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message 6951: by Brass Neck (last edited Nov 15, 2020 03:01AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments "my father is both 1 & 2" - there might be an excusable level of fatalism amongst the elderly (not like it's an unimaginably far off prospect for some of us, eh Tech?). They may not have many more years left and to spend that time cooped up alone, without seeing family or friends if you're lucky enough to still have them around, maybe in pain with life-limiting conditions is difficult enough without thinking these may be your final days? Some however are just entitled twats to whom rules and guidelines are merely opportunities to thumb their individualistic noses!!!

My 80+ year old parents' life has just collapsed anyway with dad's dementia and mum's general mobility issues which means they can't go anywhere so the only people they see are the carers who come in for an hour each evening to microwave some ready meal with a few veg and wash the tiny number of pots and the cleaners once a week. They just aren't in a position to break any rules but they're on borrowed time (limited sympathy since both were heavy smokers and drinkers) and to think that this is how it might end is desperate.

Most of us have the reasonable expectation that there will come a time after this shitshow when some semblance of (new) normality will be possible, the very elderly and frail may not hold such hopes and expectations.


message 6952: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22152 comments Fatalism, while understandable, is still no excuse in my book Brass. You are still going to cause problems for health professionals, your carers and your family. Just because you are old does not absolve you from the distress caused by not being able to care for you or visit you or maybe even attend your funeral should you succumb to Covid.

Melbourne is a city of nearly 5 million people. For the last 4 months we have endured one of the hardest lockdowns anywhere in the world. We are only just coming out of it - and very slowly. Everyone who can work from home has been doing just that since March. It has not been easy but the result has been worth it. 16 consecutive double donut days; i.e. no new cases and no deaths. No mystery cases and only 3 people in hospital receiving treatment. It has only been achieved by the willingness of people to comply and to do the right thing by the community.


message 6953: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments fatalism? no really! he doesn't see why he should comply - 'if i get it i get it' is his maxim, says he doesn't care who he might take with him. he goes to the houses of others as he pleases, has people in his house as he pleases - due to this and other issues (choosing to listen to others (who are wrong) over our advice, etc etc), we can't have him in our bubble, and just drop his shopping in once a week (during which he moans that we don't stay longer), there's no winning, so i stopped stressing over it - f*** it, he can do what the f*** he likes, i'm keeping mine and me safe! sad? mibbe. do i care? not any longer!


message 6954: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1370 comments Anyone who understands the pain of losing someone we love would follow the rules, whatever the "inconvenience", unless they really didn't care at all about others.


message 6955: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments you would think that, especially having lost my mum this year (not covid), but hey ho, there you go! she would have been furious!


message 6956: by Collette (new)

Collette | 6187 comments Tech XXIII wrote: "fatalism? no really! he doesn't see why he should comply - 'if i get it i get it' is his maxim, says he doesn't care who he might take with him. he goes to the houses of others as he pleases, has p..."

"If I get it, I get it". My sister comes our with that one all the time. She's 53. Pity she doesn't act like it though. 🙄


message 6957: by Brass Neck (last edited Nov 20, 2020 07:19AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments But she's not the golden one so expectations must be lowered whereas you...........

"She's 53" - Your mum had you in quick succession then?


message 6958: by Collette (last edited Nov 20, 2020 07:30AM) (new)

Collette | 6187 comments Exactly, ha ha. She's too busy necking her cider and slagging the rest of us off. Are you trying to be funny, Mr B? 😬 I'm 46 and our Tracy's 51. D's late Mum though...she had 9 of them. 6 boys and 3 girls.


message 6959: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments "She's too busy necking her cider and slagging the rest of us off" - she sounds like a fun gal with her heart in the right place!


message 6960: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Only just a few admissions and some rather vague promises so far and sadly all coming a little too late in the day now for quite a few ... but this could possibly prove to be some good news at last for disabled and vulnerable people in the UK? ;o> ...

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com...


message 6961: by suzysunshine7 (last edited Nov 28, 2020 04:22PM) (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments ... ! ... ? ... ! ...






message 6962: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Needing inspiration for Christmas Gift ideas? ;o> ...




message 6963: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 6492 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "Needing inspiration for Christmas Gift ideas? ;o> ...

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Just wonderin' like.....if the cloak is invisible..how does the checkout operator scan it in at the tills?!

Actually..come to think of it...how would a customer know they've managed to pick one up from the shelf anyway?!

8-S


message 6964: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Ohhh Wow!!! ... simply in awe and lost for words! ... just WoW!!! ;o> ...

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMailVid...




message 6965: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Well, whaddaya know? ... December is with us once more! ;o> ...




message 6966: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments "if the cloak is invisible..."

....after you've completed a substantial shopping, you pick one of these up, open it, surround yourself and your shopping with it, then quite simply walk out the shop without paying. when the security alarm goes off, the lazy disinterested individual in charge of security will think "oh globbits, it's been another of those mystery shoppers!", and go back to sleep. give it a couple of beats before disrobing at your car - don't want to frighten anyone!


message 6967: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1370 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "Ohhh Wow!!! ... simply in awe and lost for words! ... just WoW!!! ;o> ...

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMailVid...

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Oooh! :o)


message 6968: by SussexWelsh (new)

SussexWelsh | 7449 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "Ohhh Wow!!! ... simply in awe and lost for words! ... just WoW!!! ;o> ...

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMailVid...

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Lovely. Hopefully no lasting damage done. :-)


message 6969: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Tech XXIII wrote: ""if the cloak is invisible..."

....after you've completed a substantial shopping, you pick one of these up, open it, surround yourself and your shopping with it, then quite simply walk out the sho..."


Just think of all of those £s you could be saving in Poundland, tech! ;oO


message 6970: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Apparently, according to Bird Experts, who have rescued and also put Rings onto Kingfishers when monitoring their populations in some areas they can often go into a form of shock when handled, a state that can temporarily take them over and mimic playing dead, until they come to and regain their bearings again.

The Kingfisher only flew into the Kitchen and then tried to get out again by flapping against the Window - it didn't actually hit anything, like a Window at high speed, or suffer any injuries. I think it probably panicked and went into shock ... and then just decided to continue to lie still and hope for the best! ;o>

Luckily it was rescued by the incredibly calm and caring Charlotte Lawrie ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...


message 6971: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments "Luckily it was rescued by the incredibly calm and caring Charlotte Lawrie ..."

....because if it had landed here between a rock (bob z.) and a hard place (sheet of puff pastry)...........?


message 6972: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Bob brings Birds in so mrs tech can make him some Pies with them?!!

He certainly has high hopes and great expectations, doesn't he?!! ;o>


message 6973: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments ..."crank up the oven, Ma! ... I brung you a Bird!"


message 6974: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments eh, regarding your blatantly sexist comment, suzy, mibbe meester tech, he make the bird pie! 🐱‍👤


message 6975: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Ohhh Chef! - I sincerely apologise ... x ;o>

And then say ... "what's ya problem, Dad?! - get plucking and gutting!"


message 6976: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Tomorrow's Tea? ...

Miceballs with Rat-atouille! ;oO


message 6977: by Brass Neck (last edited Dec 02, 2020 08:32AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "Tomorrow's Tea? ...

Miceballs with Rat-atouille! ;oO"


Have you seen the size of miceballs? You'd have to castrate thousands for a decent meal.

A rat or two, eee, now you're talking.


message 6978: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments New signs put up all around Central Manchester overnight ...




message 6979: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments Boris is giving all of us a no-tier, hug'n'kill yer gramps actual Xmas? It'll all end in tiers.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1...


message 6980: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Typical Govt stupidity ... they announce that Care Home Visits will now be permitted but haven't even issued the Rapid Covid-19 Test Kits yet! ;oO

Care Homes have been struggling ever since to cope with their Phones constantly ringing and also with Resident's families just turning up thinking that they will finally be able to come in and see their loved one ;o<

And I understand that the Rapid Tests aren't considered to be all that reliable either?!


message 6981: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22152 comments More on wildlife. Meet Reg.

'Reg' the fur seal is back on the Northern Beaches!

ORRCA has been monitoring the Australian fur seal for two months, and in the last few weeks he’s been visiting Sydney and the Central Coast.

The seal spent the night at Manly Beach and is still there resting today. He's been kept safe and calm by ORRCA members, Northern Beaches Council and local police.

⚠ PLEASE NOTE: The seal is a wild animal and people must stay at least 40 metres away. Do not feed or disturb 'Reg'.

"He’s a male bull seal and if he gets upset he could really do some damage," said Jools Farrell from ORRCA.

"They have sharp teeth and they do bite."

Last week, an off-leash dog nipped at 'Reg' at Long Reef on the Northern Beaches but thankfully the seal was unharmed.

Conservationists are hoping the seal continues his migration south to the Great Australia Bight or Macquarie Island.

"We hope he doesn't decide to haul out on Bondi Beach, he’s been picking some popular beaches," Ms Farrell said.

"People need to realise he’s a wild animal, respect him and stay 40 metres away."

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=380...


message 6982: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Awww ;o>

I can't get any Sound on that Link so I don't know how noisy it is there but there does seem to be lots of people congregating and calling out and little kids chanting ... and there is Reg ... blissfully dozing away on the Sand and having some lovely Dreams too if that 'smile' on his face is anything to go by! ;o>


message 6983: by Isabella (last edited Dec 02, 2020 03:04PM) (new)

Isabella | 1370 comments Val wrote: "More on wildlife. Meet Reg.

'Reg' the fur seal is back on the Northern Beaches!

ORRCA has been monitoring the Australian fur seal for two months, and in the last few weeks he’s been visiting Syd..."


Many years ago, when video cameras were fairly new, we had the wonderful chance to visit Kangaroo Island in Oz. We were on a guided tour with a group, two of whom had video cameras. One guy in particular was hell bent on getting his trip on film. He had to be restrained from going up to the sea lions on the beach who were just entering the mating season and pretty dangerous (the males are big and also aggressive when there are females about) and the poor guide nearly had heart failure when a snake decided to curl up in the sun in the middle of the trail. Camera man (who was French and kept trying the 'no English' card) was practically nose to nose with the snake which was poisonous, though I can't remember the kind.

A few of us spoke enough French to call his bluff and the ranger called in to get the snake moved to a part of the island not much frequented.

It sums up for me just how arrogant some people can be in their dealings with wildlife. It's their planet, too.


message 6984: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments We've just reserved a Doberman puppy which should be ready sometime in March. All we need now is for its Mum to produce one the right colour and sex!


message 6985: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22152 comments Isabella wrote: "Many years ago, when video cameras were fairly new, we had the wonderful chance to visit Kangaroo Island in Oz. We were on a guided tour with a group, two of whom had video cameras. One guy in particular was hell bent on getting his trip on film. He had to be restrained from going up to the sea lions on the beach who were just entering the mating season and pretty dangerous. ..."

I'm with you there Isabella. Some people just don't realise how lucky they are to be able to experience seeing wildlife in its natural habitat. Why they feel the need to disturb the animals is beyond me.

I was watching a TV show tonight which featured Kangaroo Island and its ongoing recovery from last year's bushfires.


message 6986: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22152 comments Derek wrote: "We've just reserved a Doberman puppy which should be ready sometime in March. All we need now is for its Mum to produce one the right colour and sex!"

Great news Derek! Are colour and sex deal-breakers for you?


message 6987: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments Val wrote: "Derek wrote: "We've just reserved a Doberman puppy which should be ready sometime in March. All we need now is for its Mum to produce one the right colour and sex!"

Great news Derek! Are colour an..."


Yes Val, it has to be brown and tan and male.


message 6988: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22152 comments Are the parents likely to produce brown and tan pups? And are you first cab off the rank for a male or are you in a queue?


message 6989: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments Val wrote: "Are the parents likely to produce brown and tan pups? And are you first cab off the rank for a male or are you in a queue?"

Val, yes they are although there are usually more black and tans than brown and tans. Since they only announced this morning that the pregnancy was confirmed then yes we probably are first in line. We've been talking to the owners since August, not long after we lost Ríg, so if the right puppy turns up we should be OK.

We're also on the list for another mating at a different kennels but that hasn't happened yet, so that's our fallback.


message 6990: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Fingers crossed everything goes well for you, Derek ... x ;o>


message 6991: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Hope it works out for you Derek. It'll be sort of bitter-sweet if it looks like lovely Rig,


message 6992: by Craig White (last edited Dec 03, 2020 08:52AM) (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments yeah, doberman brown boy bingo! hope you get your boy.

we were 2nd on a litter list for a brown beardie girl, and lux was the only girl in the litter (and brown). the top of the list came to collect her, from the midlands i remember, instantly declared her markings to be wrong, and promptly left puppyless, leaving us with the reject. yay! she'll be 9 on tuesday.


message 6993: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments We personally prefer to seek out Heinz 57 varieties over Pedigrees.

We always ask if there are any small to medium little hairy woofer pups, go to take a look, and then see which ones we just feel we have an instant Eye to Eye and Heart to Heart connection with ;o>


message 6994: by Craig White (new)

Craig White | 6727 comments i also remember way back, when we went to choose kes (border collie) from two brown/red girls in the litter. after taking an age to make our minds up i suddenly pointed and said 'that one!'. mrs tech asked why i was so sure which one to pick, to which i replied 'well, she'd just had a shite, so it'll be longer before she needs another one!'


message 6995: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "Fingers crossed everything goes well for you, Derek ... x ;o>"

Thanks Suzy


message 6996: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments Lez wrote: "Hope it works out for you Derek. It'll be sort of bitter-sweet if it looks like lovely Rig,"

Thanks Lez, well he will be a Doberman so he won't look much different. We just hope his temperament will be as good as Rig's was.


message 6997: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments Tech XXIII wrote: "yeah, doberman brown boy bingo! hope you get your boy.

we were 2nd on a litter list for a brown beardie girl, and lux was the only girl in the litter (and brown). the top of the list came to colle..."


Thanks tech.


message 6998: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "We personally prefer to seek out Heinz 57 varieties over Pedigrees.

We always ask if there are any small to medium little hairy woofer pups, go to take a look, and then see which ones we just feel..."


Once you've owned a Doberman you can never go back to another breed:-)


message 6999: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Derek wrote: "Once you've owned a Doberman you can never go back to another breed:-)"

;o>


message 7000: by Anita (last edited Dec 03, 2020 02:33PM) (new)

Anita Bailey | 3842 comments Good,luck with the pup Derek ,I hope there are several Brown and tan Dogs,I'm off to google that colour ,I've only seen Black and Tan.We got Treacle by first someone dumping her at Christmas and then someone else saying they would have her and then not coming in to collect her .Dobermans are quite a rare breed around here ,I've never actually seen anyone with one.you should try and catch the Columbo episode with the Dobermans Laurel and Hardy.


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