Homer's The Odyssey, translated by Emily Wilson discussion

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message 1: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
This is a thread for group members to share links to published articles and reviews about Emily Wilson's translation of The Odyssey.


message 2: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Here's an excellent profile of Emily Wilson from the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/ma...


message 3: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
An article from The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...


message 4: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Emily Wilson remembers performing in a production of The Odyssey as a child: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2...


message 5: by Kris (last edited Dec 05, 2017 07:10AM) (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Excellent review of Wilson's translation from the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/bo... Lots of attention to translation decisions.


message 6: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
George wrote: "Great review. Looking forward to reading this even more, now. .."

It's quite a contrast to the NYT review of David Ferry's translation of The Aeneid, published at the same time as the Wilson review: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/bo... I winced when I read it.


message 7: by Lawyer (new)

Lawyer (goodreadscommm_sullivan) Emily Wilson discusses female characters in her translation of The Odyssey in The New Yorker : https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-...


message 8: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Thanks so much for posting the link!


message 9: by Lawyer (new)

Lawyer (goodreadscommm_sullivan) Kris wrote: "Thanks so much for posting the link!"

You're welcome!


message 10: by Tamara (new)

Tamara Agha-Jaffar Lawyer wrote: "Emily Wilson discusses female characters in her translation of The Odyssey in The New Yorker : https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-...-..."

A great article. I love her perspective. Thanks for posting the link.


message 11: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
I agree, Tamara. I'm going to add it to the gender thread in case anyone would like to discuss it further.


message 12: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl | 12 comments Thanks so much for posting the New Yorker article by Prof. Wilson. Her discernment of female attributes, societal freedoms and marital options will benefit me as we begin in March. Wow, what a difference gender interpretations make!


message 13: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Review from The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/books/201...


message 14: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl | 12 comments The Guardian article highlights significant translation changes from the male perspective to the new translation we'll be reading. I like seeing the contrasts. Thanks, Kris.


message 15: by Jan-Maat (new)

Jan-Maat (janmaatlandlubber) Some of you might be able to download this BBC programme which includes a feature on the Emily Wilson translation:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09hp311


message 16: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Thanks so much, Jan-Maat! Just downloaded it.


message 17: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 44 comments Emily Wilson interviewed on NPR: https://www.npr.org/2017/12/24/572911.... Includes an interesting discussion of her treatment of slavery.


message 18: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Wonderful - I had missed this! Thank you, Kathleen!


message 19: by Tamara (new)

Tamara Agha-Jaffar I second that. A lovely interview. Thank you for posting it, Kathleen.


message 20: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl | 12 comments Thank you, Kathleen. It is a pleasure to hear the author's voice tell the intimacies of her translation. Wish she could be interviewed on BookTV's In-Depth...maybe she will later in 2018.


message 21: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 44 comments No problem--I was happy to catch it on the radio, and of course more than happy to share. And Cheryl, yes! Wouldn't In-Depth be great. Crossing my fingers for that ...


message 22: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Handy web page compiling press coverage of Emily Wilson's translation: https://www.classics.upenn.edu/news/i...


message 23: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
Interview with Wilson in The Chicago Review of Books, focusing on translation decisions: https://chireviewofbooks.com/2018/01/...


message 24: by Sue (new)

Sue | 148 comments Thanks for this, Kris. I enjoyed her translator's note so I'm sure I would like more on the subject.


message 25: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Lieberman | 16 comments Nice interview in the Penn alumni magazine with Wilson and another Penn classicist: http://thepenngazette.com/an-odyssey-...


message 26: by Tamara (new)

Tamara Agha-Jaffar Lisa wrote: "Nice interview in the Penn alumni magazine with Wilson and another Penn classicist: http://thepenngazette.com/an-odyssey-..."

Very nice. Thank you for posting it.


message 27: by Kris (new)

Kris (krisrabberman) | 356 comments Mod
So glad you posted this, Lisa. Peter Struck is wonderful. He's serving on some of our faculty committees and I've had the pleasure of working with him on some new program proposals. One of my favorite people at Penn.


message 28: by Biblio (new)

Biblio Curious (bibliocurious) | 5 comments These are great resources, thank you for posting them everyone! I'm reading the one on gender bias now, it's fantastic.


message 29: by Lark (new)

Lark Benobi (larkbenobi) I'm so sorry to not be reading along--I unexpectedly started a micro-press recently. Fun but time-consuming.

I wanted to post this interesting take, which I don't think is here yet:

http://www.kirkcenter.org/bookman/art...

The iambic pentameter choice is so weirdly anachronistic, when the original is not.


message 30: by Tamara (new)

Tamara Agha-Jaffar Another interview with Emily Wilson.

https://www.tor.com/2018/05/03/all-th...


message 31: by Jan-Maat (new)

Jan-Maat (janmaatlandlubber) Emily Wilson speaks! (Along with some other people)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b4...


message 32: by Lark (new)

Lark Benobi (larkbenobi) Columbia has replaced the Lattimore translation of the Odyssey with Emily Wilson's. Article here:

https://www.columbiaspectator.com/art...

I think Lattimore is long past ready to be replaced but I still love Fagles best.


message 33: by Tamara (new)

Tamara Agha-Jaffar Lark wrote: "Columbia has replaced the Lattimore translation of the Odyssey with Emily Wilson's. Article here:

https://www.columbiaspectator.com/art......"


That's great! Thanks for sharing the link.


message 34: by Sue (new)

Sue | 148 comments I like both Fagles and Wilson in very different ways. I’m glad I don’t have to choose.


message 35: by Lark (new)

Lark Benobi (larkbenobi) Sue wrote: "I like both Fagles and Wilson in very different ways. I’m glad I don’t have to choose."

Probably what I mean is "I love Fagles AS NARRATED BY IAN MCKELLAN best." It was such a treat to have McKellan telling me this story.

Claire Danes is going to narrate Emily Wilson's Odyssey. I'm skeptical. She really bungled narrating The Handmaid's Tale imo.


message 36: by Sue (new)

Sue | 148 comments That must have been nice, McKellan narrating Fagles. I don’t listen to audio books so I don’t have that comparison available.


message 37: by Renata (new)

Renata | 2 comments I, too, loved the Fagles translation. I have both a beautiful hardback copy and the audio narrated by McKlellan and I don’t even recall which I had first. But I know that listening to the Odyssey being read by this incredibly gifted actor was like being transported back in time, if not all the way back to Homer than to a time where I was part of a greater audience and you could feel the energy of the listeners as we all experienced the different adventures and points of view together. Utterly magical!
Emily Watson’s is the one I would recommend to any younger readers like my grandchildren. It’s fresh modern voice was fun and I really admired her well thought out word choices. But I feel I really need to read it a 2nd time to appreciate it on its own without my brain continually comparing it to the Fagles, rather like a first love!


message 38: by Sue (new)

Sue | 148 comments That’s a good thought, Renata. I think I agree with you as to recommending Wilson to young or new readers of the Odyssey.It is very accessible and also may be more approachable for those who don’t “do” poetry.

I’m looking forward to Wilson’s translation of the Iliad though I know it will be a while :-)


message 39: by Renata (new)

Renata | 2 comments I never felt that attached to the Iliad but I’m thinking Wilson’s translation might help me access the characters more. I love the way she is playful with language but in a very purposeful and reflective way.


message 40: by Sue (new)

Sue | 148 comments I liked Fagles translation of The Iliad much better than whatever one I read in college, but I would very much like to see Wilson’s take on it.


message 41: by Lark (new)

Lark Benobi (larkbenobi) Sue wrote: "I liked Fagles translation of The Iliad much better than whatever one I read in college, but I would very much like to see Wilson’s take on it."

Caroline Alexander translated the Iliad in 2016 and I wondered, after Wilson's Odyssey came out, why Alexander wasn't able to capitalize on the "first woman" story more for The Iliad in the manner that Wilson did with the Odyssey this year.

Review:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/a...


message 42: by Sue (new)

Sue | 148 comments I did pick up Alexander’s translation for kindle this year when it was a special but haven’t read it yet. That’s a very good question Lark, about her not using the marketing method that seems to have been so successful for Wilson. Alexander and her publisher seem to have missed an advantage.


message 43: by Tamara (last edited Oct 26, 2018 06:36PM) (new)

Tamara Agha-Jaffar I read Alexander's Iliad in 2016 when it first came out. I loved it. But now that you mention it, Lark, I wonder why she didn't capitalize on it the way Wilson did with the Odyssey. In some ways, I preferred Alexander's translation because it didn't have some of those jarring modernisms that Wilson used in the Odyssey (e.g. Telemachus referring to Eurycleia as "nanny.") Weird!

My review of Alexander's Iliad in case anyone is interested.
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 44: by Marcus (new)

Marcus Hobson | 11 comments Caroline Alexander wrote an excellent book called The War That Killed Achilles in which she makes some very clear parallels with modern reactions to war and those described in The Iliad.
My (slightly long and rambling) review https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


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