Biography, Autobiography, Memoir discussion

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message 201: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
With the proliferation of TV interviews being televised from someone's home, or at least that is what the back drop looks like, many times the interviewee is posing in front of their home library. Is there anyone besides me that is so busy checking out their books that they didnt catch what the person was saying?


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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments haha yes...online church meant several shots of pastor's office and it seems he enjoys crime novels...


message 203: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "haha yes...online church meant several shots of pastor's office and it seems he enjoys crime novels..."

That's hilarious!


message 204: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Hope all of you who celebrate Independence Day in the United States had a good holiday. I had a house full of visitors so have not been on Goodreads for a few days. Back to normal tomorrow.


message 205: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments How do you celebrate it Koren?
Just wondering.
We have Waitangi Day in NZ but there doesn't seem to be a special way of celebrating it. I wish we did things like have a hangi or bbq and maybe some fireworks and decorate our houses or something, but we don't.


message 206: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
We also call it 'The Fourth'. Most people celebrate with backyard barbeques and going to the lake or a picnic. People buy backyard fireworks and if you are lucky you live somewhere that has a large fireworks display.


message 207: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2008 comments Selina wrote: "How do you celebrate it Koren?
Just wondering.
We have Waitangi Day in NZ but there doesn't seem to be a special way of celebrating it. I wish we did things like have a hangi or bbq and maybe some ..."


Selina, what does hangi mean?

With all the talk of true crime at this group lately, this is how Los Angeles celebrated Independence Day this year after the city banned all fireworks:

https://youtu.be/tIvdcdogC6k


message 208: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Wow cool. Was that from people's backyards?

Hangi is a traditional earth oven way of cooking the Maori used. You dig a pit and cover everything with stones and earth to cook for several hours.

We do have fireworks but for Guy Fawkes day on November 5 and they are only allowed to be sold 2 weeks prior to people over 14. Sadly some people do abuse them, sky rockets and bangers were banned several years ago. People are encouraged to go and see public displays.

On New Years day and Diwali, and sometimes Chinese New Year there are also public fireworks displays.


message 209: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "Wow cool. Was that from people's backyards?

Hangi is a traditional earth oven way of cooking the Maori used. You dig a pit and cover everything with stones and earth to cook for several hours.

..."


I believe you are having winter right now, right? Arent you the opposite of the Americas? We had 90 degrees on 'the Fourth'. How cold do you get in the winter?


message 210: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Yes its winter, we have our Maori New Year aka Matariki so its just gone past the shortest day. It can get down to -5 degrees celsius (don't know what that is in Fahrenheit) but Auckland rarely gets snow.


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 222 comments Koren wrote: "With the proliferation of TV interviews being televised from someone's home, or at least that is what the back drop looks like, many times the interviewee is posing in front of their home library. ..."

HA HA at my last church session they advised us to 'be aware of what's behind us'.


message 212: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments You can have fake backgrounds like they do on the tv news. The reporter pretends to be at the scene of the action when really they have just superimposed the images on a green screen.


message 213: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "You can have fake backgrounds like they do on the tv news. The reporter pretends to be at the scene of the action when really they have just superimposed the images on a green screen."

True, but I still want to see what books are behind them.


message 214: by Karin (last edited Jul 07, 2020 06:45PM) (new)

Karin | 788 comments Selina wrote: "Wow cool. Was that from people's backyards?

Hangi is a traditional earth oven way of cooking the Maori used. You dig a pit and cover everything with stones and earth to cook for several hours.

..."


I think it's interesting that Kiwis celebrate Guy Fawkes Day, but Canadians don't. I can understand why Americans don't celebrate it, though. But I am an expat, so live in the States (because I married an American and he didn't want to move that far from his mother--we don't live too close, about a 4 and a half hour drive).

There the churches I know have been livestreaming from the actual building but with very few people there, so we haven't been able to peruse any bookshelves. That would be distracting! Now churches here can be open with social distancing, masks and no more than at 40 percent capacity. Rows are roped off, etc, etc.


message 215: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Do Canadians have Pancake Day?


message 216: by Karin (new)

Karin | 788 comments Selina wrote: "Do Canadians have Pancake Day?"

I don't remember ever having one, but it's a very large country and it's possible some area just might or that it's started since I got married and moved to the States. After all, there wasn't even a territory called Nunavit yet, and it's been around 21 years this year.


message 217: by Lady ♥ Belleza (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 222 comments Koren wrote: "True, but I still want to see what books are behind them."

You can probably guess what books are behind me.


message 218: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments I have created a book quiz just for us...

https://www.goodreads.com/quizzes/113...

I challenge you!


message 219: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1668 comments I got 6 right! I thought Memoirs of A Geisha was fictional. Still was a great read!


message 220: by Koren (last edited Aug 16, 2020 07:34PM) (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "I have created a book quiz just for us...

https://www.goodreads.com/quizzes/113...

I challenge you!"


That was fun! And hard! I only got 6 out of 10. I have never seen where we can make a quiz. Hope you make more quizzes.


message 221: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments You can make a quiz here https://www.goodreads.com/quizzes/new

hmm I will see if I can make another one...*racks brains*


message 222: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments wonder if this will work...


Goodreads Quiz


Bio, Memoir and Autobiography Quiz take 2


taken
1 time


10 questions




message 223: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1668 comments Selina wrote: "wonder if this will work...


Goodreads Quiz


I didn't do very well on this one but it was fun!



message 224: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "wonder if this will work...


Goodreads Quiz


Bio, Memoir and Autobiography Quiz take 2


taken
1 time


10 questions


take quiz
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Thanks. I will try to create one sometime. It wont be this week. I got 6 out of 10 again on the second quiz. Fun! Selina, next time if you would like to start a new discussion thread it will be easier to find.


message 225: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Koren wrote: "Selina wrote: "wonder if this will work...


Goodreads Quiz


Bio, Memoir and Autobiography Quiz take 2


taken
1 time


10 questions


take quiz
"

Thanks. I will try to create one sometime. It wo..."


I couldn't figure out how to make another thread Koren it seemed like Goodreads was blocking me if I didn't choose a specific book to discuss.


message 226: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments You can hopefully find all the quizzes I've created on this link.
Goodreads doesn't make them that easy to find or share.

https://www.goodreads.com/quizzes/by_...


message 227: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2008 comments I was surprised to get a thumbs up from Christian Picciolini for my review of his memoir, White American Youth: My Descent into America's Most Violent Hate Movement—and How I Got Out. Decided to "follow" him.


message 228: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments I'm a bit slack with posting my reviews but I do try and post them for books that don't have very many reviews on Goodreads.


message 229: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
The United States of America has a new president and our first ever female vice president!


message 230: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Koren wrote: "The United States of America has a new president and our first ever female vice president!"

wow I heard it from you first Koren!


message 231: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Selina wrote: "Koren wrote: "The United States of America has a new president and our first ever female vice president!"

wow I heard it from you first Koren!"


I posted it as soon as I heard about it


message 232: by Karin (new)

Karin | 788 comments I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published three years posthumously and was originally a dissertation. I have no idea how I'll rate it, because it's not fair to expect it to read more like a layperson's novel or literary nonfiction when that wasn't how it was written, but some parts are just so very boring. I'm not talking so much about the musical discussions where it gets into stuff it helps to know about classical music for (or just general music, even, but some of it is very much the classical tradition even if it is mixed with other things).

This isn't the first time I have felt mixed about it--where the person being written about is amazing and I think everyone should know about them and so should read the book, but where I am not in love with the writing (and people can always skip those sections). Is this just me, or have any of you also felt this way?


message 233: by Selina (last edited Nov 17, 2020 11:18PM) (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Karin wrote: "I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published three years posthumously and ..."

Yes, a few times. I thought a bio on Roald Dahl was a bit boring, which is crazy because he's such a brilliant writer and interesting personality, but the biographer just got so bogged down in details that he was missing the wood for the trees.

If it's someone's first book sometimes you can excuse it and hope they may do better next time. Also some biographies can verge on fan-fic and don't really give an objective view of the person.

Academic treatises are never really meant for general readers anyway. In academia, you are expected to follow up on every footnote in the biography, and have read or referenced all the books or in the bibliography. Most of them end up regurgitating what's already been written somewhere else, and just put it all in a timeline. It's a bit lazy.


message 234: by Julie (new)

Julie (julielill) | 1668 comments Karin wrote: "I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published three years posthumously and ..."

I too felt like if I started a book I should finish reading it. But now, I would just chuck it and go on to the next book. Too many books, too little time!


message 235: by Karin (last edited Nov 18, 2020 10:31AM) (new)

Karin | 788 comments Thanks. I ended up giving it 4 stars because I decided that in this case I really want people to learn about this amazing composer, and the author (it turns out, I read at the end, and this is one of the things I dislike about Kindle because I have an older one and can't just go to any page I like) that she was working on it as a book but died first, etc, etc. There is nothing bad about the writing, and I think part of the problem is that, for me, not all books are good on Kindle.


message 236: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Karin wrote: "I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published three years posthumously and ..."

I have seen that many times when reading about a movie star or musician and they spend way too much time talking about individual movies or songs.


message 237: by Karin (last edited Nov 20, 2020 11:47AM) (new)

Karin | 788 comments Koren wrote: "Karin wrote: "I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published three years pos..."

Right. In this case, the author was a musicology professor, which was her major when she found the first scores at Yale, so I guess she didn't know how to write for a general audience.

I am mostly interested in promoting great music by women composers and ought to start listening to Clara Schumann's music--here is one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsPEM... - this concert pianist (her brother played the cello at Megan Markle's royal wedding to Harry) travels the world performing Clara Schuann's works, plus Mahler' wife composed. I am not fond of a lot of the kinds of things that came out in the latter part of the 20th century and on (I have had to sit through this in my son's concerts, plus of course my cousin was a composition major doing a grad degree while I was doing a non-Music Bachelor's), but that school did avante garde which is even harder to get through, and he was the only student who was world class level and it's too bad he didn't go for writing music accessible to audiences).


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Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Here's wishing a turn of the calendar page will bring a much better year!


message 239: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2008 comments Hear here!


message 240: by Selina (new)

Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Koren wrote: "Karin wrote: "I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published three years pos..."

But if it's by Dolly Parton, who does write her own brilliant songs, and lyrics, its forgiveable.


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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments btw Happy 2021!

Customer came to the shop and complained the large print calendar he bought for 2021 still had 2020 inside. We checked and sure enough all of them had 2020. Had to pull them all off the shelves!

What a gyp! Nobody wants to relive that year again lol.


message 242: by Karin (new)

Karin | 788 comments Selina wrote: "Koren wrote: "Karin wrote: "I am in a conundrum. I am reading a biography about a brilliant but, for a long time largely forgotten, composer. Her music is lovely, but this biography was published t..."

I am not a huge Dolly Parton fan, but she has written some great songs, such as Jolene. Love that song! I particularly love it sung by The Petersens, but also how Dolly sings it. It's ironic that Jolene wasn't even a real threat, but she wrote a brilliant song that millions can relate to out if the situation.


message 243: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 2008 comments Today, January 17th, 2021 is Betty White's 99th birthday. She has been in show business for 80 years, the longest career in the industry ever.


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Fishface | 2008 comments Selina wrote: "btw Happy 2021!

Customer came to the shop and complained the large print calendar he bought for 2021 still had 2020 inside. We checked and sure enough all of them had 2020. Had to pull them all of..."


But what a creepy souvenir.


message 245: by Karin (last edited Jan 19, 2021 04:56PM) (new)

Karin | 788 comments Fishface wrote: "Today, January 17th, 2021 is Betty White's 99th birthday. She has been in show business for 80 years, the longest career in the industry ever."

I'll bet--certainly in recorded entertainment history that I know of. It would be hard to match this for anyone.


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Selina (literatelibrarian) | 3104 comments Wow the Golden Girl.
Cliff Richard has written another memoir. Debating whether to put on my list. I've read some previous ones where he wrote about his faith.

The Dreamer: An Autobiography. He must be getting on a bit.


message 247: by Koren (last edited Feb 05, 2021 09:29AM) (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Putting this out there to see if someone knows the answer. I am reading a book called The Great Book of Rock Trivia: Amazing Trivia, Fun Facts and The History Of Rock And Roll by Bill O'Neill. I can't find it on Goodreads. Here is the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Book-Roc...

There are two other books on Goodreads that have the same title but different authors and they are not the same book. The book I added to my profile page here is not the right book but I added it so I could keep my Goodreads count accurate. Any ideas?


message 248: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
I was able to figure out the problem from another group. There is something that isn't working in the 'search' feature both at the top of the page and in the 'add book/author feature. If you search using the ISBN number you can find the book you are looking for.


message 249: by Karin (last edited Feb 05, 2021 02:25PM) (new)

Karin | 788 comments Koren wrote: "I was able to figure out the problem from another group. There is something that isn't working in the 'search' feature both at the top of the page and in the 'add book/author feature. If you search..."

Yes, the add book/author has not been working well even with exact title, etc. This started yesterday, but if you search via a search engine you can probably find it that way and mark it read. I have been doing this today, and have done it in the past if I don't remember a title correctly. This is good if you are looking for a book that doesn't have an ISBN number because it was published before they were given, etc.


message 250: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 3962 comments Mod
Hoping none of you are enduring the crazy weather they are having in the southern states. Strangely, Texas is getting ice, snow and wind but all we have in Minnesota is 20 below zero. Our cold spell has broken and the weatherman is saying we will at least be above zero.


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