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Erika (livingforthebooks) | 3004 comments Mod
What did you think of it? Favorite or least favorite characters? Favorite or least favorite part?


Kate (katespofford) I really loved it! My favorite character is probably Aza (or maybe Noah). Least favorite would be Daisy, I kind of understood where she was coming from but I also felt like she was a little bit mean. I mean, I wouldn't expect someone not in a fandom to read my fanfiction. I both like that Davis is kept a bit of a mystery but I still wanted to know more about him!


Nkisha My favourite character was Daisy because she didn't treat Aza with kid gloves. my least favourite part would have to be how they solved the mystery of Davis's dad going missing it was all a bit too simple.


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Niaz Nafi | 4 comments Does anyone want to talk about the "end"? I'm a bit in a haze here...


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Niaz Nafi | 4 comments And favorite character is Chewbacca... :p


Michael (bigorangemichael) | 2 comments I wanted to love it, but I found myself not coming away with as positive an impression as many reviewers on GoodReads have. I have been wary of posting a review because I'm afraid to incur the wrath of Green fans.


Quinn (rileywalsh) | 7 comments Niaz wrote: "Does anyone want to talk about the "end"? I'm a bit in a haze here..."
I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of giving us vague endings to his stories :P


Sumedha the wordy habitat (thewordyhabitat) We got an ending which isn't actually an ending? Being a romantic, I was hoping for a last scene where they cross paths again like in The Sun is Also A Star but there wasn't and I'm disappointed a little bit. I love the anxiety, money issues and troubles thing we had going on.

But the one part which I really didn't like was Davis giving money to Aza and she just went on? I really couldn't relate to her there because I would have found it really weird to date the guy who gave me money to keep a secret. It was unsettling.

The reason I looked the book was the anxiety base, mostly. I didn't like Daisy all that much and Aza was okay (I loved Noah) but the characters didn't really come out on the top floor me.


Ida 💓 I really liked it, I think Noah was probably the most interesting character even though we did not see much of him and I loved the whole struggle with Davis on how to take care of Noah now that the father is gone. I also dont really get the endimensionelt which is kind of bothering me but overall I think the book was great! (I am new to this group btw)


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Sara (confettti) | 4 comments I just finished it and I'm a little underwhelmed. Aza and Davis were definitely two "outsiders" but I just didn't care for them as much as I did Noah or even Daisy when she pointed out that Aza didn't know her sister's name.


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Erin | 4 comments Riley wrote: "Niaz wrote: "Does anyone want to talk about the "end"? I'm a bit in a haze here..."
I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of giving us vague endings to his ..."


While the end was a bit vague I appreciated the way Green told us that Aza went on to learn to love and be loved. While he does admit she was not "cured"(I am not saying mental illness can be cured) it was a beautiful thing to see that she could be loved even with her mental illness because that was something throughout the novel she questioned herself.


Michael (bigorangemichael) | 2 comments Iridescence wrote: "We got an ending which isn't actually an ending? Being a romantic, I was hoping for a last scene where they cross paths again like in The Sun is Also A Star but there wasn't and I'm disappointed a ..."

I believe I read somewhere that Green has OCD like Aza does and that one of the reasons he wrote the novel was to help people (like me) who don't have it see inside his head and how he related to the world. In that, I think he was successful. I also think the ending goes along with that, saying that a person will never be "cured" of it but can figure out how to manage it and interact with the world. It wasn't a happily ever after ending, but it was (I felt ) realistic one.

Still doesn't mean I loved this book. I still feel like he made us wait too long for a follow-up and it ultimately disappointed me.


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Niaz Nafi | 4 comments Erin wrote: "Riley wrote: "Niaz wrote: "Does anyone want to talk about the "end"? I'm a bit in a haze here..."
I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of giving us vague e..."

Its the "never getting better" about Aza's illness bothers me much. I mean it is really hard for me to accept that she was never going to be better. Jon Green just pointed out that life goes on and she would too. Well its depressing... :/


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Niaz Nafi | 4 comments Iridescence wrote: "We got an ending which isn't actually an ending? Being a romantic, I was hoping for a last scene where they cross paths again like in The Sun is Also A Star but there wasn't and I'm disappointed a ..."
It never occurred to me that Green would give us a cross-over between David and Aza though I would have liked that. But I like to think that their paths will cross in future. The last line indicates hope I guess. This one has an ending quite like paper towns. And Daisy was great as a friend to Aza but not as great as Hassan was to Colin in The abundances of Katherines.


Vanessa (vanessabooks) Niaz wrote: "Erin wrote: "Riley wrote: "Niaz wrote: "Does anyone want to talk about the "end"? I'm a bit in a haze here..."
I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be a fan of givi..."


I don't find the ending depressing. It's sad, but life often is sad. The truth is that for most people with OCD, it is a lifelong struggle. That's just how it is. I found the story actually incredibly hopeful in how it showed that despite the struggle, Aza (and John, and others with mental illness) can have meaningful relationships, and hope, and a future worth living for.

To me, the (non-romantic) OTP in this story is Daisy and Aza. They are each other's people. They are there for each other, despite everything. The mystery and romance subplots are in service to the larger narrative about living with mental illness, and learning to look beyond yourself to try and see through the eyes of those you love.


kooly (koolestlozer) Vanessa wrote: "I don't find the ending depressing. It's sad, but life often is sad. The truth is that for most people with OCD, it is a lifelong struggle. That's just how it is. I found the story actually incredibly hopeful in how it showed that despite the struggle, Aza (and John, and others with mental illness) can have meaningful relationships, and hope, and a future worth living for. "

I agree with this point. This wasn't supposed to be a lovey dovey book with a happy ending. Thats not John Green. In this book, he wrote about something very honest and realistic and relatable to many people. I was one of them. l appreciated the fact that Aza wasn't outwardly diagnosed with something, because her feelings, thoughts, and experiences can be felt by a multitude of people with different diagnosis.

Aza's thoughts felt real, and I like how we were able to see Daisy's opinion on Aza. There are some people who find it hard and tiring to "deal" with a person who has a mental illness and to realize that those emotions only come from not understanding and not knowing how to help. This is shown with Aza's mom.

She constantly is putting pressure on her daughter to get better and to just "snap out of it" because she's selfish and it hurts her to see Aza in pain. Her worry comes from a good plan but in execution makes Aza feel worse.

This book is great to start a conversation about mental illness and how it affects others and to normalize it and help erase the stigma surrounding it.


Pooja Ravi | 5 comments I personally love John Green. This book is kinda in the middle for me. I did like it... Some parts were amazing. Her thought spirals were beautifully translated on paper. The ending was okay. Overall it was a good and light read. Not the emotional rollercoaster I expected for some reason.


Jasmine I just finished and enjoyed this book. I thought Green did a fantastic job of embodying mental illness in a character and really making you feel the way Aza did in not being able to control her thoughts. I felt sympathetic for her while also feeling heartbroken for people I know who have depression. I know this book wasn't about depression, but depression is similar in not being able to control your thoughts and sometimes your body.

The one thing I didn't like, and rarely do in Green's books, is the way the teenagers are always these deep philosophical, talented, intelligent beings who never really do anything typical of teenagers. There may be teenagers out there like that, but not in the quantities that you find them in Green's books and even then they aren't constantly having these large existential conversations. Daisy felt real in the moments when she talked about college and paying for it. That is more in par with what most teenagers are grappling with today then the question of existence.


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isa (1sa1sa) I really loved this book!

My sister has OCD that is mainly habits & rituals (as far as I know she’s not O-OCD) and this book really reflected what OCD can be like.

Obviously John Green has quite the advantage in writing about OCD because he has OCD himself but I applaud him for being able to put those thoughts in a book for all of us to see. We may just see characters in a book, but under that was a bit of John Green, and many others, reality.


Lynne Stringer | 344 comments I loved this book and I don't usually go for the 'popular' books, but I could so relate to the protagonist. Although I don't have the compulsions, the anxiety-related ways of her mind are identical to my own. I couldn't believe how accurately it reflected my thought patterns.


Emery Rose I loved this book! I can really relate to Aza and her feelings and problems. Such good writing!


Queen Jenna the III (queenjennatheiii) | 251 comments I read this book, and I can totally relate. My favorite character was the old woman who told the scientist it was turtles all the way down. It helps me when I get into a thought spiral, when I think,"It's turtles all the way down."


Apollo (huntressathogwarts) I don't really know what I think of this book. I like how Green writes but I didn't really like the characters. My favorite is Davis, I like how he speak and his thoughts. And I love the part when Daisy tells Aza "it's turtles all the way down".


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Emma Gibson (chickenthighhhh) | 28 comments I LOVED this book. I think John Green did a fantastic job portraying what it is like having OCD and it made me feel a little more normal for having it. I loved daisy I think she is so funny and I like how Aza wasn't simply excused for being a bad friend because she had OCD, but rather Daisy made her own up to her behavior because she wants to remain friends with her! Such a good plot and message for those with and without OCD!


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Emma Gibson (chickenthighhhh) | 28 comments Vanessa wrote: "Niaz wrote: "Erin wrote: "Riley wrote: "Niaz wrote: "Does anyone want to talk about the "end"? I'm a bit in a haze here..."
I think the end was supposed to make you think... John Green seems to be ..."


I agree, I think the conversations and feelings of other characters about Aza and her struggles are very real and speak to the realities of living with OCD, while trying to manage relationships.


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Bella Chirkis (bellachirkis) I remember reading this book years ago and it was one of those books you never forget! John Green is an amazing author and the character development in this book truly shows it in my opinion!


Maddy Pare (booksbeyondtime) | 9 comments So i read this book about a month ago I think (I can never keep my books straight no matter how hard I try). I adore John Green, have read almost every book he has written or been a part of writing, and this book solidified just how great of an author I thought he was. Throughout the entire book, as we saw just how bad Aza's thought spirals could get, and did get, I found myself going into my own thought spirals. I would have to stop reading sometimes just to give my mind a break. I am not saying this in a bad way, I'm saying this in the sense that Green made it so every moment Aza had, every feeling she felt, we felt it too. That is the making of an incredible author.


Colleen | 8 comments It was definitely a good book and I enjoyed reading. At some points I got a little annoyed at the main character (Aza I think).


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My favorie character is Davis. I love the way he handle things and how smooth and soft he is,I am kind of annoyed with Aza for how she acts.This is not the favorite book of mine which was written by John Green.But I like the part where there is blog commenting.


Cindy Wise | 2 comments This was the only John Green book I have read so i have no comparisons. I really liked it though. Sometimes I read for the story and sometimes for the message and sometimes its for both. In this case i really appreciated being able to be put inside Aza's thoughts. To get a sense of what its like to be OCD. What a spiral is like. I think authors are extra brave when they put a part of themselves out there that's deep and honest and real. Its a risk. So my take away is more the message than the story on this one.


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Cyra | 2 comments I loved this book! The portrayal of mental illness such as Anxiety and OCD is so realistic and mesmerizing. Aza's spiraling thoughts was written so well. I loved Davis character too! He was so understanding with Aza, although I think he really deserved better.


zainab (the-art-of-reading) I'd have to say this wasn't a favorite John Green novel for me, but there were definitely some good parts. I could really relate to Aza and her experiences with OCD and anxiety were very well written. I haven't read this book in a while, but I can say that I liked Daisy and Davis way more than Aza.


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Gabrielle Hyde | 3 comments I have just bought this book and really am looking forward to reading it.


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Minchu I totally agree Aza was not my favorite either and this is not best of John green...but it's a good book.


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Lil | 3 comments I have not really enjoyed it. I feel like it had big potential and I was actually excited to read it but then while reading it I was kind of disappointed. I haven't got attached to any of the characters. Aza was definitely not my favourite. Thorough the book I found myself getting bored a couple of times.


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