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message 1: by Rob, Mayor of Ghost Town (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Part 5

Please keep all discussion and speculation to the events of the chapters of Part 5.

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Please do not discuss events from later books. Referring back to events from a previous section/book is fine.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
So the brother of the 4th order following around Lyrna was the one who tried to kill Vaelin earlier in the book. He mentions encountering him twice though. I don't recall the other time.

And I called it on Lyrna getting healed. I should have guessed it would be weaver. We learned in the first book that he can heal scars.

So was that the priest who abused Riva that tried to kill her?

Overall I really loved this one too. Despite it being very different from the first in structure.


Scott (thekeeblertree) | 1049 comments Loved it too, just finished. And, yeah, from the description I think the guy who tried to kill Lyrna was Reva's priest.

I remember thinking when part 5 started "Weaver hasn't used his rope yet, what gives?" And then there he is in the right place and the right time.

So, so good. Absolutely cannot wait for the next installment to come out. So many great story lines to work with. Vaelin losing his blood song, possible love triangle with Dahrena, him and Lyrna, what happens when everyone learns Frentis killed the king, will Caenis continue being a pouty baby, how Lyrna and Reva work together (or not).


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
The Frentis reveal is the part I look forward to the most.

And we still don't know what was said between Vaelin and the aspect of the 7th order.


Scott (thekeeblertree) | 1049 comments Very interested in that convo as well.

Think we'll get any other character views in the next one like Caenis or Nortah? Would dig that, for sure. Just hope he doesn't over extend himself trying to tackle too many


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
I think 4 (not counting the chronicler's interludes) is a good number of POVs. If he's really going to finish things in 3 books, any more would be too much.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Kaleb wrote: "Now we play the waiting game. I hate that game though!"

Yeah, but often times it makes release day that much sweeter. What seems to have happened to me in the last few years is I numb some of the pain from waiting by reading entirely too many series such that there always seems to be a new book in a series I enjoy coming out every few months or so.


Jake m (atticus55) | 76 comments I found it weird how Sharin was barely even mentioned. I didn't really mind though.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
I assume we'll see her in the third book along with the mason. But maybe not.

Seems like Vaelin has enough love interests though.


Scott (thekeeblertree) | 1049 comments Rob wrote: "I think 4 (not counting the chronicler's interludes) is a good number of POVs. If he's really going to finish things in 3 books, any more would be too much."

True ... so is it confirmed that it will be a trilogy? Wonder how successful it's been so far and if that will influence whether or not he extends the series.

I never really understood the love interest with Sherin. Always thought Lyrna was the better match and more intriguing character. But I guess that's kinda how love is, you don't really understand it. I'd have to agree that we'll see her at some point in the third book.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
I haven't seen anything definitive about it being a trilogy. I did see somewhere (his wiki page maybe?) that he signed a 3 book deal.


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Sky Corbelli | 288 comments Just finished it, ended up enjoying it quite a bit more once I got past part 1.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Sky wrote: "Just finished it, ended up enjoying it quite a bit more once I got past part 1."

I could tell from all your comments along the way! ^_^


David Sven (gorro) | 316 comments Haven't had a lot of time to comment over the past week. I missed that Lyrna was attacked by Reva's priest.

One thing I do like is that the whole of Verniers account while he's accosted is about the later part of the siege. So we get the enemy's POV on events that only happen towards the end of the book before they merge.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
So what's the final verdict on the book David?


David Sven (gorro) | 316 comments Rob wrote: "So what's the final verdict on the book David?"

I can't say without pictures :) But it will be 5 stars once I get to the review.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
You and your pictures..


David Sven (gorro) | 316 comments Ha ha! There'll be no pictures this time.


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Sky Corbelli | 288 comments Was anyone else bothered by all the times arrows were "notched" rather than "nocked?"

I'm like 80% sure that nocking an arrow means you've loaded it, and notching an arrow means you've carved a little groove into its surface. Not that it took much away from the book, just something that gave me pause...


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Sky | 1291 comments The nock is a notch. How could you possible confuse that? :)

From wikipedia:

Nocks[edit]

The nock is a notch in the rearmost end of the arrow. It serves to keep the arrow in place on the string as the bow is being drawn. Nocks may be simple slots cut in the back of the arrow, or separate pieces made from wood, plastic, or horn that are then attached to the end of the arrow.[16] Modern nocks, and traditional Turkish nocks, are often constructed so as to curve around the string or even pinch it slightly, so that the arrow is unlikely to slip off.[17] In English it is common to say "nock an arrow" or "notch an arrow," when one readies a shot.


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Sky Corbelli | 288 comments Yes, it's a complete nitpick... but I once had an editor tell me that while all nocks may be notches, not all notches are nocks, so use the correct word.

There may be an outside chance that I'm just bitter that I paid for that advice, and must therefore tear down anything that contradicts it.


Conor | 57 comments Rob wrote: "So the brother of the 4th order following around Lyrna was the one who tried to kill Vaelin earlier in the book. He mentions encountering him twice though. I don't recall the other time.

And I cal..."


I was wondering pretty much the whole book where we had seen that 4th order guy before but I couldn't be bothered to post a question. I think it was revealed here that he was the guy who was imprisoning Sherin. After he hit her Vaelin proceeded to rearrange his face :D

Weaver can heal scars? It's been a while since I read book 1 and I don't think his power was mentioned here. I'm not sure how I feel about that. On one hand it's pretty convenient that Lyrna just immediately goes back to being the 'beautiful princess'. On the other hhand I like Lyrna and I want her to be happy.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Weaver healed scars of the brother of the sixth order who fled in the first book. His name starts with a N I think.


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Scott (scott18044) | 9 comments Rob wrote: "Weaver healed scars of the brother of the sixth order who fled in the first book. His name starts with a N I think."

Nortah? Did he heal Vaelin too, in the Ruined City after the encounter with Sella's cat?


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Yeah him. And maybe on the healing Vaelin part.


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Sky | 1291 comments Alright I totally missed that the weaver healed lyrna. I was wondering if i was too stoned and would retain what i was reading. now i see i need to go re-read at least the last 2 chapters.


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Sky | 1291 comments OK, it makes more sense now. I totally missed that the guy with the rope was the Weaver. I think I thought this person was doing something bad to Lyrna, not healing her.

So are we sure Vaelin's blood song is gone, and just not temporarily diminished from overusing it while storming Alltor? It's gone when he is in the room with Eleverah, but Eleverah comments that the song doesn't work there. It's unclear if he is able to use it when the General's wife is being questioned. He shows some pain from the effort, but not sure if it is pain from successfully or unsuccessfully trying to use it.

So the 2 zealots that attacked Lyrna included the Priest that trained Reva?

Any idea when book 3 comes out


Tammy I missed the weaver part as well and had to go back and re-read the sections about him. I assumed as you did Sky that something bad happened to Lyrna and would be happy if she is in tact for the next book.


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Lori | 63 comments I recently finished and because I did not reread BS I missed some things from. Most I've recalled from reading various discussions but who is Arentes, I've read he's the Black Arrow from BS, but can't remember that AT ALL.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
If I recall, the black arrow was thought to be the leader of religious zealotszealots in the woods. Vaelin and his brothers were sent in to stop them, and after an encounter the black arrow is assumed dead.


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Lori | 63 comments Ah thank you!


Christopher | 1 comments Hey,

Sorry to be late to the party. I'm reading/listening to TL again before QoF and I don't remember what happened to Davoka. Does anyone remember?


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
I'm bad with names. Can you refresh my memory as to which character that is?


Robyn | 150 comments I think Davoka's fate is left somewhat unclear at the end of the book, or at least, I remember wondering, but what about Davoka? She's the woman that leads Princess Lyrna to the Lornak and becomes her protector, Rob, in case you have a better memory than I for what happens.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Oh, her. Hmm, no I don't recall what's going on with her by the end of this book either. Sorry.


Suzanne | 1582 comments If I remember correctly, she is with Fenris. As the book closed, Fenris and his group are still travelling - I'm sure their reunion with the others will happen this summer.


Slick | 40 comments Hehe Frentis still getting stalked by his lady love?


Robyn | 150 comments That's what I remember as well, Suzanne - but for some reason I thought something bad happened to Frentis et al at the very end......but probably not!


Ashley | 28 comments Apparently there is an appendix with all the characters names and relations at the end. That would have been helpful had I known it existed while listening/reading.


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