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I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of giving us vague endings to his stories :P

But the one part which I really didn't like was Davis giving money to Aza and she just went on? I really couldn't relate to her there because I would have found it really weird to date the guy who gave me money to keep a secret. It was unsettling.
The reason I looked the book was the anxiety base, mostly. I didn't like Daisy all that much and Aza was okay (I loved Noah) but the characters didn't really come out on the top floor me.



I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of giving us vague endings to his ..."
While the end was a bit vague I appreciated the way Green told us that Aza went on to learn to love and be loved. While he does admit she was not "cured"(I am not saying mental illness can be cured) it was a beautiful thing to see that she could be loved even with her mental illness because that was something throughout the novel she questioned herself.

I believe I read somewhere that Green has OCD like Aza does and that one of the reasons he wrote the novel was to help people (like me) who don't have it see inside his head and how he related to the world. In that, I think he was successful. I also think the ending goes along with that, saying that a person will never be "cured" of it but can figure out how to manage it and interact with the world. It wasn't a happily ever after ending, but it was (I felt ) realistic one.
Still doesn't mean I loved this book. I still feel like he made us wait too long for a follow-up and it ultimately disappointed me.

I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of giving us vague e..."
Its the "never getting better" about Aza's illness bothers me much. I mean it is really hard for me to accept that she was never going to be better. Jon Green just pointed out that life goes on and she would too. Well its depressing... :/

It never occurred to me that Green would give us a cross-over between David and Aza though I would have liked that. But I like to think that their paths will cross in future. The last line indicates hope I guess. This one has an ending quite like paper towns. And Daisy was great as a friend to Aza but not as great as Hassan was to Colin in The abundances of Katherines.

I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of givi..."
I don't find the ending depressing. It's sad, but life often is sad. The truth is that for most people with OCD, it is a lifelong struggle. That's just how it is. I found the story actually incredibly hopeful in how it showed that despite the struggle, Aza (and John, and others with mental illness) can have meaningful relationships, and hope, and a future worth living for.
To me, the (non-romantic) OTP in this story is Daisy and Aza. They are each other's people. They are there for each other, despite everything. The mystery and romance subplots are in service to the larger narrative about living with mental illness, and learning to look beyond yourself to try and see through the eyes of those you love.

I agree with this point. This wasn't supposed to be a lovey dovey book with a happy ending. Thats not John Green. In this book, he wrote about something very honest and realistic and relatable to many people. I was one of them. l appreciated the fact that Aza wasn't outwardly diagnosed with something, because her feelings, thoughts, and experiences can be felt by a multitude of people with different diagnosis.
Aza's thoughts felt real, and I like how we were able to see Daisy's opinion on Aza. There are some people who find it hard and tiring to "deal" with a person who has a mental illness and to realize that those emotions only come from not understanding and not knowing how to help. This is shown with Aza's mom.
She constantly is putting pressure on her daughter to get better and to just "snap out of it" because she's selfish and it hurts her to see Aza in pain. Her worry comes from a good plan but in execution makes Aza feel worse.
This book is great to start a conversation about mental illness and how it affects others and to normalize it and help erase the stigma surrounding it.


The one thing I didn't like, and rarely do in Green's books, is the way the teenagers are always these deep philosophical, talented, intelligent beings who never really do anything typical of teenagers. There may be teenagers out there like that, but not in the quantities that you find them in Green's books and even then they aren't constantly having these large existential conversations. Daisy felt real in the moments when she talked about college and paying for it. That is more in par with what most teenagers are grappling with today then the question of existence.

My sister has OCD that is mainly habits & rituals (as far as I know she’s not O-OCD) and this book really reflected what OCD can be like.
Obviously John Green has quite the advantage in writing about OCD because he has OCD himself but I applaud him for being able to put those thoughts in a book for all of us to see. We may just see characters in a book, but under that was a bit of John Green, and many others, reality.





I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be ..."
I agree, I think the conversations and feelings of other characters about Aza and her struggles are very real and speak to the realities of living with OCD, while trying to manage relationships.

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My favorie character is Davis. I love the way he handle things and how smooth and soft he is,I am kind of annoyed with Aza for how she acts.This is not the favorite book of mine which was written by John Green.But I like the part where there is blog commenting.





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