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Wait, what’s a hunter? I don’t have time to reread all the books.
That’s what I saw!?!? Like, the form of one and everything, I wonder? Because she stabbed that one with her left hand, I believe
And what did it mean about Ryodan being gone for 2 years!?!? Any sexy times?!?!?
Remember a hunter can kill the nine. Maybe that's why Ryodan left for 2 yrs trying to figure out a way to reverse it.
Oh, that’s what I thought. But then I thought the hunters were like big dragon things.
They are, that's the part that got me puzzled. Maybe she can turn into a hunter.
Hmm, hopefully someone will have read it by the weekend and give feedback, real feedback.
Right!?!? That’s what I was saying about form. We’ve never seen or heard of them changing form. She said it was more of a love story than she’s written in a long time. I had high hopes for Dani and Ryodan.
This hunter part has potential. I like a good spoiler if it makes the book more worthy of purchase. I hope KMM finished Danis story well.
I hope so too. I’ve been very disappointed in the books after Iced. I didn’t even read the last one even though I bought it.
I feel like there isn’t much out there about this book, compared to other books right before the release. I wonder why.
Just finished! I can confirm the Hunter spoiler. At first I was freaking out but it came out ok. And Ryodan is THE MAN!!! He give her what Barrons never gave Mac. Words and deeds. He broke my heart. That two years was a huge sacrfice with a good reason. But I need more! There was no info on what she is writing next.
You all will flip on the shazam secret. Lol And yes some sexy times but not near enough. If no more books for them my irritation with Mac taking up more books before this ill be at a 1000%
Denisa wrote: "Can you elaborate a bit further?"The black in her hand comes back and she gets a very powerful power from it. The more she uses it the more the blackness spreads. Then she's unable to touch anyone. Remember how the tatoos conveys emotion? Well Ryodan can't handle when she is with anyone so has barrons lock him in the same cage his son was in so he wont kill anyone she's with. Did that after he did kill the first guy after Dancer. Killed 3 of the nine when guarding him too. He starved for 2 years!
Slaying me! I can’t wait!?!? Are you happy with the ending?
I think so yes. They are happy at least. But I just want more. Had some sexy times but towards the end. We've waited so long for them it just seemed rushed a little. Mac got how many books!? :(
Wow, Ryodan! That’s hardcore. So, he and Dani ended up together? How many stars do you give it?
So far I'm loving the book. Ryo still my heart.
I'm torn on how many stars to give it. I loved the book but was disappointed on a couple things. But over all itwas great.
I've only read a couple of chapters, (i totally broke down for purchase). But so far I feel like Dani's personality much more her normal personality compared to Jada which is totally fine by me.
Shazam sent Ryodan the message when he was on the beach. That Dani was the woman for him.
Just finished the book and KMM redeemed herself with Dani's story. Ryodan waited for Dani for over 3 thousand years. Wait, was Dani actually born or is Shazam actually her mother?
One last thing, I love this book! Ryodan/Dani to me is far better than Barrons and Mac. Ryodan is the man.
Veronica wrote: "One last thing, I love this book! Ryodan/Dani to me is far better than Barrons and Mac. Ryodan is the man."Yes! Which is why I'm still ticked they got jipped with books.
KMM needs to write more books about them. We got what 9 books on Barrons and Mac.
Veronica wrote: "KMM needs to write more books about them. We got what 9 books on Barrons and Mac."Couldn't agree more. But I read that KMM said this finished Dani's arch. Some arch. -_-
Hi ladies! I'm glad I found this thread :)I actually loved the book. And Ryodan... I mean can he be real and come to my doorstep please lol
I agree about Mac and Barrons having 8 books about them. It is not fair at all. I would love to see more of this sexual tension between Ryo and Dani tbh.
And one thing I really love about Ryo, he owned his relationship and feelings in a way Barrons never did. He always wanted best for Dani, he never insulted her, while Barrons always talkes about how stupid Mac is (which she is btw, she is getting my nerves too)
And the best part of the book was, there was no Mac lol. I really can't stand her bimbo attitude anymore, so I was glad that she wasn't around.
Shazam's secret got me surprised, I never expected something like that and found it a little forced actually. But it didn't bothered me much.
And I remember KMM's contract. She signed for the book #11 too guys. So we will definitely get another book, lets just hope Mac stays wherever she is now till the end of that book :D
Thanks ladies. I will definitely buy it this weekend.
I just bought I. I'm supposed to receive it on Thursday.
Sbcurious wrote: "Veronica wrote: "KMM needs to write more books about them. We got what 9 books on Barrons and Mac."Couldn't agree more. But I read that KMM said this finished Dani's arch. Some arch. -_-"
Me three. As a long time Dani and Ryo fan, I wish the expectation management about this book hadn't sounded so final. It definitely doesn't feel like the end of Dani's story arch. She's gone through this huge transformation, and we know there's a war coming between man and Fae. I just hope the focus of the next book will share the screen time more equally between M&B and D&R as they battle to save the world.
ETA: Also, KMM said she wrote a cliffhanger ending for HiVo but chose to omit it. I hope she will share it at some point, as the current ending felt a bit flat.
A warning before I start-seriously big spoilers here so if you don't want the novel to be completely spoiled for you-make sure you skip this one!HiVo seems to have delivered exactly what KMM promised: namely, the denouement of Ryo and Dani's relationship; so why do I feel so empty about this book? Prior to release there had been plenty of clues that KMM intended to follow up on Dani's black hand, and her evolution into the Hunter was an enjoyable plot line, even if it was a bit of a Mary Sue-especially with respect to her defeat of the Fae and the main villain, both of which seemed to take ridiculously little effort to kill and involve little (if any) personal cost to Dani herself. Dani's sensual awakening, and her eventual rapprochement with Ryodan, were a given, especially considering KMM's pre-release advice that this was essentially Dani and Ryo's HEA. I suspect that critics of 'Saint Ryodan' may find much to condemn about this book, despite the fact that the important love scenes between Ryo and Dani are handled deftly. I must admit that I did find the 'sex by remote' scenes a little hard to take, but then I have never been a huge fan of PNR and D&R's 'connection' through the reciprocal tattoos was jumping well off the cliff of UF and spelunking dangerously close to PNR territory for my taste. I was hoping for a more enigmatic, raw and unapologetic Ryodan than we got, but to be fair to KMM, Ryodan has always been the more open/human of the two brothers; something that I have previously admired about him, so I really can't complain that he stayed true to his character in the end. What intrigues me most about this book is KMM's claim that from reading the book, it should be immediately evident that there is more story to tell. I am really struggling to work out what that might be. Sure, Christian is still without a HEA, and Kat is trying to rescue Sean from a bad place psychologically speaking, but I can honestly say that I am not particularly invested in either of their stories, although a war with the Fae would be a welcome intrigue if it was pursued at a character level. Kat intrigued me briefly in the previous novel, but she comes across as a little bland and uninteresting in this book, a bit like she was pre-Ryodan's intervention. So, where to from here? Personally, I would be more interested in hearing about how Mac manages to control the sedition in the Faerie court and get a handle on her faerie lore than I would be hearing about how Dani sublimates to become an all-knowing Hunter, sailing through starry skies forever. There is one great observation that Dani makes: namely that Mac will need to learn to be cruel if she is to maintain hold of the Faerie court, and accordingly, the question of what that might (eventually) do to her humanity (or what is left of it). This, to me, is a far more interesting conundrum than how many more naughty faerie Dani can kill as a big bad Hunter. It would be especially interesting to see how Mac and Barrons handle the change to their relationship-given their recent separation in HiVo and the changes Mac will need to make to stay in charge. I loved the quote about how Barrons opened the door to where Mac is learning her powers and the temporal clash 'nearly killed him': proof that Mac is still evolving. I hope we see more of this in the next book.
I was in awe till the end, we need answers! Like is the hunter/ shazam her birth mother? We need other book to see how ryo handles when she leaves after that week they had together. How the guys react to how Dani is hunter and hen she comes upstairs with ryo and they are all lovely dove. so much questions. How the abbey handles Dani change.
Yes. She created Dani’s Hunter form so in that sense she is her birth mother.
I've seen several review where people didn't like the book.. I loved it. Sure I had a few issues but Ryodan has always been the more human and I think the poor man is allowed all the emotions and feels in the world since he's been tormented waiting on her for over 3000 years. lol I love that he was so open with her, unlike Barrons. That always drove me crazy.
About 40 percent in, Ive go a lot of split feelings so far. Better in ways yet lots of issues. especially in the Ryodan department, these cheesy song metaphors are 'puke-a-riffic'. lolAlso I totally feel the constant mention of Mac being gone, is literally a red flag of don't worry she and and barons will be back in a huge way next book. Thats my perception.
And I HATED their first interaction after 2 years apart. Seemed so out of context at Chesters. And just again really cheesy.
June wrote: "Also I totally feel the constant mention of Mac being gone, is literally a red flag of don't worry she and and barons will be back in a huge way next book. Thats my perception."oh no, I think you are right :(
Heads up, this is going to be long and not very nice. Sorry if my opinions hurt anyone. That is not my intentions. I just love these characters so much and I really have needed to talk about how I feel. I wanted to cry when I finished this book. And not happy tears. The author couldn't have hurt me more if she had literally killed the characters from the story. I felt like that's what she did in many ways. They are no longer who I thought they were, and though a lot of people who loved the story defend the changes that D&R have been through by saying they evolved, I just don't care for it. I don't mind that they had to evolve. Evolve away. But why did they have to evolve into such boring things? They didn't evolve, what happened is that they devolved. They became basic when they were so epic. They became my everyday next door neighbors when one of them had every reason to be a ruthless leader after living thousands of fucking years and seeing horrible shit, and the other was once a deadly child.
If KMM knew that Ryodan was much better and more interesting when he was a mystery, then for fuck's sake...leave him that way and plow through with the plot and the events as they unfold. I don't know what to do or think of a Ryodan that stoops to talking about TV shows as if he spends his day thinking, yea this seems like an awesome use of my time.
Discussing Sherlock Holmes is what I do with my friends, not what a 10,000 year old man does with a 22 year old. And if he's going to do it, can he do it in a way that isn't so trite, so plebeian, so unoriginal?
You know, if this mushy, angsty, pop culture equipped man with bland come backs is what all the NINE are underneath...I don't want to know any more about them. And I don't want to know what the Tribunal is or how they came to be. It will probably end up as boring and badly written as Ryodan's backstory about when he was a child.
Another thing, I understand that Dani deserved words of love and endearment. I do. But I think the most important thing you can do in life when you have been deprived, is to learn to stop vying for the things that were kept from you. Like wanting to belong. Learn to be ok with not belonging. Or learn to belong in your own way. Stop begging to be loved and accepted. Stop needing to be told that you are amazing. Destroy the need for those things and live without having them, so that they no longer hold you back. That's how you overpower the people that kept you down and how you fly (to quote KMM). Otherwise you'll keep being vulnerable and in my mind, having Dani overcome this vulnerability ON HER OWN would have been a better way of growing and evolving her. I personally hated that Ryodan had to explain (more like preach) all her weaknesses to her and shine a light on everything and convince her to open HER FUCKING BOXES. She needed to do that on her own, to prove that she had really healed and grown up. You have to let others make their own way, you can' drag them. <---(ugh, I really needed to get those thoughts out).
That was one of the positive aspects of Mac and Barron's relationship. He didn't tell her how to feel, and when she wanted answers he gave her questions that helped her continue exploring. Even though that was infuriating, it was the right thing to do. Ryodan did that some on ICED and that's why that book rocked!
The way this story arc has been told will forever be the biggest injustice done to D&R. After ICED they've been treated like their story is a drag that need to get over with. I miss the courage KMM had with books 1-5 where she said over and over that this story will not conform to anything and I don't care what you want. I feel like she couldn't do it any more and was like, Yea, sure these are not the type of characters that would ever have a typical romance in any time, dimension, or world...but let's make them conform to it anyway! Because...I don't know. It's like her goal is how much of her work can fit in a Quotable Quotes post that people can put as their background photo on their Facebook page.
Fever world was a great story because it was both character driven and plot driven. The books in the first arc were a gargantuan (another fave KMM word), untamed, unapologetic mix of romantic, fantastical, philosophical, and psychological stimulation. They were disguised in hot guy covers and tucked away in the romance aisle. It was one of the most ironic, beautiful thing I've come across in my life. But now, the covers are beautiful and titillating, the plot in the background is still razor, but we have skeletons for main characters and an execution of those idea bloated with uncertainty from the author.
To end on a positive note...the whole Pi thing did touch my heart a good amount.
FinishedGlad its over. Better than the previous couple of books but it was very incongruent I felt with previous storylines. Becoming a hunter did not bother me but calling her stardust sounded so fake and I'm pretty positive we never heard it before so that entire storyline felt really forced and non genuine.
Best part of the book, cannot believe I'm saying this--the Barrons meet. But that part was such an obvious declaration that Mac is back and has to save the day next book. Their storyline NEVER ends. And these books need to end.
The big Baddie this book was so unoriginal and lacked even a smidgen of real threat.
So I guess I should just let you guys know, Karen and her fans have been personally attacking people over critical reviews. Yes, even Karen herself. If you look into the facebook high voltage spoilers group she's egging on her fans to go after people on goodreads. Maybe some of you guys support that on there, I don't know. But I think most of you know me, I'm not some hater I was a huge fan that was simply disappointed with this book. Karen tried to personally attack me on facebook herself, commenting on a reviewer changing their name overnight after I changed my name in order to protect myself from her crazy fans who have since said "I better go into witness protection" for leaving my review. She's one hundred percent encouraging them to sniff me out like I'm a troll.
In my review I said I was so sad and disappointed when I read it bc I wanted to love it. I even said I respect her as an author and had no desire to bash her. She even commented on THAT and said people are saying "I love her! don't bash me! in order to go on the offensive". Well, she doesn't have to worry about me ever saying I respect her ever again. I specifically even told people in the comments to read it for themselves and make up their own mind.
Karen and her fans think they can bully people, even posting screenshots of people's reviews with their name included. She has done nothing to stop this behavior. So beware with your reviews if they are anything less than glowing.
SHOOKITHA JONES wrote: "So I guess I should just let you guys know, Karen and her fans have been personally attacking people over critical reviews. Yes, even Karen herself. If you look into the facebook high voltage spoil..."Sorry. Its a book review not to be taken quite so seriously. You even encouraged me to buy the book and make my opinion. Personally I can't see how anyone would be upset. We all like different things at different times, maybe the book is great to some but that doesn't have to be the opinion of everyone. I hope you don't experience or anyone else experiences any bullying, thats outrageously childish.
peace
SHOOKITHA JONES wrote: "So I guess I should just let you guys know, Karen and her fans have been personally attacking people over critical reviews. Yes, even Karen herself. If you look into the facebook high voltage spoil..."Shit just got real. I've been watching this situation unfold for some hours now on fb with increasing disquiet, and I saw those comments you refer to both from other fans and from KMM before I came here. Your post just made me connect the two.
I'm deeply sorry this happened to you. I read your review, and I liked and agreed with it. I think I was able to detect your previous user name correctly, and know for a fact that you've been one of staunchest Dani fans throughout the years, living with the story, getting excited about new releases and bringing that excitement to this board as well.
I can understand and agree with criticism towards the ridiculous early ratings which people here at GR give before the actual book is even out, but when the author and other factions of the fandom start attacking a reviewer that both read the books and stated their views and arguments clearly, that crosses a line that they have no right to cross. A fandom that allows only one point of view to be correct is at best cencorship, and at worst totalitarianism.
SHOOKITHA JONES wrote: "So I guess I should just let you guys know, Karen and her fans have been personally attacking people over critical reviews. Yes, even Karen herself. If you look into the facebook high voltage spoil..."I have been watching the FS group as well and is getting scary.
Your review was not rude or the works of a hater! We have always loved Dani and talked about It and frankly I was let down by HV as well.
I'm sorry about what is going on Facebook page!
Honestly, I was waiting for KMM to break the fights out and clear the air...
SHOOKITHA JONES wrote: "So I guess I should just let you guys know, Karen and her fans have been personally attacking people over critical reviews. Yes, even Karen herself. If you look into the facebook high voltage spoil..."Yea, saw that and heaved a big sigh. I'm so sorry it is happening to you. I loved your review because you were constructive and specific about what you didn't like and why it didn't work for you. Like Emily I have also loved your enthusiasm about Dani over the course of this series. I used to really dislike Dani and reading you fight for her awesomeness is one of the things that got me to consider that character differently. It's clear that KMM is happy with the flimsy bar that her other readers have set for her work. You are not wrong or should be persecuted for setting high expectations for KMM. Even as a romance this book is hard to read and not well executed.
Anyway, no matter how much KMM insists she flies her own ship and does what she wants to do, there is more than enough evidence that she just conforms to what her core romance loving readers want out of a novel. I don't know if anyone remembers that teaser she put out about a man talking about Dani from afar, how she is a vigilante, and burns through men's beds or something like that, like sleeping with them and leaving them longing after her. And the guy watching over her says he needed a full pardon or something.
Where was that part in the book? When KMM posted it, so many of her readers were in an uproar even though that was such a bold scene. Everyone was pissed that she was sleeping around and KMM had to address it. And I guess she continued addressing it by not including it in the book. Instead we get a scene with Ryodan giving her a lecture about not having one night stand and whatnot... It made me really suspicious that the scene that was teased was not included, but another one that talked about one night stands was placed in there.
It makes me think that KMM doesn't really write what she wants to write. She writes to please her fan base and then uses them to criticize people like you who wanted a story that was true to the characters and did justice to them.
I guess the next few books will tell what her intentions are with this story. If she means for it to be great or if she means for it to simply be liked by her hardcore fan base.
Once again really sorry this is happening to you. You have the right to criticize KMM whether on GR or Facebook. There was no contract that she would be nice to her fans and give them a book and we all had to like it. If Dani was here she would say that kind of thinking is ILLOGICAL. You weren't being mean or scathing. Just critical, which if she can't handle it's her own problem.
