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message 1: by Jason (new)

Jason Oliver | 3045 comments I have recently read The Silver Linings Playbook, Paper Towns, and 1Q84 and in each of these books, other books are mentioned.

Do you find the desire to read a book that is mentioned in the book you are currently reading? Do you feel a bit excited or puffed up when a book is mentioned that you have already read? How do you feel when a book is mentioned that you have not read, and they spoil the book? Do you like when books are discusses within another book? Are you the type of person to reference books and literary characters or to draw a parallel to books in normal discussions?


message 2: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11675 comments Sometimes it makes me want to read the mentioned book. I suppose it depends on the topic and what's said about that book. Probably more so when I'm reading nonfiction, or historical fiction and want to check the facts.

I do enjoy it when I have already read a book that is mentioned, as well.


message 3: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) Do you find the desire to read a book that is mentioned in the book you are currently reading?

... All too often.

Do you feel a bit excited or puffed up when a book is mentioned that you have already read?

... Now that you mention it, yes. Kinda silly, I guess, but, yes, it's a bit of an ego boost.

How do you feel when a book is mentioned that you have not read, and they spoil the book?

... I'm not bothered by spoilers... if the book is only enjoyable for the ending, then I'd feel like I wasted by energy reading the beginning and middle.

Do you like when books are discusses within another book?

... Certainly. I get new insights into them, and into the minds of readers.

Are you the type of person to reference books and literary characters or to draw a parallel to books in normal discussions?

... Yes, I am. I don't get much of an opportunity to do so, but I have been known to. And I do enjoy it when other people do.


message 4: by JoLene (new)

JoLene (trvl2mtns) | 1532 comments Sometimes I do feel inspired —especially if a classic is mentioned that I feel like I should have read. It’s like an extra nudge.

I can’t remember anything being spoiled in another fiction book — I suppose that is more likely to happen in a non-fiction. I am planning to read The End of Your Life Book Club soon, and I would expect that there might be some risk for that.

I guess I do get a bit of ego boost when I’ve read a book that is mentioned, since I do identify myself as a reader.


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

All the time. In fact often I will become distracted by this and have to look the book up. Many times I will end up adding this mentioned book to my TBR list. I suppose this isn't such a bad thing.


message 6: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12056 comments Do you like when books are discusses within another book?
I enjoy when books are discussed within books . This was one of the reasons I lovedThe Investigation so much and Salvage the Bones.

It doesn't always inspire me to read the book mentioned. In Salvage the Bones< I thought I really need to know more about mythology, but that hasn't really inspired me to finally read some.


message 7: by Jgrace (new)

Jgrace | 3935 comments I love books that reference other books. I like characters who are readers. I like chapters that start with quotes from other books. I'm pleased when I recognize a quote, helps me understand the authors intent. Several authors have inspired me to read other books.Dorothy Sayers was probably the first. Her Lord Peter is forever dropping literary references and quotes into murder investigations.

I'm not ususally bothered by spoilers, but do not read Connie Will's To Say Nothing of the Dog if spoilers do worry you. She spoils Anna Karenina, The Woman in White, and several Agatha Christie novels. (Just sayin') It was a very fun book, and it made me read Three Men in a Boat: which was also a lot of fun.


message 8: by Jason (new)

Jason Oliver | 3045 comments Just to let yall know. Silver Linings Playbook spoils some classics if you've never read them.


message 9: by KateNZ (new)

KateNZ | 4099 comments I love Jasper Fforde’s “The Eyre Affair” and its sequels - books about books are fabulous :) I think you have to have read the original stories to get the most out of them, but they’d work if you only had a general idea of the story too


message 10: by Idit (new)

Idit | 1028 comments Jgrace wrote: "I love books that reference other books. I like characters who are readers. I like chapters that start with quotes from other books. I'm pleased when I recognize a quote, helps me understand the au..."

I agree - Three men in a boat IS a lot of fun!
(I didn't really like 'Doomsday book', so never tried 'To say nothing of the dog'


message 11: by Idit (new)

Idit | 1028 comments I love when books refer to books

If it's books I read before and I can appreciate the reference, it can easily add another layer of meaning, or just extra inside jokes for the 'initiated'.
It's an extra way to make connections with the book.... some shared past

If the characters / author recommend books, I'm always intrigued and research

If it feels to me like they reference some mythology I don't know or some old poetry - I google away. Today I got distracted searching online for some mythical creature that eats diamonds/gem stones just because of some vague sentence in a book, that felt to me like they were hinting for some outside meaning

I don't appreciate spoilers, because I'd rather not know too much about the books I'm going to read. but certain things I can forgive - Something like the ending of Anna Karenina is by now so famous, that I think it's ok to spoil (for a good reason). just in the same way that if you say that Moses broke the tablets, you are not really doing a spoiler.

A recent book reference experience I had was while reading the short stories collection The Thing Around Your Neck by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichi.
In one of the stories, few characters chat about african authors and I made sure to write down each an every one of them. They also mock Cry, the Beloved Country or maybe Alan Paton in general, and it made me push the book down my TBR

The last story in that book is a beautiful tribute to Things Fall Apart, which I happen to read earlier this year, and I was very chuffed with myself that I noticed that (and of course it enriched the experience of the short story)

I always see other books when I read books. anything small reminds me of something similar or opposing in another book


message 12: by Jgrace (new)

Jgrace | 3935 comments Idit wrote: "Jgrace wrote: "I love books that reference other books. I like characters who are readers. I like chapters that start with quotes from other books. I'm pleased when I recognize a quote, helps me un..."

To Say Nothing of the Dog is a lighter book than Doomsday Book . Much of the time it's just silly fun. But all of her time travel books are a bit annoying because the characters are constantly, obsessively doubting themselves and questioning their actions.


message 13: by Elise (new)

Elise (ellinou) I loved them all on my first read. But the second time I read them I got impatient way more quickly with the characters because I knew the answers to all the questions, so all their wasting time and torturing themselves with what-ifs ended up annoying me. Some books, it doesn't matter if you know the ending, but for this series it really does. Don't know if that's saying something about the writing and style of the books in general :/


message 14: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11675 comments Jgrace wrote: "I'm not ususally bothered by spoilers, but do not read Connie Will's To Say Nothing of the Dog if spoilers do worry you. She spoils Anna Karenina, The Woman in White, and several Agatha Christie novels. ..."

I really liked "To Say Nothing of the Dog". I will be reading "The Woman in White"... probably some time this year, but I remember nothing of what TSNOTD said of it, so I'm ok! :-)


message 15: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11675 comments Funny thing... just after reading this thread (well, Jason's first post to get the conversation going, anyway), I started a book in the afternoon. The main character is an author in within the first few pages, there were a number of books mentioned!


message 16: by Karin (new)

Karin | 9210 comments Jgrace wrote: "Idit wrote: "Jgrace wrote: "I love books that reference other books. I like characters who are readers. I like chapters that start with quotes from other books. I'm pleased when I recognize a quote..."

I've only read To Say Nothing of the Dog, but have the first book in that series here. I didn't love the first one, but liked it. Now I'm wondering if I will dislike this other one.


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