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That's a great description! I'm "re-reading" this in the audio version (having read it a long time ago) and I'd forgotten how fast that went by - I had to replay it to make sure I hadn't missed something!

I'd hardly call the monster the hero - he is the only character with a body count, after all. But I will admit that he does have a sympathetic background, and he's the main driving force of the novel.
I read this back in junior year of high school for AP English, and I can't remember if I was really surprised or not at how different it was from the pop-culture version. However, I will say that it was one of the few books I had to read for that class that I enjoyed.

I don't think we'd call him heroic, but he's (and Victor too) definitely a Byronic hero, at least in his original context.

I don't think we'd call him heroic, but he's (and Victor too) definitely a Byronic hero..."
“It’s a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn’t it Byronic don’t you think?
It’s like raaiiinnn on your creation day...”
Byronic heroes were all the rage when Shelley wrote Frank, so yeah.

I remember reading Dracula as a young dude, and the pop culture caricature didn't compare to the version that Bram Stoker produced. Especially now with Twilight and urban fantasy.
Bruce wrote: "I remember reading Dracula as a young dude, and the pop culture caricature didn't compare to the version that Bram Stoker produced. Especially now with Twilight and urban fantasy. "
The Count from Sesame Street is more culturally comparable to Dracula than Twilight is.
The Count from Sesame Street is more culturally comparable to Dracula than Twilight is.

Sad, but true.

Byron himself was all the rage - he was one of the party who challenged each other to see who could write the best horror novel, which is when she got the idea.

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I think Twilight’s main vamp is pretty close to Dracula. They can both walk in daylight and they’re both old guys creeping on young girls.
A lot of the stuff we commonly associate with vampires actually comes from the silent movie Nosferatu, which was much more visually appealing by virtue of the medium.



They’re not very good, particularly cinematically, but fairly accurate.

I agree, but I haven’t seen too much material to compare.


No, the TV ones are older. 1970s and 80s.

I think the biggest reason for the difference is that the book, as it is, just isn't very cinematic. The closest attempts to film the book as is have been dreadful, because it really is a story that works best on paper, a slow discovery of who this creature is, and what motivates him. That just doesn't translate to a visual media.

Don't forget the Three Sisters-- stoker's vamps that sparkle!

Fun fact: We all know that Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein after Lord Byron proposed a ghost story contest while she and Percy were staying with him. Byron and Percy ultimately flaked out on the contest, but there was a fourth participant, Byron's personal physician, Dr. Polidori. Polidori's novella The Vampyre is a parody of Lord Byron as a vampiric gentleman, and set the model for subsequent vampires in English and French literature.
There's a company called Black Coat Press which has been translating French horror novels, including a whole series of Polidori immitations, though my favorite is Paul Feval's Vampire City, in which vamps are actually robot puppets.


The 1973 film was my first exposure to the story, which my babysitter let me stay up to watch while my parents went bowling. (Benefits of having a teenage guy as your sitter.)
Last week Den of Geek did an interesting article about Son of Frankenstein, which is the film Mel Brooks parodied with Young Frankenstein.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/so...

Sean, I do not know if ever before I have read a goodreads comment which has filled me with such sheer joy

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I was mostly surprised as to how quickly the actual experiment was over. It felt like "And then everything worked and holy sh*t, what a monster, f*ck it, dude, I'm outta here". I was prepared for a detailed description and a lot of building up what I thought was one of the most important scenes of the book and then it was over so fast.
All in all there were a lot of things that were different than I expected and that made me realize how present the Frankenstein story is in modern culture, but at the same time how widely it diverges from the actual book.
Anyone else had similar (or completely different) thoughts while reading the book? Were you aware of what the story was before or what were the things that surprised you about the original story?