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message 901: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments We have four Bins - and they are emptied two at a time on a Fortnightly basis. We have a Black Landfill Waste Bin, a Green Garden & Food Waste Bin, a Blue Paper Waste Bin, and a Brown Glass, Plastic Bottle, Tins & Foil Waste Bin ;o>


message 902: by [deleted user] (new)

Our household waste and recycling bins are emptied on alternating weeks, and I drag the correct bin out on my way to work at half past midnight - quietly, of course :)
The bins are supposed to be out by about half past six for emptying from seven o'clock onwards and there has been many an occasion that I am home from work, as late as midday, when the bins still haven't been emptied.

Grass cuttings get raked onto the flowerbeds and left to decompose or, at the moment, get stolen by the birds for nest building. The mucky buggers have dropped a load of it in the bird bath as well
Other garden waste from cutting back the trees and bushes has been bagged and will go down the tip tomorrow along with the mattress, space permitting. I'm not going to be paying the extra for the brown bin collection.


message 903: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments east ayrshire cooncil.
green bin - general
blue bin - paper
brown bin - garden (no charge)
black box - glass
red box - tins/plastic
wee green lidded box - food
large item uplift - £15 per visit
however, currently in process of rolling out 3 box trolleys (paper/glass'plastic) which (we haven't taken delivery of yet) which is clearly inadequate for the amount we recycle!


message 904: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments Growing up we had just one metal bin which was emptied once a week. Wednesday morning the back gate was left open for access, a bin man would take out the bin and return it after emptying. For some reason this was a highlight of the week to us kids in the street and we would watch the proceedings with great interest.
Mind you in those days there wasn't as much packaged food,paper and cardboard usually ended up on the fire, most gardens had a compost heap of some sort for the rest. Most bottles were returnable and the rag and bone man with horse and cart came around regular ..... and we'd never heard of recycling!


message 905: by Val (last edited May 20, 2018 01:55AM) (new)

Val H. | 22149 comments Reminds me of this one:

"In the line at the store, the cashier told the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bag, because plastic bags weren’t good for the environment. The woman apologized to him and explained, “We didn’t have the green thing back in my day.”

The clerk responded, “That’s our problem today. The former generation did not care enough to save our environment.”

He was right. That generation didn’t have the green thing in its day.

Back then, they returned their milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled so the company could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.

But they didn’t have the green thing back in that customer’s day.

In her day they walked up stairs, because they didn’t have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn’t climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks.

But she was right. They didn’t have the green thing in her day.

Back then, they washed the baby’s diaper, because they didn’t have the throw-away kind. They dried clothes on a clothesline, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts – wind and solar power really did dry the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that old lady is right, they didn’t have the green thing back in her day.

Back then they had the one TV, or radio, in the house – not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief, not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen they blended and stirred by hand, because they didn’t have electric machines to do everything for them.

When they packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, they used a wadded up old newspaper to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.

Back then, they didn’t fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. They used a push mower that ran on human power. They exercised by working so they didn’t need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she’s right, they didn’t have the green thing back then.

They drank from a fountain when they were thirsty instead of using a throw away cup or a plastic bottle every time they had a drink of water. They refilled their writing pens with ink instead of buying new pens, and they replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But they didn’t have the green thing back then.

Back then people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or rode the school bus instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. They had the one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And they didn’t need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

Isn’t it sad the current generation laments how wasteful the old folks were just because they didn’t have the green thing back then?"


And didn't every family save string? Wrapping paper/brown paper was carefully folded and put under the cushions on the settee so it could be flattened to be used again.

And yes, I used to walk 8 miles up-hill to school in the snow.....

Young ones today? They don't know they're born....


message 906: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1370 comments Everything Val says about the 'green thing' is true, with a few caveats about lead water pipes, lead paint etc. But we have such arcane rules about what we can and can't recycle and how it should be done that it's small wonder that people can't be bothered. Where we live, there's one set of rules, there's another set where we spend some time when the DH isn't working. It's different from both at my sister's, and another set of rules at my brother's and yet again at our daughter's which is different from where my Mum lived before she died a few years ago.
I make that six sets of regulations that I've had to learn and use in the last few years and I'm sure that should we move again, it'll be different. At least I'm retired and have a little more time to keep up. How do working families cope?


message 907: by suzysunshine7 (last edited May 20, 2018 02:29AM) (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments What has really got me frustrated and rather annoyed is not the strict and rigid way that we have to recycle almost everything in Stockport - but discovering that, on visiting my friend in Barrow who lives in a communal Building, virtually no recycling takes place!

There are just two massive Skip Bins that get everything all thrown in together - plus they also get occasional visits from overnight Flytippers dumping all kinds of stuff in them as well.

It makes such a mockery of me so very carefully separating everything out here - to go up there on a visit and find myself having to just throw everything in. There are some Recycling Bins around the Town Centre but people don't often go out of their way to use them and the sheer amount of unrecycled stuff that gets chucked in and goes off in the Skips every week just makes me want to weep at times ;oO


message 908: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22149 comments I don't know the situation in the UK but down here much of our recycling (mostly paper and plastics) went to China (who paid for it). However, they have recently tightened their restrictions on contaminants (our rubbish is too dirty) and won't be taking much in the future. This throws everything back on the shoulders of our local councils who I doubt have the resources to process the recycled materials themselves. Makes me cross because I'm a recycling Nazi and wash everything (talk about wasting water!) to sparkling clean before I put it in the bin!

http://theconversation.com/chinas-rec...


message 909: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1370 comments We know some people who refuse to recycle on the grounds that the stuff we so carefully separate isn't properly processed anyway, either because it's contaminated out of ignorance or carelessness, or because it's shipped to places that take the money and don't do the job.
Much plastic and paper simply gets onto the streets because the bins are inadequate and wind or animals can tip them over.


message 910: by Martin (last edited May 20, 2018 02:54AM) (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments Well put Val, if only some MP could be persuaded to raise this issue on PM's Question time. If these campaigners are so concerned about the environmental issues such as plastic in the oceans and seas they should consider that it is the manufacturers who rely so much on cheap plastics and other products that pollute our world to increase their profits who are as much if not more responsible than the actual consumer. Seems to me that no matter what shop you use many products comes in some form of plastic or other packaging which serves no actual purpose and greener alternatives are practically impossible to find.


message 911: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments I'm more than a little sceptical as well, Isabella, as to exactly how much genuine Recycling takes place. And the Statistics we are quoted can clearly be so deceptive too.

We are told here that Stockport recycles as much as 80% of it's Plastic Waste? - very impressive, hey? - but there is only Plastic Bottle Recycling that is permitted - and not any other kind of Plastic Packaging including what must be a weekly mini mountain of Plastic Food Trays. They still have to go into the Landfill Bin ;o<

And it doesn't take a genius to work out that around 70 - 90% of our overall Plastic Waste will typically be made up of all of the stuff that is not being collected for Recycling then - so it must surely only be just 80% of around 10 - 30% of our general Plastic Waste that is?


message 912: by Lez (last edited May 20, 2018 06:46AM) (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Falkirk is one of the better councils for recycling
We have:
Food waste, weekly
Black box fortnightly: glass bottles and jars, batteries, small electricals such as kettles and irons. Textiles - clothes, shoes, bedding, bags.
Blue bin recycling, fortnightly : all paper, catalogues, brochures, card, packaging, foil and aluminium trays, aerosols, food and drink cans, cartons incl. Tetrapack, plastic trays and containers, plastic bottles and caps.
Garden waste - brown bin fortnightly
Everything else - Green bin 4-weekly
There’s also a special medical waste collection and ‘Absorbent Hygiene Products’ for nappies etc.


message 913: by Helen The Melon (last edited May 20, 2018 06:29AM) (new)

Helen The Melon | 3422 comments Crikey, Lez, that is good. Our council must be one of the worst (but they do have a huge area to cover). Our kerbside recycling is only for paper, card, some plastics, tins & cans. Glass we have to take to a collection point ourselves.


message 914: by Helen The Melon (new)

Helen The Melon | 3422 comments Who knew "bin chat" would be moderately interesting eh?


message 915: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Yep! ... I'm just perched on my Pedal Bin in sheer anticipation of more of these rubbish posts! - LOL!!! ;o>


message 916: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Helen The Melon wrote: "Who knew "bin chat" would be moderately interesting eh?"

🤓
Harrogate, where my sister is, doesn’t even have wheelie bins! They have a black box for paper and glass and an ordinary old-style metal bin with black plastic bags. The householder has to put the bag outside where the foxes can get at them. Disgusting.
Everything else has to be taken down to Morrisons’ carpark. Don’t know how the old and infirm are supposed to manage.


message 917: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments We used have all of those huge Skip Bins in virtually every large Car Park, Lez Lee, but they were nearly always impossible to use because they were continually left full to overflowing?

After a couple of years they all started to disappear - and there are only just a few left around the entire borough of Stockport now.


message 918: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments actually, there's a huge skip in the centre of ayr that is full of the foulest toxic waste and all manner of crap - it's called somerset park! :)


message 919: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments He's here all week, folks! - plus Matinees on Wednesdays and Sundays! ;o>


message 920: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments yer a tough room! :)


message 921: by P (new)

P Cobb | 580 comments Rubbish posts!

Guess we in Sandwell should count ourselves lucky, then. Free garden waste collections fortnightly, although large items have to be arranged specially. Currently, all recycling goes in same bin, so somebody then has to root around through it all. I know Brum City Council charge for garden collections, as do Sheffield.

The most unpleasant job must be the chap who walks along with his own wheely bin and empties the food waste and slops into it. He really must have no sense of smell!

Thank you for keeping the snailies thread going, Susie! And, yes, food shots, weather and bin chat all fine, so long as they entice response.


message 922: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments The good people of Ayr were seen congregating last night armed with pitchforks and torches before setting off in procession towards Glasgow.......!


message 923: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments ... Rumour has it that a certain Kilt-Twirler of Kilmarnock is in for quite a night!!! ;oO


message 924: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments LOL! Where can I get tickets?


message 925: by suzysunshine7 (last edited May 21, 2018 12:14PM) (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments I believe it's a free event? - the Tech Roast - just bring your own Beer! ;o>

Recycling Bins for both Glasses and Tins will be provided!!!


message 926: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments P wrote: "Thank you for keeping the snailies thread going, Susie! And, yes, food shots, weather and bin chat all fine, so long as they entice response"

I've extended the Thread title to hopefully encourage all of our Forum folk to come in and to post on here more. I don't really want to set up any more 'Chat' Threads - just in case they might divert Posts and Posters away from using this lovely friendly one that we already have running ;o>
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\\@ ; ; ; ; ; ; ;~


message 927: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments Something of a chicken and egg for tech. Listening to Forward Jah by the Abyssinians today and it struck me how closely in lyric and style it was to Jose Feliciano's Come down Jesus from What The Spirit Needs released in 1971. Though Forward Jah doesn't appear until about a decade later the similarities to me are to unmistakable to be just coincidental. I'm not complaining as the Abyssinians definitely have the edge on this one.


message 928: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments in general, martin, reggae players, singers, producers, etc, borrowed (ok, stole) bits and bobs and even whole songs from a huge number of unlikely (and likely) places, threw it all in a big 'influence pot' until the unique sound of reggae came into being, as i would say! the abyssinians (special outfit), themselves spawned a whole heap of copyists (without much chance of royalties) with 'satta massaganna'!


message 929: by Craig White (last edited May 21, 2018 11:08PM) (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments "procession towards Glasgow"

good! then they won't be troubling me any! :)

so when the great unwashed are stumbling zombie fashion up the by-pass, we can drop things that would confuse and frighten them from the foot bridges! things like books, soap, deodorant, etc! and if it was dark we could engender terrifying panic in them by shining a torch on them! :)


message 930: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22149 comments Tech, every time you enlighten us about the joys of Ayrshire, I'm put in mind of Glen Daly's "Scotland The Brave":

Land o' the purple heather
Land o' the dirty weather
Land where the midgies gaither
Scotland the brave

Land that has known no dangers
Land that is full o' strangers
Land o' the Celts and Rangers
Scotland the brave

Land o' the diesel trains
Big fat maws and dirty weans
Land o' the Band Of Hopes
It's now the land o' the betting shops

Land where we don't like swankies
Land where we don't use hankies
Land where the lassies love the Yankees
Scotland the brave

Land o' the hills and valleys
Jewish folk and wealthy Tallies
Connollys and McAnallys
Scotland the brave

Land that is famed for thinkers
Hindus, Pakistanis, tinkers
Land full o' VP drinkers
Scotland the brave

Landsmen from County Down, Donegal and Dublin Town
Teddy boys in drainpipe troosers
Kicking up a row in all the boozers

But, though yer spirit's flagging
Even though yer knees are sagging
We've got something worth the braaaaagggging
(Harry Secombe!)
Scotland the brave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9m4H...


message 931: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments ha ha, glen daly, by the beard o' rob roy, haven't thought of the immortal ('cept he's deid!) glen daly for centuries! cheers!
btw, who wrote the 'amended' lyrics? morrissey? :)


message 932: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22149 comments Tech wrote: "ha ha, glen daly, by the beard o' rob roy, haven't thought of the immortal ('cept he's deid!) glen daly for centuries! cheers!
btw, who wrote the 'amended' lyrics? morrissey? :)"


I was brought up on Glen Daly on vinyl. Still trot him out from time to time on CD:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Legends-Scot...

I think the Corries also did a version along the same lines, slightly different lyrics.


message 933: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments HA HA HA ... love it!!! ;o>


message 934: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments It'll soon be Summer! - Do you want Cream with that? ;o> ...




message 935: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments whit dae ye mean, lassie, oor summer's due to end in the middle o' next week! iit'll soon be time tae think aboot the frost, an' pitting doon some salt! oops! :)


message 936: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Sarky Scottish Spoilsport !

Hee, Hee, Hee!!! ;o>


message 937: by [deleted user] (new)

SUN!! WE'VE GOT SUN!!

Bring something for the barbecue - charcoal would be a start :)


message 938: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments I keep wondering? ... did the Pureed Pineapple Chicken work? ;o>


message 939: by [deleted user] (new)

suzysunshine7 wrote: "I keep wondering? ... did the Pureed Pineapple Chicken work? ;o>"

Sort of;
I couldn't really taste the pineapple but the chicken was lovely and moist :)


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suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments




message 941: by [deleted user] (new)

That was last time - this time is going to be so much bigger and better :)


message 942: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Oh-Ohhh!!! ;oO ...




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Every time we put out suet balls in a conventional feeder, the Jackdaws descend, hacking the balls apart until they can extract them from the feeder and then off they fly with a beak full of suet. This normally happens within half an hour of putting them out and the other birds are left to fight over the scraps dropped on the floor.
I've been trying to find an alternative feeder so that the other birds can have a chance but can only find squirrel-proof feeders, which I don't think would defeat the Jackdaws.
Can anybody recommend something suitable?


message 945: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Grizzlygrump wrote: "Every time we put out suet balls in a conventional feeder, the Jackdaws descend, hacking the balls apart until they can extract them from the feeder and then off they fly with a beak full of suet. ..."

I only have 3 or 4 jackdaws but they don’t seem to be able to hang on to the feeders which are just the normal everyday ones. I sometimes put suet balls on the ground for the blackbirds and robins and the jackdaws seem satisfied with them. I’m a bit wary of attracting rats though so don’t do it very often and make sure there’s nothing left in the evening.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could choose which birdies we’d allow in the garden?
😃


message 946: by [deleted user] (new)

suzysunshine7 wrote: "I found this? ;o> ...

https://ww2.rspb.org.uk/community/wil..."


Had a look at that, and I reckon it might be worth giving it a go, even if only to thwart them for a while so thanks for that :)


message 947: by [deleted user] (new)

Lez;

With the exception of a pair of Chaffinches, a Robin (usually heard, rarely seen) and a Blue Tit, we don't just have three or four of any type of bird in our garden - we have whole flocks; Sparrows, Dunnocks, Blackbirds, Pigeons, Collared Doves, Starlings and, of course, the Jackdaws - our garden gets very busy at feeding time :)
The Jackdaws are a right bunch of smart-alecs - the suet feeder was at first hung from a nail on the eaves of the shed. They soon worked out how to lift it off the nail to drop it on the floor, where they could attack the suet balls.
Then it was hung from a bracket on the fence (the kind normally used for hanging baskets), but too close to the washing line. They would line up on the washing line, swinging around like a tightrope walker putting on a show and reach down to the feeder (very funny - wish I could have recorded it!).
Now that it hangs on a bracket further away from the washing line, they have learnt to swoop in and land straight onto the side of the feeder, which is actually quite impressive to watch :)

I haven't got a problem with whatever birds come into the garden, I just want to make sure that they all get a fair crack at the food we put out for them.


message 948: by suzysunshine7 (last edited May 27, 2018 04:52AM) (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments It's more Pigeons that we tend to have problems with here and so my Mum has decided to try it out as well.

We still can't shift one of them from soaking it's feathered butt in the Birdbath for hours at time making it into their own personal and private Spa though!

I have to send Mitzi racing down the Garden to see it off at least 3 times a day at the moment - and it waits until the very last minute before ungraciously getting up, and invariably also cwapping in it too as a parting gesture, before it finally flies off!

Change the Water ... look out ten minutes later? - and it's back again!!! ;oO


message 949: by [deleted user] (new)

We've only had a bird bath for about three weeks now, which was bought after we noticed the Sparrows using a tealight holder on the patio table, which was full of water as a bath and for drinking.
The birds are slowly getting used to it, with the Sparrows having a splash around and the other day I noticed a Blackbird in there doing her best to stamp all of the water out of the bath - in and out she was, like a child jumping in puddles :)


message 950: by [deleted user] (new)

I've been over on Amazon and ordered a hanging basket. Looking at the reviews for it, the first two said that they'd been bought to keep larger birds off feeders :)


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