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Bursting Out, Jethro Tull is an excellent live album to my ears
Derek wrote: "Bursting Out, Jethro Tull is an excellent live album to my ears"Yes I have it but too much pretending to be a c(o)unt(r)y gentleman and instrumental faffage for my liking; this is after all lists based on personal opinions. At least he could sing then unlike the last time I saw Anderson and some hired hands in Cambridge - just a whispery husk emerged and we left at the interval.
My nr one, and still listening when bit tired at work - drum roll......Status Quo - Live! 1972-1976 these awesome guys could do no wrong.
Faves before, honorable second place - split between Purps Made In Japan and Slade Alive, these bands could kick arse too at the time!
Well the rest I prefer watch and listen on DVD with proper surround if possible, Pink Floyd Pulse is an eye & ear candy, AC/DC - NO Bull (fantastic crowd in Madrid), coupla Alice Cooper shows, Live 1973 and Brutal Planet from 2000. Hmm I got even Dido in concert.
Oh, Stray Cats are fantastic both audio/video.
plus
Led Zeppelin - How The West Was Won
Camel - A Live Record
Ten Years After - Recorded Live
Ah I knew I'd forget at least one - Dance Craze would have to be in me top ten. Massive album from childhood wuz that un. Still sounds great to me.
Changes. Purps and Slade move to honourable third place, getting replaced by Stones1. Get Yer Ya Yas Out!
2. Live at University of Leeds, 1971
3. Brussells Affair Live, 1973
My favourite gig venues;The Hope Tavern - regular (well they were pre-Covid) bi-weekly Sunday afternoon blues sessions, there's nowhere more intimate (no stage, just an area of the carpet next to the men's bogs after the landlord has cleared away the Sunday lunch accoutrements and rearranged the seating with a capacity of maybe 60 and bands seem to be spurred on by the enthusiastic and respectful crowd. Two hand-pulled beers from Horncastle Brewery; the dodgily named Wicked Blond and Lilith's Lust, it is mildly disconcerting to be asked by the barmaid if I want some Lust. They do cold roast meat sarnies at half-time for £2.50 and sometimes there are free roast tatties which are to die for, Mrs Neck has never achieved such crispness and fluffiness.
Sheffield Greystones - the Back Room as it says on the stage back, capacity about 200, great atmosphere, interesting eclectic range of middling bands and, since it's the 'flagship' of Thornbridge Brewery, superb range of 7/8 hand-pulled beers (pity I'm always driving). Since it's surrounded by housing they have to keep the doors shut and it used to get like the Black Hole of Calcutta in Summer but now they have a big old air-con unit. Free carer's tickets!
Hull Adelphi - scuzziest venue ever but a great atmosphere and good range of hand-pulled beers. Last time I was there the smoke machine which has to be switched on by hand by the lighting man coming down from his position at the back was so powerful and non-dissipating that the guitarist literally could not see his own instrument and I couldn't make out anything onstage!
Leeds Brudenell - a regular trip, great range of middle-ranked bands, narrow range of 2/3 real ales, the main room is much better than the soulless Community Room and they do nice pies. Free carer's tickets!
Sheffield City Hall - bypassed by most tours now as is the soulless Motorpoint Arena (bloody Leeds!) but it was my place of musical worship and education from about 1972 onwards. Great acoustics and sightlines, geriatric, over-dressed bouncers but the last two gigs I went to there, Robert Cray and Richard Thompson solo were maybe only around half to two thirds full. I turned down a ticket to go see Genesis in about 78. Free carer's tickets!
O2 Academies various - Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester (3 of 'em?), Birmingham (3+), crap beer but great range of bigger bands. Free carer's tickets!
Grimsby Yardbirds - also serving as the clubhouse for the Warlocks Hell's Angels MC, it's been killed by an overambitious expansion from 220 to 500 capacity during lockdown but I've had some great nights down there. Good range of bottled beers but otherwise it's all keg, the new PA is mint in terms of sound quality but it's just not got enough volume to fill the cavernous and under-populated void so people can and do chat at near-normal volumes thereby annoying music fans like yours truly. Oh Yardies, what were you thinking? You were a great small club in a rough part of a rough town at the arse-end of nowhere but now ........
Arenas - just nope, not anymore. Soulless, crap sound, long queues for crap beer and the loos and usually packed full of out of it idiots desperate to spread their inebriated and unhinged 'love' of the band or bored non-fans who've come with their mates and want to shout at each other throughout.
Yeah another shout here for Sheff City Hall (80s). Great venue.Anyone ever go to Derby Assembly Rooms? Saw WASP and Warlock there in '86 and was the loudest gig I ever attended. Every time Doro Pesch yelled, that high pitch was like a hot poker to me brain! Didn't seem to bother the veterans as they just replied in unison "Get yer tits out for the lads!" - err, pardon me French. Was also my first gig so.... maybe my virgin ears just popped their cherry? Nothing was that loud again... not even the illegal blues CJs down Sheff in the early 90s; 'Raves' were held therein at the weekends and the stacks were just a couple of feet away from where yer boogieing and the ceiling not too much higher than your living room! Small place, massive sound. Felt like ya had Tinnitus when walking outta there on a Sunday morn.
I guess that be a 'No, never even heard of DAR' then? Ok I rephrase - What be the loudest gig any of yous attended? If not loudest, then the sleaziest - and when I say 'sleazy' I don't mean Faster Pussycat and Motley Crue sleazy, but bikers, ne'er-do-wellers and/or just a deep dark dirty hole in general.
loudest?out of a lot of louds, it's unquestionably motorhead at the apollo, indicated by the 10 days partial deafness after it. i went with a metal pal (mickey?) but none of his metal mates liked motorhead, none of my punk pals liked them. first 'big' tour, had too many speakers. you had to wait till the chorus to get a clue to which song they were playing! i enjoyed it on that basis.
sleaziest?
lux interior just effortlessly oozed sleaziness. i mean a 6'6'' man in a tight pvc thong and size 12 stiletto heels? and remember, those were different days, and that was the glasgow barrowlands, which despite it's lofty reputation, was/still is a mawkit, mingin', sleazy shitehole. so a 2 for 1 answer!
Loudest? My mate won tickets for Motorhead back in the late 70s/early 80s at the City Hall. The towers of speakers were huge and I did actually witness one idiot putting his head in the bass bin and yeah, it was hard to make out individual songs but you don't go to a M'head gig for melodic sensibility.Loudness at gigs is not the problem IMO, it's when the sound guy thinks he's doing the throng and the band a favour by pushing the amplification to its limits and thereby into horrible clipping distortion - that's when you know you're going to have temporary (so far) tinnitus. I was at a poorly attended (but at least the promoter didn't pull the gig like he did with Saturday's Grimsby Rocks on the spurious premise of illness in a couple of the bands whose Facebook pages made no mention of said illnesses and all of whom had shortly upcoming uncancelled gigs!) Cleethorpes Blues and the second band on the bill, Southbound, did exactly what I'd seen them do at Scarborough in the pre-Covid era two years ago - one of the guitarists' onstage amp was so loud it could be heard above the PA totally unbalancing the sound and aimed right at my head. Could it be anything to do with the fact he wore earplugs? Take 'em out buddy and turn your amp down so we can hear what everyone else is contributing to the sound.
Sleaziest would be hard since I wouldn't tend to be attracted to see a band like that. I did see a gig at Sheffield Arena where Steel Panther were openers with their manufactured sleaze. They invited women up to the stage to dance and get their boobs out; several answered the call to do the former but one, to their utter surprise I'm sure went the whole hog, took her top off to reveal some overlarge unyielding paid-for norks. She just stood there on display, didn't dance and the whole thing was just weird and unsexy in the nth degree.
I tell a lie, I did go and see a band with guaranteed nudity; South African sisters' punk band whose name escapes me but who usually play in knickers and body paint. They make a big thing about it being a statement of freedom and not being inhibited about your body which is fine if you're lithe and lissom as they are but for the over 40 mainly male and overweight punters in various stages of decrepitude, not so much. You had to see past the initial shock/titillation of the nudity and the (constantly) jiggling bits to hear that they can play and could get by without the nudity but then would they get half the audience? They invited punters up on stage to disrobe, a call answered only by a handful of men and the younger ones at that. Most of them stopped sensibly at their tidy whiteys but when one lad dropped the lot, the Yardbirds manager raced on stage to pull his drawers back up - could cost him his licence I guess if that got on t'interweb?
Edit - they were the SoapGirls - here they are on a previous visit to the pre-expansion Yardbirds; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7pym...
oh, nudity/partial nudity?apart from lux, the stranglers had a stripper onstage ('black and white' tour) at the apollo, to accompany, appropriately enough, 'nice 'n' sleazy'!
the beastie boys had bikini clad dancers in cages at barrowlands, on the controversial first tour, who happily? danced the duration of the event, and obliged at adrock's 'don't you think it's time we saw the girlie's t*tt**s?'
on neither occasion did i look!
nudity?I can't recall who was headlining now, but the support act was Heavy Pettin' (remember them?) in the days prior to their ill-fated and career trashing attempt to enter Eurovision (!) After their slot, when the compere - possibly Tommy Vance - was on stage doing the intro for the main attraction, their singer roller-skated stark bollock naked onto the stage right up to poor old TV on the Radio.
Loudest would probably have been Venom at the Hammy Odeon.
Loudest - obviously Motörhead, too: Birmingham Odeon 1979 (Overkill tour: brilliant) and 1981 (Ace of Spades tour, not so great). I'm not sure whether my chronic hearing problems are a consequence of those events. I don't think so, as it's my auditory processing rather than acuity that's the problem. Bouncingest - The Pogues, Whitelands College (now Roehampton University) either late 1984 or early 1985. Red Roses for Me had just been released, Shane McGowan was strumming G all the way through because that's all his level of intoxication allowed, Guinness 40p a can, ...
Bestest - John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers, Fabrik, Hamburg 1995. Absolutely top of his game with Buddy Whittington on lead guitar, Rick Cortes on bass and Joe Yuele on drums. I actually saw them at the beginning and end of the same tour. By the end of the tour they'd changed their bassist and seemed to have lost something.
Biggest - Tom Waits, Hammersmith Odeon 1987. Just because it was Tom Waits. Live. In England. Doesn't happen often.
Wildest - John Otway & Wild Willy Barrett, Weavers Arms, Stoke Newington, 1990. Need I say more?
Freakiest - Wobblin' Watkins & the Wobblers, Hare & Hounds, Islington, 1992 (I think). Cajun accordionist Geraint Watkins (session player and former Balham Alligator) with a small R&B/jazz band. Opened with There Ain't Nobody Here but Us Chickens, which set the tone: swinging all the way.
Worst - Deep Purple, Hammersmith Odeon 1991. Utter, utter crap.
Never been to a gig in an arena/stadium, and can't imagine ever having any desire to.
For being dark and dangerous, the aforementioned CJs in Sheff where firearms were said to be kept behind the bars and the the law paid to turn a blind eye to the place's activities (I mean if you weren't either high or aiming to get high then you really had no business being there... or even in the carpark!) takes some beating. I'll count it as a gig because they did have acts on in there; they had a 'stage' but less said about that the better.Will have to give a mention to the Monsters Of Rock festivals at Donny in the 80s. An experience for sure with plastic containers of piss sailing end-over-end overhead for the most of the duration. And the last one I went to when those two lads were crushed to death God bless em - that was scary. I was only a few yards back from the 'mud-bowl' where that happened. Me feet left the floor several times as the crowd went from side to side. Totally packed together; sardines is just not in it! Bloody frightening. I wuz a sixteen yr old welterweight, but even a twenty stone steroid addled freak wouldn't have been able to free themselves from that, not a chance. Rag doll indeed.
I went to one MoR with Rainbow headlining (1980?) and both Knebworth Led Zep gigs - the privations endured put me off large outdoor affairs for ever.
Gordon wrote: "Loudest - obviously Motörhead, too: Birmingham Odeon 1979 (Overkill tour: brilliant) and 1981 (Ace of Spades tour, not so great). I'm not sure whether my chronic hearing problems are a consequence ..."Forgive me for being thick Gordon but when you speak of auditory processing, do you mean you have trouble 'untangling' what someone says? I get that a lot. I have no problem hearing the voice, but making out what it's saying is sometimes a struggle to me; the odd utterance can come across as a bit of a mumble,
I always put it down to the gigs, the clubs and.... previous lifestyle choices maybe.
---or perhaps some folk deliberately mumble when they're dissing me? : )
What I mean, blastro, is that I can't separate foreground from background. So I can't hear what someone is saying to me if there are other people speaking at the same time or there is other non-random noise (like music). I don't have any kind of aphasia. If one person is speaking to me I don't have difficulty understanding them, unless they're incoherent. But as soon as two people are speaking, I'm lost. This is one of the (many) reasons why I don't socialise.
When my Mum was losing her hearing, we found that looking straight at her and speaking a little slower helped. It gave her time to process the words, as Blastro says. I have the same thing with French, my brain needs a time lag. I lose the thread very quickly after the first few words. We tried very hard to get people on the phone to slow down rather than shout but they didn't (or couldn't) get it, so in the end we would make a list of Mum's concerns and go for impersonation while she listened in. This dratted data protection is well meant but it causes anyone with hearing problems no end of trouble.
Ten Funnies...Borat
Shawn Of The Dead
Beetlejuice
Top Secret
Airplane
Blazing Saddles
Any Monty Python, take yer pick - anything they did that was feature length
Team America
Braindead
Raising Arizona *
A juvenile list? Possibly ... but I care not.
* Maybe should do a separate list for top Coen Bros flicks; RA the best imo but they've done so much top notch stuff...
Bugger! Did I already do a Top Ten Funnies? Can't be bothered to go back checking but if I did... I do apologize.
Oops, we got two Edgar Wright flicks up there. Gotta change that, it's against the 'One-Per' rule. There, done. How did I forget Beetlejuice??? Now I'm remembering a few more... A Fish Called Wanda, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Planes, Trains..., Something About Mary, Loaded Weapon... there's too bloody many for ten! First come first served I guess.
Hi Blastro how's it going? Decent list that is! The only one I strongly disagree with is Shaun Of The Dead. I don't know anyone who dislikes it but I think it's crap.
+ Dumb And DumberYoung Doctors In Love
Austin Powers
Anchorman
How ya doing Foe. Nah man I love SOTD. As I've aged, I don't watch the same films over n over like I did many years ago but there is still exceptions. We have the DVD but usually when it comes on TV I'll still watch... at least till the adds come on anyway. I'm a fan of 'The Cornetto Trilogy' full stop, especially the first two SOTD and Hot Fuzz. The World's End is a good film too but not quite up to the first two's standard - imo.
Hey, we're the only two posters on the forum who can agree (in a positive way) re The Jam; can't be expected to agree on much else! : )
Anchorman! Forgot about that one too, Post. Def deserves a mention; really funny film. Probably the best of Ferrel's flicks... which is saying something because he's done some good uns.
I'm not much of a cinemaphile at all, I hardly ever watch films but...Post Soviet wrote: "+ Dumb And Dumber
Young Doctors In Love
Austin Powers
Anchorman"
+ The Naked Gun
Blastronaut wrote: "Anchorman! Forgot about that one too, Post. Def deserves a mention; really funny film. Probably the best of Ferrel's flicks... which is saying something because he's done some good uns."
Not so keen on Anchorman but Blades Of Glory greatly amuses my teeny tiny brain.
Not watched all of 'Blades...' Helen, but what bits I have seen did look funny so not sure why I've not sat down and given it a proper viewing. Anchorman, for me, has so many laugh-out-loud moments... and not just with Ferrel but his co-stars too. Not least Steve Carell. Fair tickles me does Carell. Err, hold on a minute. Anchorman is Post's nod, he should be selling it! : )
I keep pondering over films which make me laugh and I'd like to add my votes for "The Court Jester" which has been a hit with me for 65 years! I love Mildred Natwick - her turn in "Barefoot in the Park" opposite Charles Boyer is an absolute hoot.
Don't believe I know that un Val. Will have to keep me eye out for that if it comes my way via TV/stream.
As threatened, some of the "things life has taught me."If it can go wrong, it will.
Silliness is good.
"Wireless" means there will be miles of power cable.
People who pride themselves on their sense of humour don't think other people have one (and usually don't really have one themselves).
Never buy a flat bottomed wash basin - you'll be splashed.
You always need one more battery than there are spares in the drawer.
Thermal gloves don't keep your hands warm.
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It's impossible to stop the dog gaining an extra patch when doing some glossingWhen something goes missing it won't turn up again until the day you've purchased its replacement
No such thing as a coincidence
Don't plan an outdoor activity a week or more in advance (unless it's fishing with a big brolly)
Don't put yer money on an English team in international sport
Mel Gibson's a ****
Isabella's is much the better but I gave it a go.Anyone else wanna add?
Blastronaut wrote: "It's impossible to stop the dog gaining an extra patch when doing some glossingWhen something goes missing it won't turn up again until the day you've purchased its replacement
No such thing as ..."
Some good ones there, (especially Mel Gibson).
As soon as you buy several tins of the cat's favourite food, it will change its mind 😾.
In a similar vein:As soon as you find a product you love, the manufacturer will discontinue it.
Val wrote: "In a similar vein:As soon as you find a product you love, the manufacturer will discontinue it."
... or ruin it by some un-needed and unwanted change.
Isabella wrote: "NEVER plant laurel."EVER!
Isabella wrote: "As soon as you buy several tins of the cat's favourite food, it will change its mind 😾."Oh yes, how v v true. Awkward buggers.
Tim wrote: "Val wrote: "In a similar vein:
As soon as you find a product you love, the manufacturer will discontinue it."
... or ruin it by some un-needed and unwanted change."
Yep. You just know when you see the words "new & improved recipe/product" that it's definitely not. :-(
Isabella wrote: "Isabella wrote: "NEVER plant laurel."EVER!"
EVER, EVER, EVER!! Even if it's the only option left - leave a bloody gap there!!!
As most food products increase in price, they decrease in size. Chocolate bars are a good example of this. Not to mention the fact that that's just the wrapper... "Straight outta Compton, a crazy..." sorry couldn't help that. No, the bar inside is two thirds the size of the Ice Cube.Don't I talk some sheeeit?
That was a rhetorical question. No need to answer that one.
Blastronaut wrote: "Isabella wrote: "Isabella wrote: "NEVER plant laurel."EVER!"
EVER, EVER, EVER!! Even if it's the only option left - leave a bloody gap there!!!"
It's a damn good gale-stopper tho. Kept the stuff at the back of house safe time n again, incl over the last few days. Credit where it's due n all that. Problem is it's not unstoppable in just that way. Get's everywhere... like the story (second one I think) in Creep Show where good old Steve King does a turn. The one about the meteor. Yeah that's laurel. Unstoppable.
Ha ha yeah that be the one Tech. That's an idea for a small list. Fave CS stories in order this time (obviously)...The Crate
Father's Day
The Lonesome Death Of Jordy Verril
Something To Tide You Over
They're Creeping Up On You
Never liked that last one, possibly due to the fact that I'm creepy-crawler-phobic.
Vaguely remember watching Creepshow 2 back in the day but don't recall much about it. Some kinda weird beast that devours swimmers in a lake or summat... that's about it. Don't remember the other stories at all.
....and a 'Creepshow 3! neither that or '2' were half as good. there's also 2 series of a netflix show, which i only discovered just now, so have no comment to make on it.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creepshow_(TV_s...
Didn't realize there was a No3... and neither did I know there was a Netflix show. And we have Netflix! Duh!!! Gonna have to have a look.Here's a good example of my thickness - I had to go to the Creepshow wiki to get the correct titles to three of the stories (I remembered 'The Crate' and 'Father's Day') and yet STILL didn't notice owt about other Creepshow stuff! Duuhh!!!!!!
Actually... I'd like to think of it as tunnel vision. Maybe like going straight at what I'm searching for with no time for owt else. A bit like the ex-cops/special forces/crooks that Jason Statham plays in just about every flick he ever made? Steven Segal? Chuck Norris??Err... no. On so many levels, NO!! : ) Keep yer tunnel vision.
tell me if it's any good. apparently the premise was that they were ignoring 'Creepshow' 2 and 3. so that's positive.
10cc 2 Feb 76
Thin Lizzy 4 November 76 and 23 November 77 (I was right at the front, regularly blinded by the reflection from Phil Lynott's mirrored scratchplate and some of the sweat that flicked off his afro landed on my face ...... eeeeeuuuugh!)
Rush 1 June 77 (their first date outside N. America, didn't know their stuff so bought cheapest upper circle tickets for £2-summat only to be told by a bouncer they hadn't sold enough tickets so everyone was to just pile in the stalls; start of a love affair)
Lynyrd Skynyrd 5 Feb 77 (I'm on this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HhFa.... Can you hear me; can you hear the band in fact on what must be one of the shittiest boots ever?)
Ted Nugent 24 Feb 77 (odious man but boy what a show)
The Jam Sheffield Top Rank 12 July 77 (Revolution Records shop owner told me they would be in his store the day after so I rocked up in school uniform to get my In The City signed and they were crapping it in case some 'real' punks might drop by(!); I think that was the only album I've ever had signed, artists are confused nowadays when I say no thanks, I don't want mine defacing!)
Stranglers Sheffield Top Rank 17 October 77 (I was right at the front but there was so much pushing from behind I just upped and sat cross-legged on the lowish stage right under Hugh Cornwell, bit worried as to where the gob went when he 'w***ed his throat. I'm convinced I can see the back of my head on the picture sleeve of Something Better Change - the Top Rank had this distinctive curious geodesic half-dome stage back)
AC/DC Sheffield Top Rank 21 May 78
Styx Sheffield Top Rank June 78 (opening line of Andy Gill review in NME "STYX, AS you'll doubtless be aware if you're familiar with the curious musical predilections of our American cousins, are a disgustingly successful five-piece band of little significance in any field save economics." - what did he know?!! They squeezed their whole stadium rig into a night club)
Tom Petty Manchester Apollo 3 March 1980 (one of very few gigs I went to at Uni)
Pink Floyd (The Wall) Earls Court August 1980 (I was dragged along by the g/f, didn't like the roger Waters whineathon that the album seemed to be but I'd never witnessed before nor since anything like that presentation; like punk'd never 'appened! I also nearly had an infarction when I was asked to pay a whole 50p for a can of Coke near Marble Arch; that were a week's wages oop north!)
Defunkt Sheffield Limit Club date unknown (81/2?)
By then I thought I'd seen it all and although I've enjoyed a huge number of gigs since then, not much left me gob-smacked like those did until;
Foo Fighters Nottingham Rock City 21 May 1997 (I was in Nott'm for a 3 day examiners' meeting so took a punt on the gig; awesome stuff)
ZZ Top Manchester Apollo 31 October 2002 - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/zz-top... (one of only a couple of UK dates, they had no new album to sell, no stage show to speak of, the support band looked like they'd just been dragged from a youth club, Billy Gibbons looked so small and skinny he might blow over if they turned a fan on him but they just rocked the place)
Father John Misty Leeds Brudenell 27 Feb 2015
Father John Misty Sheffield Plug 27 October 2015 - https://www.thevlm.co.uk/reviews/live... (it was the second time I'd seen him and I took a mate with me having raved about the first. He's a bit earnest and always wants your thoughts immediately afterwards so on the street outside I said, "Jon I know what you're going to ask me but I'm still trying to process what I've just seen." To which he replied without a breath, "Did you like him then?"!!!!!!)
David Byrne Leeds FD Arena 21 October 2018 - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/david-... (truly awesome staging, none of that players tied by cords to amps nonsense)