus Garvey is his first 'real' album.
Edited to add Television
you mean it's his first 'rock' album? :)i make 'marcus garvey' spear's third album, after the above, and firstly 'studio one presents burning spear'
Just for the record - how the hell did I not put David Watts on the covers list? That was one of the first that came to mind! Duh!! As much as I like Heatwave, gonna have to edit that. Agree with at least three of them there above debuts Tim. Stuff to do now but may do a list of my own upon returning.
Tech wrote: "you mean it's his first 'rock' album? :)i make 'marcus garvey' spear's third album, after the above, and firstly 'studio one presents burning spear'"
Somehow I knew it was bad idea to include a reggae album here! Having checked both the others, they seem to consist of material recorded for Studio One over an extended period (ie assemblages) rather than being an album recorded as an album, which would make Marcus Garvey the first proper album. That's my excuse, anyway.
Nobody noticed that 'Debut' isn't Björk's first solo album! The real one was made when she was about 11 years old, in 1977. 😂
Top ten debuts...Stone Roses - Stone Roses
Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedys
Bring It On - Gomez
Generation Terrorists - Manic Street Preachers
Appetite For Destruction - Guns n Roses
Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes Hanoi Rocks - Hanoi Rocks
The Distillers - The Distillers
Ramones - Ramones
The Clash - The Clash
Sixteen Stone - Bush
Arctic Monkeys might be in there on another day...
EDIT - How could I not put The Distillers first effort up there? Not as good as their other two but as good as some of the above. Hmm, ok Oasis out, Distillers in.
Don't hit me Liam,,,
Ya tw@!
some more classic debuts not included in the above lists (any reggae albums will be entered whether or not they were made under babylon's rules :)'remember' - doll by doll
'heart of the congos'
'the image has cracked' - alternative t.v.
'this is augustus pablo'
'songs the lord taught us' - the cramps
'entertainment' - gang of four
'the strange boutique' - the monochrome set
'africa must be free by 1983' - hugh mundell
'y' - the pop group
'aswad'
'real life' - magazine
'the only ones'
'best dressed chicken in town' - dr. alimantado
'ultravox'
'my aim is true' - elvis costello
'satta massagana' - the abyssinians
'searching for the young soul rebels' - dexy's midnight runners
'the specials'
'god' - rip rig and panic
'psalms for i' - prince far i
'the crack' - the ruts
'fire of love' - the gun club
'dread beat an' blood' - poet and the roots
notable exceptions,
throbbing gristle (much debate as to what counts as their debut)
eek a mouse (discogs lists 'wa do dem' as 1st, but i am certain there is an album before it, 'buble up yo hip', which 'hot milk' were going to re-issue (but didn't) a few years back.
top 10 highly anticipated debut albums that turned out to be a load of shight,1 - 'never mind the bollocks, here's the sex pistols'
2 - 'in the flat field' - bauhaus
3 - '999'
4 - 'movement' - new order (more turgid than shight really)
5 - 'fulham fallout' - the lurkers
6 - 'motorhead' (yes, i was actually looking forward to this, at the time!)
7 - 'signing on' - ub40 (see 6)
8 - 'pure mania' - the vibrators
9 - 'tell us the truth' - sham 69
10 - 'boy' - u2
Can't agree with your Bauhaus and Motorhead choice Tech. I was listening to 'In The Flat Field' only last week. At worst it's a bit patchy, but an album that contains 'Dark Entries', Double Dare', ah sod it the first 4 songs on the album are mint, is no way "a load of shight". Not to mention, 'St Vitus Dance', their version of 'Telegram Sam' and the classic 'Terror Couple Killed Colonel'. I mean it did have some stinkers, namely 'Spy In The Cab' and 'Nerves', but the good far out weighs the bad imo. The Motorhead album is all good.
the singles you mention, are good, i have some of them (throw in the brilliant 'passion of lovers', 'kick in the eye' and others), but none were on the original 10 track album, which after having been knocked out by their live act, i found to be a let down - almost completely without their live energy (their version of mr glitter's 'do you wanna touch me' was as inappropriate then as it is now, and belting to boot!)
Yeah, wish I'd seen them live. :-( Forget my remark about Motorhead's album, got it confused with their 4th album, 'Ace Of Spades'.
easy done with motorhead! :)after a couple of cracking singles, their 1st album was like listening to porridge!
Yeah gotta agree re Motorhead's debut. Not great. Bomber and Overkill were much better but Ace Of Spades really was the dog's. Bloody great album. No filler. Been exchanging messages with a 'long time no see' cousin on FB* the last couple of week and he tells me he once had a beer with Animal Taylor in a since torn down bar near town. 'It was when he'd broken his neck' he said. I said summat like 'Was there ever a time when his neck WASN'T broken!' : ) Maybe it's just me but when I was a kid, he always seemed to have some kinda collar/brace around his neck. Pretty sure he appeared on Top Of The Pops with one on. Never occurred to me that it mighta been a prop.
* - After declaring my hatred of facebook and withdrawing from it a year or two ago, I was 'lured' back by a poster right here on Goodreads. You know who you are!! : )
I still think Motorhead's self-titled album (i.e. the first to be released, rather than the first to be recorded, which was On Parole) was the best one they did. I know Speedy Keen's production was pretty foggy - a Sounds reviewer said it sounded like it had been recorded in a public toilet with the guitarist in a separate cubicle - but the songs were all great. Another track from that session - a cover of the Pink Fairies' City Kids - was the best track they ever recorded. Overkill, Bomber and Ace of Spades each included some killer tracks but also included far too much filler. (All the Aces, anyone? Or Jailbait?) And, of course, none of them had Iron Horse/Born to Lose.
Jailbait's a cracking track!! As for All The Aces... not the greatest but don't think it's on Ace Of Spades. Not on my old vinyl edition in any case. The weakest track on AOS is imo, Fire Fire, and it's still listenable. Only track that i reckon could be regarded as filler.
Have to agree with Gordon. The only thing substandard about Motorhead's debut is the production
Now this is what I like about this Goodreads place. No negging people's posts, so if one is to disagree (or agree) then one has to write something, rather than simply - and more important, anonymously - click a box... or just say nowt, of course.
Oooh? - lovely Buttons! ... just ... gotta ... press ... one ... ! ...
suzysunshine7 wrote: "Oooh? - lovely Buttons! ... just ... gotta ... press ... one ... ! ..."
Darn It!! I keep hitting that red one but nothing happens. 😂
suzysunshine7 wrote: "Oooh? - lovely Buttons! ... just ... gotta ... press ... one ... ! ..."
Unfortunately that may also be the mindset of Trump and Jong-un
Brass Neck wrote: "suzysunshine7 wrote: "Oooh? - lovely Buttons! ... just ... gotta ... press ... one ... ! ..."
Unfortunately that may also be the mindset of Trump and Jong-un"
And to think they called Gotti 'The Teflon Don' - the new Don 'Trumps' JG when it comes to ducking n diving.
Sorry, couldn't help meself...
...and 'Ducking n diving' is paying him too much a compliment - he aint that bright! Just fire any ****** that gets close to any political naughtiness.
'Land Of The Free' my arse!! 'Land Of People That Are Loyal To The Man' more like... al-a-Vlad.
I'd actually wager a quid-or-two on the fact that several posters don't come on here simply cos they no longer have the ability to 'neg' away randomly on someone they don't like. I'm not that daft to think folk didn't make the transition for other reasons but... I can think of the odd character that fits that 'negger' bill perfectly.
Reckon there's still the odd un among the 100-or-so of us here that would enjoy having that button back to mess with!?
And now I suppose - just for the sake of contradicting me - someone's gonna tell me how clever Trump is with his "If I wanted to put a bit of hairspray on in my sealed apartment, how can that do any damage?" I'm going on a bit. Three unanswered posts on the spin? How sad is that?
Are we all agreed that the Donald wears swimming goggles when his fake tan is sprayed on? It makes for a very strange effect.
The Don's a genius, it's just that the rest of the world hasn't caught up yet. He's effectively a 2yo that everyone treats like a walking, talking, thinking, important adult because that's how we're supposed to treat important politicians. We say, you lied about this, he says no i didn't it wasn't me, we say here's the proof, he says you're all liars with an agenda against America. And because rolling news is now a thing, what used to take weeks or months to build up and fallout is suddenly pushed aside in 5 minutes as the next calamity occurs, A week with Supernanny and we'd have a half way decent chance of him becoming a sub-below normal adult.
"Three unanswered posts on the spin? How sad is that?"you do remember the dub/reggae thread from amazon? spent many a happy hour there talking to myself! :)
you're also right (jings you're on a roll!) about today's strerile cinemas. matches the sterile, and often re-made, dross on the screens. (for the most part)