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Great first line, great opening, funny & sly in so many ways. Man, I really dig Parker.
Another line I appreciated: "We both grew up silently ashamed of our fathers (his father Ossun was the laziest man on the estate; mine--well) and we're both quietly disappointed with our children."
Parker often portrays medieval attitudes in their full oddity or brutality while still making them seem relatable or flirts with anachronism by addressing modern perspectives in a way that highlights the humanity of historical figures.

Re the ending: (view spoiler)

I liked how the dragon is treated as s fully natural creature, with a presumed taxonomy (even if the characters don't think about it in quite those terms)
Hillary wrote: "Parker often portrays medieval attitudes in their full oddity or brutality while still making them seem relatable or flirts with anachronism by addressing modern perspectives in a way that highlights the humanity of historical figures.."
That's a great observation. Parker's wry narrations have a slightly modern take on his faux-medieval alternate world.
" I’m guessing the lizards who actually do the fire-starting are resentful younger sons. Tell you about my brother in a minute.)"
In this case our aging knight/narrator (Dodinas le Cure Hardy) has an engaging cynicism mixed with fatigue. Like me in the mornings. :)
That's a great observation. Parker's wry narrations have a slightly modern take on his faux-medieval alternate world.
" I’m guessing the lizards who actually do the fire-starting are resentful younger sons. Tell you about my brother in a minute.)"
In this case our aging knight/narrator (Dodinas le Cure Hardy) has an engaging cynicism mixed with fatigue. Like me in the mornings. :)

That being said, a story of a medieval knight slaying a dragon is inherently capped at around three stars.


It sounds like we had a similar response, though I didn't find the cynicism quite as tiring (and rounded up) to account for the 2 star difference. It was pretty forgettable - mild amusement for a short while, but this short story just felt like a bare sketch whereas I've read plenty that really flesh everything out despite not being longer.

This was my favorite line: "He’s a good huntsman, Marhouse. Come the end of the season, he always knows exactly where all the game we’ve failed to find must be holed up."
Randy wrote: " I think I'll read more by this guy...."
If you want to read more of his short stories, many are available on-line (free) in various on-line magazines. I linked to sources for several in our discussion of Parker's Academic Exercises collection.
Many of Parker's short stories seem set in the same alternate world as this story, but apparently at different times, though Parker hasn't explicitly said so.
Of the stories listed at the topic above, I recommend "The Sun & I" for a fun origin of the "Invincible Sun" religion, one of whose Brothers seems referred to in this story. His "Let Maps to Others" and "A Small Price to Pay for Birdsong" are excellent and each won World Fantasy Awards (2012 & 2013).
If you want to read more of his short stories, many are available on-line (free) in various on-line magazines. I linked to sources for several in our discussion of Parker's Academic Exercises collection.
Many of Parker's short stories seem set in the same alternate world as this story, but apparently at different times, though Parker hasn't explicitly said so.
Of the stories listed at the topic above, I recommend "The Sun & I" for a fun origin of the "Invincible Sun" religion, one of whose Brothers seems referred to in this story. His "Let Maps to Others" and "A Small Price to Pay for Birdsong" are excellent and each won World Fantasy Awards (2012 & 2013).

I didn't love it but I'd be willing to read more from Parker. I have a trilogy of his that one day I'll get around to nominating.
I'll read the rest of that Clarkesworld Issue, I've already finished the other dragon themed story "Dragon's Deep".
One of the things I liked about the Knight protagonist was his age (56, if I remember correctly.) He's really a retired Knight, and his cynicism seems at least partly born from fatigue. He and his wife are scraping by on a farm, he hasn't worn his old armor in years, but he dusted off again (and probably lets out the girth) for the occasion, as do his companions.
Parker tells the story with the would be Dragonlayers muddling through, really with no idea how to find or kill a dragon, until the rather anticlimactic and tragic ending. The entire story is somewhat of a confession.
He tells this little story when as a teen he was told to go release some chickens into the woods, and that he goes to some effort to keep them from falling prey to the foxes by spreading them out (because it's the clucking at each other that attracts the foxes; all take his word for it.) And yet despite his efforts, the cocks find each other and begin fighting, because it's what they do.
"They do it because it’s what they do. Someone once said, the man who’s tired of killing is tired of life. Not sure I know what that means."
Parker tells the story with the would be Dragonlayers muddling through, really with no idea how to find or kill a dragon, until the rather anticlimactic and tragic ending. The entire story is somewhat of a confession.
He tells this little story when as a teen he was told to go release some chickens into the woods, and that he goes to some effort to keep them from falling prey to the foxes by spreading them out (because it's the clucking at each other that attracts the foxes; all take his word for it.) And yet despite his efforts, the cocks find each other and begin fighting, because it's what they do.
"They do it because it’s what they do. Someone once said, the man who’s tired of killing is tired of life. Not sure I know what that means."

I always trust that Parker has done his research & it's evident that he knows much, much more about weapon types than me. (While I usually find his descriptions fascinating, they do occasionally drift into tedious. I think " Dragonslayer" strikes a good balance.) it seems to me the armaments are usually historically accurate, but I don't know enough to tell if he bends the rules with things he thinks are really cool. Wikipedia tells me the scorpion was in use by the Romans but seems mum on whether it persists into the Middle Ages. I wonder if the "heirloom" in the story is so old it dates back to pseudo-Rome.
The reference to the thaler makes me think we're somewhere in the pseudo-Holy Roman Empire.
G33z3r notes that Parker's fantasy settings seem to hew fairly close to real history. In his work, I've definitely identified pseudo-Toman, pseudo-Byzantine, & pseudo-Hun cultures, but I've never been able to tell if the former have quite the relationship they do in "real" history or if the latter are more or equally as successful as Genghis & descendants

I thought that one was on the "pretty good" side of OK. I've enjoyed several of Cecilia Holland's historical fiction novels.

Books mentioned in this topic
The Father of Lies (other topics)Fearsome Journeys (other topics)
Clarkesworld Magazine, Issue 125, February 2017 (other topics)
Authors mentioned in this topic
K.J. Parker (other topics)K.J. Parker (other topics)
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This story first appeared in Fearsome Journeys.
It was reprinted in Clarkesworld Magazine, #125 and can be read online at Clarkesworld Magazine website, with an audio reading also available there. if you don't like Kate Baker's reading, you can instead listen to it read by Daniel Foley at PodCastle.