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message 1: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Oct 22, 2017 09:09AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6773 comments Is it the policy that only those single issue comics with an ASIN or ISBN appear on GR?

What if an edition has neither, but other editions *do* have a qualifying number? Should those editions without the number be deleted?

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6773 comments Should I have put this in the questions folder?

message 3: by Emy (new)

Emy (emypt) | 5034 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Should I have put this in the questions folder?"

It's a bit of both really,.. :/

To the question, AFAIK policy is still that individual comic editions are only acceptable if they were published with an ASIN or ISBN. If they have neither, and can't be considered an ACE, then they should be merged or deleted (with a merge as a preference).

Merge targets in order of preference
- same issue with ASIN or ISBN
- collected edition, e.g. Comics published with ISBN including this issue.

(I know you know some of this stuff already, but repeating it for anyone who comes along later and finds this thread).

message 4: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Oct 24, 2017 10:42AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6773 comments Thanks, Emy. I really needed clarification on those editions without the number. There are quite a few of them and they are the default editions with thousands - sometimes tens of thousands - of shelvings.

Which is preferable:

1. Post them in the thread for supers to merge
2. Create a new thread for them specifically
3. Write support to have staff do them

message 5: by Emy (last edited Oct 24, 2017 10:46AM) (new)

Emy (emypt) | 5034 comments David has been posting a lot in the supers-merge thread, and is now a Super himself. I suggest perhaps liaising with him directly? I'm not sure if there is a limit on merge-adds for us - I've not found it yet but that's not to say there isn't one!


message 6: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Oct 24, 2017 11:30AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6773 comments I'll contact him. There may be as many as 100 editions that need to be merged. These are all individual/single issue comics.

message 7: by Emy (new)

Emy (emypt) | 5034 comments Enjoy :P

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6773 comments Thanks again for chiming in Emy. Project is moving along!

message 9: by David (last edited Oct 24, 2017 11:05PM) (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments I'm happy to assist with sorting out whole series of them.
Either post here or in private.

I've queued the entire Saga yesterday, but from some reason it delays. Perhaps 1k+ shelvings merges take longer.

☕ Lachgas ♿  (lachgas) | 6188 comments 1k? O.O bet that will be on here very soon again - seems like this comics task can be a neverending one.

But on topic:
I'm not into comics at all but doesn't that rule (which I appreciate in general) make the creation of proper series quite hard/incomplete?
There might be a lot of comic issues (and singles aren't that uncommon there I assume) without ISBN and the later ones now same singles but published as kindle too? That would make a quite incomplete series then?
(If I would read that issues an incomplete series would even bother me more than if there's none at all)
Or is it just possible to replace the singles without ASIN/ISBN with valid collections?

But that was just my non comic guy thought and I might be really wrong with it...

message 11: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 20784 comments David wrote: "I've queued the entire Saga yesterday, but from some reason it delays. Perhaps 1k+ shelvings merges take longer. "

Congratulations on your promotion!

This example is very extreme, and definitely will need quite some time before it is merged. And also ones that were queued after that one are probably influenced and delayed, even when those editions don't have many shelvings.

message 12: by David (last edited Oct 25, 2017 11:52AM) (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments @Arenda thanks. I must have hit a protection barrier because none of them was actually merged. They can only be done one by one. I just realized 1k reviews is a very low estimate, this one has 49,708 reviews. I'm queueing it now, lets see how long it takes.

@Lachgas yes, some series are incomplete. But lucky for us some publishers (e.g. Aspen) chose to republish their entire catalog on comiXology, which in turn was published as Kindle, so one can make mega collections like this:
* Fathom Vol. 1
* Fathom: Killian's Tide
* Michael Turner's Fathom: The World Below
* Aspen Extended
* Fathom: Dawn of War
* Fathom Vol. 2
* Cannon Hawke
* Fathom: Kiani Vol. 1
* Fathom: Killian's Vessel
* Fathom Vol. 3
* Fathom: Blue Descent
* Fathom Against all Odds #1
* Fathom Vol. 4
* Fathom: Kiani Vol. 2
* Fathom: The Elite Saga
* All New Fathom Vol. 5
* Fathom: Kiani Vol. 3
* Fathom Annual #1
* The Fathom Sourcebook #1
* Fathom: Kiani Vol. 4
* Fathom: Blue
* All New Fathom Vol. 6

* Fathom origines
* Fathom Delcourt ed.
* Fathom Norma ed.
* Fathom Sonderheft
* Fathom Infinity ed.

Or even this:
* Deadpool: The Circle Chase (1993)
* Deadpool (1994) (1994)
* Deadpool (1997-2002)
* Daredevil/Deadpool Annual (July 1997)
* Deadpool & Death Annual (July 1998)
* Deadpool Team-Up (1998)
* Baby's First Deadpool Book (December 1998)
* Cable & Deadpool (May 2004)
* Deadpool/GLI - Summer Fun Spectacular
* Deadpool (2008-2012)
* Deadpool: Games of Death (May 2009)
* Deadpool: Suicide Kings (June 2009)
* Deadpool: Merc with a Mouth (Sep 2009)
* Deadpool Team-Up (Jan 2010)
* Prelude To Deadpool Corps (May 2010)
* Deadpool Corps: Rank and Foul (May 2010)
* Deadpool Corps (June 2010)
* Deadpool: Wade Wilson's War (August 2010)
* X-Men Origins: Deadpool (Sep 2010)
* Deadpool Pulp (Nov 2010)
* Deadpool Max (December 2010)
* Wolverine/Deadpool: The Decoy (Jan 2011)
* Deadpool Family (June 2011)
* Fear Itself: Deadpool (Aug 2011)
* Deadpool Max 2 (December 2011)
* Deadpool Max: X-Mas Special (Feb 2012)
* Deadpool (2013-2015)
* Deadpool Killustrated (Mar 2013)
* Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe (Oct 2012)
* Deadpool Kills Deadpool (Sep 2013)
* Night of the Living Deadpool (Mar 2014)
* Deadpool vs. Carnage (June 2014)
* Deadpool: Dracula's Gauntlet (sep 2014)
* Deadpool vs. X-Force (September 2014)
* Death of Wolverine: Deadpool & Captain America
* Hawkeye vs. Deadpool (November 2014)
* Deadpool's Art of War (December 2014)
* Return of the Living Deadpool (April 2015)
* Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars (July 2015)
* Mrs Deadpool and the Howling Commandos (August 2015)
* Deadpool vs. Thanos (November 2015)
* Deadpool (2016-) (Jan 2016)
* Deadpool And Cable: Split Second (Febr 2016)
* Spider-Man/Deadpool (March 2016)
* Deadpool & The Mercs For Money Vol. 1 (April 2016)
* Deadpool: Last Days of Magic
* Deadpool v Gambit (august 2016)
* Deadpool & The Mercs For Money Vol. 2 (September 2016)
* Deadpool: Back In Black (Dec 2016)
* Deadpool: Too Soon? (Dec 2016)
* Deadpool The Duck (Mar 2017)
* Deadpool vs. The Punisher (Jun 2017)
* Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe Again (Sep 2017)
* Deadpool Classic
* Secret Wars: Deadpool (Panini France)
* Deadpool (Marvel France 2e)
* Deadpool (Marvel France 3e)
* Deadpool (Marvel Deluxe)
* Masacre: Héroes Marvel
* Deadpool Marvel Now! de Ovni Press
* Las Minis de Masacre
* Deadpool Sonderband
* Deadpool Killer-Kollektion
* All-New Deadpool

(I have more)

message 13: by ☕ Lachgas ♿ (last edited Oct 25, 2017 05:07PM) (new)

☕ Lachgas ♿  (lachgas) | 6188 comments That's ...pretty much Deadpool O,O

Will be curious if that huge merge will go through and only thinking of the time a merge will probably take ... that will be a quite long project O,O - thanks that you're dealing with that!

at around 2am here the merge is really through (yes, I was watching and waiting :) congrats to that pretty huge one David)

message 14: by David (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments Done with Saga so if anyone needs any more I can do them.

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6773 comments Thanks, David!

message 16: by Ayshe (new)

Ayshe | 3055 comments David wrote: "Done with Saga so if anyone needs any more I can do them."

While searching for something else I stumbled upon Dark Horse Presents which appears to be in the same category - comics without ISBNs

There are some duplicates under different authors:

message 17: by David (last edited Nov 02, 2017 07:20AM) (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments I added Dark Horse Presents to my backlog.

☕ Lachgas ♿  (lachgas) | 6188 comments Hi David,
while on some initials I came across that author
These Green Lantern comics might have duplicates (the sinestro corps seems to have at least one, didn't check the others as I've no clue at all. so I left the books on that periodless initials untouched.
No idea if these isbnless ones are valid for GR at all but they need to be combined first not matter if valid or not.
If you've time to deal with them I'd be really happy because I've no idea and don't want to mess up

☕ Lachgas ♿  (lachgas) | 6188 comments Another one David these don't seem to have ISBN (at least not the first one I looked at) so perhaps there are duplicates existing with ASIN? or they might need to be deleted or merged into some collections or something like that?

message 21: by David (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments I'm looking into it

message 22: by David (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments #19: These are Eaglemoss Collections releases, a partworks release which does not have ISBN, but is certainly in book format. They usually have unique content so cannot be merged with anything else except the same released in other languages.
I merged identical releases and left a note so they wont be combined incorrectly.
If I ever do the single issues collection for these series, I'll make sure they are catalogued correctly.

message 23: by David (last edited Dec 19, 2017 06:50AM) (new)

David Raz (davidraz) | 4106 comments #20 no ISBN or ASIN so these don't belong in the Goodreads database. I merged issues #1-13 with the relevant collection and deleted issues #14-16 which were not collected. I also deleted the series.

☕ Lachgas ♿  (lachgas) | 6188 comments Super, thanks a lot!

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rivka | 43502 comments Mod
This was originally a policy thread, and having it become an issues thread is confusing. So I am closing this one, and if a new thread or threads are needed, adding one or both is fine.

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