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SOLVED: Adult Fiction > SOLVED. Adult Fantasy, Thriller. A Spy, Secret Agent is friend of James Bond, trapped on an island during mission, gets transformed magically, maybe Bermuda Triangle or/and maybe Atlantis - read late 1980ies to mid 1995 so published surely before 1996. [s]

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message 151: by Capn (last edited Jan 31, 2022 07:45AM) (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Yeah, I thought it would be safe in German. Added spoiler tag, as suggested (quite right! Yuck.). :) Entschuldigung.

I found this author (forgive me if he is commonly known! New to me!), Helmut Rellergerd.

Two enticing books that don't quite fit, but I thought were suspiciously close enough that he might be your author, maybe?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

and

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... (his English pen name being Jason Dark )


message 152: by Capn (last edited Jan 31, 2022 08:33AM) (new)

Capn | 3506 comments I mean, I get that the Bermuda Triangle and Atlantis were hot fiction topics at the time. It could be an embarrassingly weak guess. ;)

Another one that caught my attention:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7...


And this one, by John Jakes, doesn't seem to be it, but seems such a close cousin: Mention My Name in Atlantis


message 153: by Capn (last edited Jan 31, 2022 11:41AM) (new)

Capn | 3506 comments My other contender today:


Die Verschwor̈ung von Sebes; Roman;
Author: Ferenc Körmendi
Publisher: [Hamburg] Hoffmann und Campe [©1972]
Edition/Format: Print book : Fiction : GermanView all editions and formats

Original title: Atlantis remembered.

https://www.worldcat.org/title/versch...

EDIT: Okay, on ZVAB it's listed under hist. Romane, and the jacket cover doesn't fit. Argh.
https://www.zvab.com/servlet/BookDeta...


message 154: by Capn (last edited Jan 31, 2022 11:42AM) (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Okay, I lied. Some more wild pot-shots:

Joachim Lehnhoff
https://www.amazon.com/Motu-Tabu-verb...
I don't know much about him, but Motu Tabu - der Verboten Insel comes up on WorldCat searches. Can't find much about it, not even on lovelybooks.de. Here's the wikipedia entry:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim...

and also
Die Hohenpriesterin von Atlantis by a Dan Kelly - only the one 'author' attribution given and no translator listed

Last guess of the day. Promise. :)


message 155: by Ingo (last edited Mar 22, 2022 03:54AM) (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Found a cheap collection of a few used old paperbacks with the following book and ordered it. Less than 10 Eur with shipping.
Have not written down, how much I have invested in this search as of now, bought a few used books, my guess is something under 50 Eur ( which is about 55 Us$ so for simplicity, and non-exact amounts of Eur-Us$ you can say a Euro is a Dollar ).

Die Hohepriesterin von Atlantis

Will check and report back.


message 156: by Capn (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Oh fingers crossed!! I haven't forgotten - this one is always on my radar! ;)


message 157: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Wow, fast delivery, I received the books today, and to answer your question, no, sorry to say,
it is not my book. It looks interesting, and some of the others do too, so I might read it.
There is time-travel to old times where Atlantis was supposed to have existed and some concepts are rather similar to my description of the book, so it was a good shot even if it missed, thanks!
Might write something about it, when I have read it, but that may take a while.
And while books where described as rather used, they where mostly in surprisingly good condition!

Unrelated, but I ordered at abebooks, and after checking the books, a login failed and I received a
"necessary password change" message which looked like a bad phishing-attempt - the same phrasing used...
After a few tries to get around it, I complied and had to change my password, and received a message, that
the change was successful - but the login failed, and my account is for now locked,
until the support changes that. They want me to call them, which I really hate (I was
myself a helpdesk-slave in IT and have called enough for a lifetime). Sent a message via Webform.
Had to pull myself together to be polite.
Using not one, but two password-managers (Apple Keychain and 1Password), I did not directly enter the password, and cannot say what went wrong.
My suspicion is the privacy-related features of macOS Monterey interfered.
Sorry for the long rant, needed that!


message 158: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54953 comments Mod
Ingo wrote: "... After a few tries to get around it, I complied and had to change my password, and received a message, that
the change was successful - but the login failed, and my account is for now locked,
until the support changes that. ..."


Hey Ingo, so you were one of the people at the other end of the phone... You must be an incredibly patient person. So it's not just a case of waiting out the delay before the system updates your password? Old systems are so frustrating that way. We're so used to instantaneous account updates these days.


message 159: by Capn (last edited Mar 25, 2022 02:25AM) (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Aww, shame it wasn't the one! Relieved to hear that you still find it worthwhile, though. Pity!

I really like Abebooks, too. Usually pretty good, but it depends on the vendor. Medimops (DE) sells through Abebooks/ZVAB as well as their own website, and they have a very different definition of "good/acceptable" than I do. Consistently battered, and the last picture book I bought, which I think was labelled "very good" had 4 pages where the pictures were damaged - it looked as if the book had gotten wet, and the pages ripped apart, so 25% of the picture was ripped blank space. >:( Just a warning - if it's listed by Medimops, you need "very good" or "wie Neu" as the rating to get the same quality as from the other sellers. I never use them anymore, if I can help it. The beauty of Abebooks is there are usually a few other options! (Here's my rant to join yours!) :)


message 160: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Capn wrote: "Aww, shame it wasn't the one! Relieved to hear that you still find it worthwhile, though. Pity!
Medimops (DE) sells ..."


Yeah I know Medimops, mostly from Amazon, and have bought there a lot, but the last time was DVD-Set from UK, which was not rated (Silent Witness, newest season) and should have been delivered with age-verification ( with official document like passport ), but went back as undeliverable, it was not even tried. Have not yet bought it elsewhere, for fear of happening again (new Covid-19 restriction at DHL, but Medimops and others should then not accept FSK 18-orders anymore).

The DVD or Blu-ray I bought had sometimes very used cases, but that's ok for me, as long as the disc is not dirty or scratched and playable. Books I tend to buy elsewhere, mostly. Also, I try to get all as an ebook, if possible, with few exceptions.


message 161: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Sorry rather late, missed 25th-End-of-April Bump.
In Hamburg it is today rather hot and humid for a Mayday, feels like a coming of a thunderstorm - Bump.


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump


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message 165: by Capn (new)

Capn | 3506 comments It couldn't possibly be an early work by Wolfgang Hohlbein, could it? I'm guessing you'd have suspected him already if it were possible...

Only I was going through his bibliography on GR, and some of the style seemed similar. And he (and Heike Hohlbein) have written Indiana Jones and Pirates of the Caribbean fiction...

Any chance he had a pseudonym or something? Seems to have started writing in the early 80s.


message 166: by Ingo (last edited Oct 03, 2022 05:16AM) (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments @Capn:
I am quite sure that is not Wolfgang Hohlbein, just a gut feeling, as I think I have never read anything from him. Will check it sometimes, though, so thank you. Answered today to make it also the 1 month interval bump.

Today is a national holiday in Germany, celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall. A different kind of bump.


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump
Last for 2022, bad year, currently ill but not too serious (covid-19, being vaccinated 3 times helps).
Wish y'all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, see you then.


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump


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message 171: by Capn (last edited Feb 24, 2023 02:50PM) (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Did you already see this author (Clyde Allison) and series?
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2017...

He's also on the "Adult" Spy Novels list: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...


message 172: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump - have not checked the latest suggestions, also am bit tired of searching.


message 173: by Capn (new)

Capn | 3506 comments I'm still looking for you, here and there. :) It really is a needle in a haystack, this one. I have my doubts that it still exists (I worry it was recalled for copyright infringement and pulped en masse...)


message 174: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump


message 175: by Ingo (last edited Jun 18, 2023 04:47AM) (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump - a few days ago I turned 57 (so, counting from 1, it was my 58th birthday...).


message 176: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54953 comments Mod
Hey Ingo, happy birthday. I was going to wish that your request gets solved before the number of posts exceeds the number of candles on your cake... but that ship sailed six years ago!


message 177: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Thanks! As of yet I am not about to give up my search!


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Jule Bump


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Bump for August.


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Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments September Bump, nearing fall my favourite season.


message 181: by Stephen (last edited Sep 21, 2023 08:26PM) (new)

Stephen (swynn68) | 87 comments Oh man I think I have this one

Check out Ladislav Mňačko's Gigant, aneb, Tajemství ostrova věčné lásky, which was published in German translation (from Czech) as "Gigant : ein Superthriller" by Ullstein in 1981.

There's a.Ladislav Mňačko Page at https://www.visegradliterature.net/wo...

which describes "Gigant" like this:

"Seit Jahren ist die Weltöffentlichkeit beunruhigt über die rätselhaften Geschehnisse im Bermuda-Dreieck: Flugzeuge, Tanker, U-Boote samt Besatzung verschwinden dort auf Nimmerwiedersehen... vielleicht auch die Frauen, die seit einiger Zeit vermisst werden? Spezialagent Jonas, ein Mann, der sich nicht mit alltäglichen Maßstäben messen lässt, will das Geheimnis ergründen - eine Aufgabe, die nur ein Gigant meistern kann."

And a reviewer at Databaseknih.cz writes a review that Google verenglisches thus:

"Super Agent Jonas penetrates the Bermuda Triangle, bipolar world, agents, feminist Mary, Tarzan, James Bond, Soviet agents, UFOs, Atlantis, etc. Very good as a light beach read, but unfortunately the book also has unjustified philosophical ambitions"

https://www.databazeknih.cz/knihy/gig...

EDITED to add link to Goodreads record.


message 182: by Ingo (last edited Sep 22, 2023 01:44AM) (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Wow! Thank you, I will try to track that down, and check it, if I can pay for it a reasonable amount. This looks most like it from all the suggestions! Great!

In German:
vielen Dank, ich werde versuchen, das zu finden und zu prüfen, wenn ich es einen bezahlbaren halbwegs brauchbaren Preis finde. Von allen vorgeschlagenen Büchern sieht das auch nach den Beschreibungen als Treffer aus. Grossartig!


message 183: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments No problem finding the book, ordered a used and cheap paperback for less than 4 Eur (aproxm. 4 Us$) inkl. shipping, could have paid more, but most normal prices where for used copies.
The book should arrive end of Sept/beginning of October, I will give confirmation then.

But I think
Moderation?
Please set it on Solved, if it is not the right book that can be changed easily, imho. Well 9 years, that was it worth.

Der Gigant by Ladislav Mňačko Der Gigant


message 184: by Capn (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Oh my word!!! Congratulations to Stephen and to Ingo if so! :D

This is an EVENT! XD Nine years?! :D


message 185: by Ingo (last edited Sep 30, 2023 04:18AM) (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Yesterday the book arrived in prime condition!
A quick view in FF through the pages confirmed most of my memories:


(x) German translation, not sure what the english title is, or if it even exists
(x) Paperback / also available as a hardcover
(x) small, 211 pages (but small print, so not realy short)
(x) Publisher: Ullstein
(x) Special Agent
(x) 007 James (Bond) is in the book
(x) Bermuda Triangle
(x) Magical zone with people living a long time, some of them from other histories ( Lord Greystroke aka Tarzan )
(x) Lesbian cult / gathering of women
(view spoiler)
( ) not happening imho: transformation of men to women


While not everything was as I remembered, it is certainly the book I was
searching for. Would like to read it as an ebook, as the typeset of the characters are too
small for my taste, but that is my problem.
Started: July 15th, 2014
Book received: September 29th. 2023
Days 3363, or about 64 months

Please mark as solved and thanks to all the people who helped and who are monitoring this for the solve! Great work.

Der Gigant by Ladislav Mňačko Der Gigant


message 186: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Set to solved, now how do I add the book?


message 187: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54953 comments Mod
Congrats, Ingo! Kudos to Stephen for finding this book.

(Moderators add books to the bookshelf, because this group is so large.)


message 188: by Stephen (new)

Stephen (swynn68) | 87 comments Hooray! Happy to help!

Now if I can figure out Bargle's with the cat people and holy toilets ...

Ingo wrote: "Yesterday the book arrived in prime condition!
A quick view in FF through the pages confirmed most of my memories:
(x) German translation, not sure what the english title is, or if it even exists
..."



message 189: by Bargle (last edited Mar 10, 2024 06:45AM) (new)

Bargle | 1759 comments Hooray!

A Spy, Secret Agent is friend of James Bond thread.


message 190: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1759 comments Stephen wrote: "Hooray! Happy to help!

Now if I can figure out Bargle's with the cat people and holy toilets..."


Would be nice. And the one with the handicapped kid.


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